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To be utterly disgusted by the woman cutting down yellow ribbons commemorating the October 7th victims in Muswell Hill yesterday morning

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AngeloMysterioso · 07/10/2025 09:43

When Jewish people are being attacked and murdered on their way to synagogue on Yom Kippur

When you literally can’t move or look in any direction without Palestine Palestine Palestine in our faces

On the eve of the anniversary of the worst atrocity committed against Jewish people since the Holocaust, a small, unobtrusive memorial for the victims of that unthinkable, barbaric attack was destroyed yesterday by a despicable woman who turned up with scissors and cut the ribbons down, one by one.

Ribbons for women and girls who were raped and murdered.
Ribbons for babies ripped from their parents’ arms and slaughtered.
Ribbons for men beaten to death.
Ribbons for the hostages still suffering every moment.

And this disgusting individual took it upon herself to come along with a pair of scissors and cut each one away. Her excuse? They “condone genocide”.

Let’s not pretend for a moment that that was her true motivation. It was a revolting demonstration of the antisemitism that has become so shamefully rife in this country that it sickens me.

This woman needs to be named and shamed for the loathsome person she is.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/10/07/woman-filmed-cutting-ribbons-commemorating-israeli-hostages/

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/met-police-woman-ribbons-israel-hostages-london-manchester-synagogue-b1251594.html

https://www.lbc.co.uk/article/woman-filmed-cutting-down-ribbons-commemorating-israeli-hostages-in-north-london-5HjdF2y2/

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15167737/amp/woman-cuts-yellow-ribbons-israeli-hostages-london.html

https://inews.co.uk/news/anger-woman-filmed-cutting-down-ribbons-london-memorial-israeli-hostages-3961369

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Ayoopkid · 08/10/2025 08:24

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What are you taking about? The MENA ethnically cleansed all their Jews. Why you have a problem and obsession about their little country there? It is the Jews who have been hated and persecuted and slaughtered. Not Palestinians…!! Palestinians are less connected to it than even I am! Never mind it’s ok. I don’t need to argue because I know the truth.

Ayoopkid · 08/10/2025 08:27

confusedlady10 · 08/10/2025 00:28

To "colonise" yet all they've asked for is to be treated fairly after being treated as second rate citizens and forced out of their homes. Does that sound logical to you? Especially when you compare the population of both with the killings on both sides. You've written paragraphs completely regurgitating the same thing, ignoring the point. Wanting Palestinians to be treated fairly and equally, even well before Hamas came into power is all pro-Palestinians want. It doesn't mean pro-Hamas or wanting to get rid of Jews. That's the propaganda the media want to hide behind and promote when justifying eradicating a whole group of people after treating them like cattle for years and the same way as well before Oct 7. Oct 7 was atrocious but lets not act like it started only then.

It sounds actually like you describing what happened to the Jews. You have your facts all muddled up. Go visit the Middle East and find some Jews so you can ask them.

Lifecanbebeautiful12 · 08/10/2025 08:30

Ayoopkid · 08/10/2025 08:24

What are you taking about? The MENA ethnically cleansed all their Jews. Why you have a problem and obsession about their little country there? It is the Jews who have been hated and persecuted and slaughtered. Not Palestinians…!! Palestinians are less connected to it than even I am! Never mind it’s ok. I don’t need to argue because I know the truth.

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So MENA ethnically cleansing Jews = bad. Jews moving to another area and ethnically cleansing the Muslims who live there = acceptable?

Ayoopkid · 08/10/2025 08:31

sabababa · 08/10/2025 05:48

The problem is that you've actually lived in an Arab country and know exactly the conversations which happen about jews and israel versus what people in the west hear. You won't get through.

I start to hear it from people in the west now sadly. They don’t usually say Jews though, they say Zionists and Israelis to avoid being open about their intentions. But it’s the same. In Yemen it started like this. Now look at Yemen. I hope it doesn’t happen to the west, but…

Ayoopkid · 08/10/2025 08:32

Lifecanbebeautiful12 · 08/10/2025 08:30

So MENA ethnically cleansing Jews = bad. Jews moving to another area and ethnically cleansing the Muslims who live there = acceptable?

Jews ethnically cleansing Muslims? What are you talking about? Why do you lie like this? I don’t understand.

Lifecanbebeautiful12 · 08/10/2025 08:34

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Ayoopkid · 08/10/2025 08:35

No more replies. I’m devastated truly. You are very brainwashed and wrong. What happens to a country when they remove the Jews is not good. The uk is not a good place anymore with people who think Jews are ethnically cleansing Arabs when they are 2 billion of them and 57 countries! I think you all smoke something good! Leave the Jews alone please. Your comments just make me feel Israel is more necessary than ever for us now.

soupyspoon · 08/10/2025 08:36

PurpleThistle7 · 07/10/2025 09:58

Gosh where are you? I'd love to see some F* Hamas stickers. Totally opposite to what I'm surrounded by every single day. Swastikas and pro-intifada stickers everywhere here.

(Appreciate I'm a massive minority but I've never felt this more than now and it's intriguing to learn that there's somewhere where I'd feel less lonely)

You're not in a minority, away from the social media bubble and group think, in real life most people are baffled that Hamas is not castigated and now is legitimised by recognising a Palestinian state. When are Gazans going to rise up against Hamas, why are people in the UK supporting a terrorist regime?

Ayoopkid · 08/10/2025 08:36

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I see your agenda too habibti - I don’t reply. I’ve been through enough at the hands of Jew haters.

Lifecanbebeautiful12 · 08/10/2025 08:38

Ayoopkid · 08/10/2025 08:32

Jews ethnically cleansing Muslims? What are you talking about? Why do you lie like this? I don’t understand.

Sorry, just one more thing. You claimed that Yemen would not accept Palestinians as they were so dangerous but in the same posts claimed Yemen refused to have Jews in their country. Could we agree that 1. Perhaps Yemen shouldn’t be a respected body in deciding who can and cannot live anywhere and 2. That cleansing a people from their homeland is wrong whether it is perpetrated by Yemen or Israel?

MrsSkylerWhite · 08/10/2025 08:38

ExtraOnions · 07/10/2025 10:21

Both sides are now so entrenched there is little room left for reasonable debate and action. You can’t say anything without being accused of either supporting genocide, or being anti-Semitic.

I genuinely see no way that this starts to get resolved ..we seem to have lost the ability to accept that different people, have different views, and we don’t have to spend our days shouting at them in an attempt to change thier mind.

Every conversation is filled with Hypoerbole .. everything is “disgusting” “appalling” “disgraceful” “an attack” etc .. I kinda blame SM for some of it, it’s seems to whip up this sort of language.

Lots of people think that; The Hamas attack was wrong, the destruction of Gaza is wrong, making people in this country feel unsafe is wrong, curtailing free-speech is wrong, shouting in each others faces in wrong.

You can think all of these things, at the same time.

Absolutely.

Ayoopkid · 08/10/2025 08:39

Lifecanbebeautiful12 · 08/10/2025 08:38

Sorry, just one more thing. You claimed that Yemen would not accept Palestinians as they were so dangerous but in the same posts claimed Yemen refused to have Jews in their country. Could we agree that 1. Perhaps Yemen shouldn’t be a respected body in deciding who can and cannot live anywhere and 2. That cleansing a people from their homeland is wrong whether it is perpetrated by Yemen or Israel?

Israel is not cleansing anyone from their homeland. You don’t know what you’re talking about and I’m upset and offended by you. Sorry. It’s enough. Good day I go now. Best wishes.

SpaceRaccoon · 08/10/2025 08:39

It’s interesting how you believe that Iran and Qatar and the rest of the Middle East want to get rid of Israel, a tiny area in comparison to the surrounding nations, and have done very little about that.

Nothing? Iran bankrolls Hamas and Qatar is de facto their press wing plus playing host to the senior Hamas members.

SpaceRaccoon · 08/10/2025 08:41

Ayoopkid · 08/10/2025 08:35

No more replies. I’m devastated truly. You are very brainwashed and wrong. What happens to a country when they remove the Jews is not good. The uk is not a good place anymore with people who think Jews are ethnically cleansing Arabs when they are 2 billion of them and 57 countries! I think you all smoke something good! Leave the Jews alone please. Your comments just make me feel Israel is more necessary than ever for us now.

I'm so sorry. I like tp think it's a vital brainwashed minority but it's still unpleasant.
I totally recognise the truth in what you're saying, having lived in Qatar for a time.

Ayoopkid · 08/10/2025 08:41

SpaceRaccoon · 08/10/2025 08:39

It’s interesting how you believe that Iran and Qatar and the rest of the Middle East want to get rid of Israel, a tiny area in comparison to the surrounding nations, and have done very little about that.

Nothing? Iran bankrolls Hamas and Qatar is de facto their press wing plus playing host to the senior Hamas members.

qatar give the Houthis the bombs to send to Israeli cities. Every 3 days there is a missile from Yemen to tel Aviv but here nobody complains even though targeting civilians is a war crime no? People starving in Yemen but still Qatar can buy them missiles. One day it will be obvious who the bad guys are. It’s not Israel.

Ayoopkid · 08/10/2025 08:42

SpaceRaccoon · 08/10/2025 08:41

I'm so sorry. I like tp think it's a vital brainwashed minority but it's still unpleasant.
I totally recognise the truth in what you're saying, having lived in Qatar for a time.

Thank you so much. I am very upset and angry about this forum.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 08/10/2025 08:52

Ayoopkid · 08/10/2025 08:42

Thank you so much. I am very upset and angry about this forum.

I appreciate your posts because it’s obvious you know what you’re talking about. I hope you won’t be put off posting here altogether though I don’t blame you if you need a break.
When it feels like nobody is listening on here, please know that there are people not posting much because we’re here to learn rather than shout, and we value your contribution very much.

Livelovebehappy · 08/10/2025 08:57

soupyspoon · 08/10/2025 08:36

You're not in a minority, away from the social media bubble and group think, in real life most people are baffled that Hamas is not castigated and now is legitimised by recognising a Palestinian state. When are Gazans going to rise up against Hamas, why are people in the UK supporting a terrorist regime?

I don’t think the majority of people here in the UK do support Palestinians. It’s Muslims that are the biggest representation of support for the Palestinians. I think taking them out of the equation here and there wouldn’t be the same level of support. Most people I know and speak to, whilst appalled at the deaths, are very much behind Israel’s right to defend their people. Had they not tried to retrieve the hostages, and get rid of Hamas, the terrorists would have continued to sneak in to Israel and kidnap and rape more civilians.

Ayoopkid · 08/10/2025 08:58

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 08/10/2025 08:52

I appreciate your posts because it’s obvious you know what you’re talking about. I hope you won’t be put off posting here altogether though I don’t blame you if you need a break.
When it feels like nobody is listening on here, please know that there are people not posting much because we’re here to learn rather than shout, and we value your contribution very much.

Thank you very much. Unfortunately people have been brainwashed willingly and even though facts are there it doesn’t help. Thank you for supporting me - I am having to go now because I’m upset and triggered a little. Best wishes

sabababa · 08/10/2025 09:01

Ayoopkid · 08/10/2025 08:22

i read again your comment! Haha! Iran and Qatar done nothing???? Oh dear.

Iran literally has a countdown clock in Tehran counting down to the destruction of Israel.
Qatar is not as fanatical - more doesnt want to see a strong israel.
But Iran? If israel didn't have iron dome, half of tel aviv would be destroyed

Livelovebehappy · 08/10/2025 09:02

Ayoopkid · 08/10/2025 08:42

Thank you so much. I am very upset and angry about this forum.

Don’t allow yourself to be bullied off the forum. You’ll see this happen on many of the Middle East/Palestine threads by very angry and bitter individuals who don’t like people to have a different opinion to themselves on the situation. They then build their own little echo chambers, and jump on any other thread on the matter to repeat their lies. It’s tedious to have to stand up to them continuously I know, but that’s what you have to do with bullies.

Linzloopy · 08/10/2025 09:02

Lifecanbebeautiful12 · 08/10/2025 08:30

So MENA ethnically cleansing Jews = bad. Jews moving to another area and ethnically cleansing the Muslims who live there = acceptable?

You certainly are confused.

How can you say with a straight face that "Jews" have "ethnically cleansed" Israel when about 20% of its population is Muslim Arab? Have you ever asked any Israeli Arabs or Muslims whether they would prefer to live in an Arab country? I have. They all said no, because they preferred to live in a tolerant democracy. The women were especially emphatic, because they know how most women are treated in Arab countries.

Arab/Muslim countries, on the other hand (what @Ayoopkid refers to as MENA) have driven nearly all Jews (approx 800,000) out.

https://hansard.parliament.uk/commons/2019-06-19/debates/F75D29CB-C4C8-447D-A028-1FA05CD3594D/JewishRefugeesFromTheMiddleEastAndNorthAfrica

https://www.worldjewishcongress.org/en/news/the-expulsion-of-jews-from-arab-countries-and-iran--an-untold-history

You need to educate yourself.

The expulsion of Jews from Arab countries and Iran – an untold history - World Jewish Congress

https://www.worldjewishcongress.org/en/news/the-expulsion-of-jews-from-arab-countries-and-iran--an-untold-history

Livelovebehappy · 08/10/2025 09:08

Lifecanbebeautiful12 · 08/10/2025 08:11

It’s interesting how you believe that Iran and Qatar and the rest of the Middle East want to get rid of Israel, a tiny area in comparison to the surrounding nations, and have done very little about that. But can’t believe that Israel wants to get rid of Palestinians despite decades of daily attempts to do just that.

Qatar harbour Hamas fgs. That’s where the cowardly fat cat leaders hide themselves. They know where they will be safe. It doesn’t take a genius to work out why they choose Qatar….

sabababa · 08/10/2025 09:09

Ayoopkid · 08/10/2025 08:58

Thank you very much. Unfortunately people have been brainwashed willingly and even though facts are there it doesn’t help. Thank you for supporting me - I am having to go now because I’m upset and triggered a little. Best wishes

I dont think anyone in the west can appreciate what it would be like living as a Jew in Yemen. The Houthis slogan literally says 'Death to israel, Curse on the Jews'. They dont even bother with the mask of Zionists. They are deeply antisemitic. And no, it's not because they 'just oppose genocide'

Lifecanbebeautiful12 · 08/10/2025 09:12

Linzloopy · 08/10/2025 09:02

You certainly are confused.

How can you say with a straight face that "Jews" have "ethnically cleansed" Israel when about 20% of its population is Muslim Arab? Have you ever asked any Israeli Arabs or Muslims whether they would prefer to live in an Arab country? I have. They all said no, because they preferred to live in a tolerant democracy. The women were especially emphatic, because they know how most women are treated in Arab countries.

Arab/Muslim countries, on the other hand (what @Ayoopkid refers to as MENA) have driven nearly all Jews (approx 800,000) out.

https://hansard.parliament.uk/commons/2019-06-19/debates/F75D29CB-C4C8-447D-A028-1FA05CD3594D/JewishRefugeesFromTheMiddleEastAndNorthAfrica

https://www.worldjewishcongress.org/en/news/the-expulsion-of-jews-from-arab-countries-and-iran--an-untold-history

You need to educate yourself.

So because some Arabs remain in Israel this means they have not expelled Palestinians from their homes and massacred them…? That’s the argument? At no point did I deny that the MENA region has also expelled Jews - my argument is that you cannot be against of the expulsion of Jews at the same time as condoning or even denying the expulsion of Palestinians. Ethnic cleansing is wrong whomever is the victim. Ethnic cleansing of one does not justify ethnic cleansing of another. And in fact, if your people are victims of ethnic cleansing why are you not more sympathetic to those who are also victims of the same awful reality?