To be utterly disgusted by the woman cutting down yellow ribbons commemorating the October 7th victims in Muswell Hill yesterday morning

[AngeloMysterioso]

When Jewish people are being attacked and murdered on their way to synagogue on Yom Kippur

When you literally can’t move or look in any direction without Palestine Palestine Palestine in our faces

On the eve of the anniversary of the worst atrocity committed against Jewish people since the Holocaust, a small, unobtrusive memorial for the victims of that unthinkable, barbaric attack was destroyed yesterday by a despicable woman who turned up with scissors and cut the ribbons down, one by one.

Ribbons for women and girls who were raped and murdered.
Ribbons for babies ripped from their parents’ arms and slaughtered.
Ribbons for men beaten to death.
Ribbons for the hostages still suffering every moment.

And this disgusting individual took it upon herself to come along with a pair of scissors and cut each one away. Her excuse? They “condone genocide”.

Let’s not pretend for a moment that that was her true motivation. It was a revolting demonstration of the antisemitism that has become so shamefully rife in this country that it sickens me.

This woman needs to be named and shamed for the loathsome person she is.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/10/07/woman-filmed-cutting-ribbons-commemorating-israeli-hostages/

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/met-police-woman-ribbons-israel-hostages-london-manchester-synagogue-b1251594.html

https://www.lbc.co.uk/article/woman-filmed-cutting-down-ribbons-commemorating-israeli-hostages-in-north-london-5HjdF2y2/

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15167737/amp/woman-cuts-yellow-ribbons-israeli-hostages-london.html

https://inews.co.uk/news/anger-woman-filmed-cutting-down-ribbons-london-memorial-israeli-hostages-3961369

@AzurePanda I’m sure you are aware of where much of the Koch fortune comes from.

So what holy lands is it you think the Palestinians have more right to than the Israelis? Clearly it's not Jerusalem, so what other holy lands are you so concerned about?

@Thegreyhound I’m well aware of the antecedents of the Koch fortune and also are of the fact that twice they have declined to directly fund the Trump election campaigns.

Anyone familiar with Spike understands they are quite obviously not captured by either right or left wing puppet masters. . If they are to be categorised as anything it’s libertarian.

I’m not actually sure it even matters about who stole what from who. Countries have and always will stolen land from other people. Land is finite and people keep moving around. The Americans stole land from the native population and then had to fight the British for it. They roped France in too. And then all sorts of pushing back and forth with Mexico. And on and on. So even ‘if’ the original Israeli settlers did take land from someone, or the Palestinians took it first, or the Ottoman Empire or whatever… does that matter? Countries have been built on the ability to take and defend land since the beginning of property ownership as a concept. It’s not like the borders between countries are fixed based on some sort of impartial party or natural barriers or anything.

I am reading the comments on insta on the video from the march in my city yesterday and its horrifying. To a person they all insist the fight won’t be over until Israel ceases to exist. The argument is that all the Jews can ‘go back’ to wherever their family lived in 1948. I don’t even know what to do with that concept or how one would enact it. Besides which, Israel will not agree to cease to exist so the fight can never be over. It’s an impossible situation for everyone with the citizens of Gaza and Israel paying the endless price.

Agree with this

I don't agree with the removal of the ribbons, that is awful and so disrespectful to the many victims. Commemorating those victims and calling for the release of the hostages is not the same as supporting the horrors currently happening in Gaza- the ribbons are not political symbols they are memorials and commemorating Jewish victims does not automatically mean a disregard for the victims in the Gaza strip. It is interesting that the women in question is Jewish herself.

No. This war has been rumbling on for nearly eight decades. The last two decades thanks to Hamas refusing to engage in any kind of peace process.

You should probably learn a bit more about the actual history of the region. Jewish people living there have been subject to what we'd now call terrorist attacks, going back hundreds of years:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1834_looting_of_Safed

"Accounts of the month-long event tell of large-scale looting,[6] as well as killing and raping of Jews and the destruction of homes and synagogues by Druze and Muslims"

Also:
"Safed had long been inhabited by Musta'arabi Jews. It became a kabbalistic centre from the 1540s onwards when students attracted by the teachings of sages such as Moses ben Jacob Cordovero settled there"

Tell me again how Israelis are settlers on stolen land.

They don’t need to directly fund the Trump campaign because they have funded every other right wing astroturf campaign in the states since the 70s with their ill gotten Nazi money.
And if you think the interest in Spiked is ‘free speech’ then that is naive in the extreme. In addition, if you think that Spiked is neither left nor right then I have no idea where your personal Overton window is set.
Besides anything else at all the Koch empire’s destruction of the natural world shows they care more about dollars than humanity

I don't disagree with you. But what worries me is that extremist Islamic / far left coalition is creating terrorists who will attack the UK in the future, along with many more terrorist supporters.

We are already seeing this with either knowing or unknowing protesters supporting Palestine Action, an organisation that attacked RAF aircraft and attacked a female police officer with a sledgehammer, hospitalising her.

Whilst some may view the Pro Palestinian protest marches as peaceful protests, I personally see them as a recruitment drive for extreme Islamist and far left future terrorists and supporters.

Temples and mosques such as Al-Aqsa Mosque that the Israelis wanted sovereignty over in major peace deals. Many of which were the reason that the peace deals fell apart anyway. Not just do with Jerusalem within alone. And Jews going through that meant they the Israeli government had the right to do the same to Palestinians?

There is no far left terrorism in this country what on earth are you talking about? Where are you getting this nonsense from?

Both the woman cutting the ribbons and the woman who filmed her and reported it as a antisemitic hate crime were Jewish.

The yellow ribbon originally stood for support our troops.

Families with a member serving in the IDF would tie them outside their homes while they were serving in a conflict.

They were also used in prior conflicts to represent hostages when the hostages were IDF troops kidnapped by Hamas.

Only since 7 Oct have they been also used to represent civilian Israelis held hostage by Hamas.

The historic context of the yellow ribbons mean they have a dual context of supporting the war and wanting a loved one to return home safely.

I don’t think a Jewish woman can be guilty of an antisemitic hate crime. I think this incident shows how deeply divided Jewish society is on the conflict.

Temples and mosques such as Al-Aqsa Mosque that the Israelis wanted sovereignty over in major peace deals

Al-Aqsa is build over the First and Second Temples Jewish Temples - Judaism's holiest place. Islam already has the Mecca and Medina sites.

Just for clarity destroyed by the Romans! Not muslims or Palestinians.

Not according to Talmudic tradition and archaeology.

The Al-Aqsa mosque is built on top of the ruins of the Royal Stoa. During the 2nd Temple time, there was the temple and the palace of the Kings of Judea on Temple Mont. The Royal Stoa was a secular building built by King Herod and served as offices for court officials.

The 2nd temple, palace and all other structures were destroyed by the Romans in 70 AD after the siege of Jerusalem by Titus in the wake of the First Jewish Revolt.

Al-Aqsa mosque started as a small prayer house in 685 AD on what were then 600+ yr old ruins. It wasn’t built on top of the temple sites.

It was taken by Crusaders in 1099 who converted it to a palace until 1187 when Saladin reconquered the region.

If peace & coexistence is desired, a 3rd temple could be built where the 2nd temple was without touching a single piece of Al Aqsa mosque.

If peace & coexistence is desired, a 3rd temple could be built where the 2nd temple was without touching a single piece of Al Aqsa mosque

The Temple Mount is literally at the base of Al Alqsa, and it's the holiest site in Judaism. Your solution doesnt sound like any sort of compromise to me.

Right and where is the al-Aqsa mosque? Jerusalem, right? So maybe stop with your whole "I actually never mentioned Jerusalem" shtick when clearly you meant Jerusalem all along.

As I'm sure you know, the al-Aqsa mosque is built on the site of the former Jewish temples. On the holiest site in the world for Jewish people. Synagogues all over the world are built to face the Western Wall and the former temples so that we are facing our holiest site while praying. So who do you think was there first?

The fact that the terrorists and their supporters have named October 7th "the al-Aqsa flood" should really be a decent indicator even for someone as confused as you that they are not exactly planning on sharing Jerusalem with Israel 🤦🏻‍♀️ They're not peace-loving resistance fighters who just want peace, love and understanding, dude ☮️. They are murderous terrorists who want to eradicate the state of Israel. Are you really ok with that? "And Jews going through that meant they the Israeli government had the right to do the same to Palestinians?" - surely the opposite also applies. Only the biggest of hypocrites would say that but then think that Jerusalem should belong to a future Palestinian state. Only the biggest of hypocrites would also attempt to justify October 7th the way you did in an earlier comment.

The land is holy for all, do they have rights over religious sites and mosques for being in Jerusalem? Does that mean they get to take sovereign state over them? And not just the holy land but the continuous increase of non agreed settlements that they took over. I wouldn't trust the Israeli government with a slither of my finger over peace deals. I could easily call the Israeli government murderous people trying to eliminate innocent Palestinians the exact same way which they have been doing long before Oct 7. The war didn't start on Oct nor did it star with Hamas.

Who was it holy for first? Who was there first? I just want to clarify this before you inevitably start going on about indigenous people and colonisation 🙄

In your so obviously expert opinion, when did it all start?

Not on Oct 7 or when Hamas took over that's for sure. It may have been seen as holy land for the Jews first back in 1000BCE but that land belongs to many groups who been there for centuries including majority Arabs and Muslims from the 1800s onwards. It has many religious and historical ties for different people. I'd say the war started when Israel declared dependence and started expanding beyond borders, murdering and raping and forcing thousands of people out of their homes and expecting Palestinians to accept it.

Why is it relevant to you that the woman filming the ribbon cutter was also Jewish?

Where did you see that yellow ribbons signify support for the IDF?

The yellow ribbon originally stood and still stands for support our troops in the US, not Israel.
The yellow ribbon was originally used in Israel as a symbol of hope for the return of one soldier, Gilad Shalit, who was kidnapped in 2008 and held hostage for five years.

Since October 7th, 2023 the yellow ribbon has been used as a symbol to call for the release of the hostages.

They do not have a dual context, they do not signify support for the war and this is hugely insulting to the families of the hostages who've been very vocal in condemning the war and the Israeli government.

A Jewish person can of course be antisemitic and carry out an antisemitic hate crime.

Her pathetic, hateful publicity stunt doesn't show anything about Jewish society or how deeply divided it might be on the conflict as the only Jewish person she represents is herself. All it shows is that she's a massive tit.

So you're ok with the concept of land being taken over by other people and the indigenous population being forcibly removed, but only when it's Jewish people being forcibly removed?

Israel declared independence. Dependence is what the likes of UNRWA declared when they decided that every descendant of a Palestinian will be a refugee in perpetuity.

What borders do you think Israel should have stuck to?

I'm also curious to know when you think Jews should be allowed back in Gaza, and not just as hostages? There is an ancient synagogue there that your previous posts seem to indicate we should all have free access to? Or does free access to holy sites only apply to some people?

Did I say that? No. I said one doesn't have the right to commit genocide of thousands because of how they were treated from 1000 BCB. Not increasing the goalpost of stealing more land and illegal settlements would have been a start.