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To be utterly disgusted by the woman cutting down yellow ribbons commemorating the October 7th victims in Muswell Hill yesterday morning

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AngeloMysterioso · 07/10/2025 09:43

When Jewish people are being attacked and murdered on their way to synagogue on Yom Kippur

When you literally can’t move or look in any direction without Palestine Palestine Palestine in our faces

On the eve of the anniversary of the worst atrocity committed against Jewish people since the Holocaust, a small, unobtrusive memorial for the victims of that unthinkable, barbaric attack was destroyed yesterday by a despicable woman who turned up with scissors and cut the ribbons down, one by one.

Ribbons for women and girls who were raped and murdered.
Ribbons for babies ripped from their parents’ arms and slaughtered.
Ribbons for men beaten to death.
Ribbons for the hostages still suffering every moment.

And this disgusting individual took it upon herself to come along with a pair of scissors and cut each one away. Her excuse? They “condone genocide”.

Let’s not pretend for a moment that that was her true motivation. It was a revolting demonstration of the antisemitism that has become so shamefully rife in this country that it sickens me.

This woman needs to be named and shamed for the loathsome person she is.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/10/07/woman-filmed-cutting-ribbons-commemorating-israeli-hostages/

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/met-police-woman-ribbons-israel-hostages-london-manchester-synagogue-b1251594.html

https://www.lbc.co.uk/article/woman-filmed-cutting-down-ribbons-commemorating-israeli-hostages-in-north-london-5HjdF2y2/

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15167737/amp/woman-cuts-yellow-ribbons-israeli-hostages-london.html

https://inews.co.uk/news/anger-woman-filmed-cutting-down-ribbons-london-memorial-israeli-hostages-3961369

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confusedlady10 · 08/10/2025 01:34

Smilersam · 08/10/2025 01:08

You are spot on.

None of this lot would move and live in Palestine yet support them. Absolute hypocrites.
Support Israel and the Jewish community who the British need to support.

Would you up and move away from your life and family just to prove a point? And considering Palestinians are treated like second rate citizens, who would want to even if they could? That's the point in that they have always been treated unfairly and then painted out as wanting to be victims after Oct 7, as if the "war" only started then out of nowhere. As a British person I support all life and give more of my energy and support to those who have much less. Being pro-Palestinian and showing and wanting to support the oppressed isn't not wanting to support Jews or supporting what happened on Oct 7.

Findingmypurposeinlife · 08/10/2025 02:11

Nestingbirds · 07/10/2025 11:58

Hamas are terrorists they are going to exist even if they no longer govern.

Unfortunately, Netanyahu is also guilty in all of this.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/

Linzloopy · 08/10/2025 04:45

Wakeuplittlebunnies · 07/10/2025 23:37

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C7ahKbjgdiR/

Israeli soldiers talking about what they did in 1948

Terrible. But not the same as what happened, by scale, timing or design, as what happened on October 11th.

Linzloopy · 08/10/2025 05:11

confusedlady10 · 07/10/2025 23:35

It wasn't at a festival, homes are more than enough. The displacement, rape and torture and murder of innocent Palestinians was no different, if not worse comparing causalities.

Obviously I don’t defend this horror from 77 years ago, but it was not a minutely pre-planned incursion, organised by the governing body of another country, on one day, with 1200 people killed in one incident. It did not involve hundreds of people, aged from babies to elderly, kidnapped on that day and taken off to be imprisoned and held hostage for years.

As far as I am aware it did not involve horrors such as the adult and young child bound together with wire and burned alive on October 7th (which is in my mind because I accidentally saw a photo of their charred remains yesterday).

So yes, it was dreadful, indefensible, and it feels wrong to try to compare or rank such terrible deeds, but no it was not the same as October 7th.

sabababa · 08/10/2025 05:30

BloominNora · 07/10/2025 23:06

"The Haganah did not bomb the King David Hotel. That attack was carried out by the Irgun and was publicly condemned by the Yishuv’s leadership."

@sabababa - I didn't say that they carried it out, I said they sanctioned it - and the Jerusalem Post agrees:

and from the Jerusalem post:
Many people are convinced that the British might have remained here indefinitely - were it not for violent actions by the underground (Etzel, Lehi, and the Hagana)...
Although the Hagana had sanctioned the King David bombing, world-wide condemnation caused the organization to distance itself from the attack. As a result, the blast signified the end of a period known as the United Resistance, in which the Hagana, Etzel and Lehi more or less worked together in an attempt to oust the British.

Again, that is not me saying it - that is the Jerusalem post saying it.

I have not called them 'terrorists' I called them ultra zionist and said they used terrorism and committed terrorist acts - for clarification - from my first post:

The use of terrorism by Hamas in fighting for a Palestinian state is no different to the use of terrorism by ultra zionist groups like Hagannah, Irgun and Lehi in the 1940's when they formed the 'Jewish Resistance Movement' and were fighting for an Israeli state (including the assassination of Baron Moyne, the bombing of the King David hotel and the Deir Yassin massacre)

The definition of terrorism is: the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.

Plan Dalet was written by Haganah and literally laid out the sanctioning of the destruction of villages and expulsion of their populations

Discussions about Hagana's and Palmach's role specifically, whether they were linked to or completely separate from Irgun and Lehi and whether they should be called terrorists or not (and I emphasise again - I did not call them terrorists) can go on forever, but all of the historians and sociologists agree that they were paramilitaries.

And yes, of course it's all contextual - just as what is going on today is contextual, but while context may provide a reason for it, it doesn't excuse acts of terror that result in the deaths of innocent people and especially children.

The Haganah did not carry out terrorism. Period. There was a civil war. The irgun did not take orders from the Haganah.

And to call it "ultra zionist" is totally non sensible. It was a mainstream Palestinian zionist organization. Nothing ultra about it.

Thank God the Haganah existed or there would be no Israel and no Jews living there.

sabababa · 08/10/2025 05:36

Linzloopy · 08/10/2025 05:11

Obviously I don’t defend this horror from 77 years ago, but it was not a minutely pre-planned incursion, organised by the governing body of another country, on one day, with 1200 people killed in one incident. It did not involve hundreds of people, aged from babies to elderly, kidnapped on that day and taken off to be imprisoned and held hostage for years.

As far as I am aware it did not involve horrors such as the adult and young child bound together with wire and burned alive on October 7th (which is in my mind because I accidentally saw a photo of their charred remains yesterday).

So yes, it was dreadful, indefensible, and it feels wrong to try to compare or rank such terrible deeds, but no it was not the same as October 7th.

Edited

It was one incident in the middle of a brutal civil war. Perhaps we could interview Arab soldiers who committed the Gush Etziyon massacre? Or the Hadassah hospital convoy massacre?

To somehow link a massacre which happened 77 years ago in the middoe of a war when the other side were doing the same and worse (and i dont dispute it happened- it would be astonishing if there had been no massacres or atrocities on either side in such a civil war as history shows) to justify 7/10 is nuts.

sabababa · 08/10/2025 05:43

hihelenhi · 08/10/2025 01:30

Getting rid of Jews (not "resisting the current Israeli government" or "wanting peace") is a key doctrine of Hamas. It's in their covenant. What they want isn't about "Palestinians just being treated fairly":

"Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it.”

Its introduction says:
"This Covenant of the Islamic Resistance Movement (HAMAS), clarifies its picture, reveals its identity, outlines its stand, explains its aims, speaks about its hopes, and calls for its support, adoption and joining its ranks. Our struggle against the Jews is very great and very serious … It is a step that inevitably should be followed by other steps."

"“The Day of Judgement will not come about until Moslems fight the Jews, when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him.”

And what on earth do you think "from the river to the sea" actually means? It means that Israel (and its population) will no longer exist. Again, this is not "just asking to be treated fairly" and if you really do imagine it is when that slogan is shouted you are being terribly naive.

I know. Its crazy. All they want is to be treated fairly?? Umm, no. They've wanted to win and have it all. No jewish state was acceptable to them. Its not like they rejected the 1947 partition plan but came up with one of their own. It was an absolute no. Same with three nos of Khartoum.
It's a big problem for any Palestinian leader as many are so convinced they only have to wait it out and they'll beat israel so why compromise?

sabababa · 08/10/2025 05:48

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The problem is that you've actually lived in an Arab country and know exactly the conversations which happen about jews and israel versus what people in the west hear. You won't get through.

Skodacool · 08/10/2025 06:32

HelenaWaiting · 08/10/2025 00:55

This is such bullshit. No one is "ethnically Palestinian" in the same way that no one is "ethnically British". When in history was there a country called Palestine? Who was their leader before Arafat? What was their currency? Believe lies if you want to but don't trot them out as "truths" because someone has presented you with the facts and they're too hard to stomach.

This might help. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_name_Palestine

By the same argument that you use, there was not always Israel.

Timeline of the name Palestine - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_name_Palestine

Ihatetomatoes · 08/10/2025 07:06

Nestingbirds · 07/10/2025 18:26

Actually Iran backs Hamas and have been funnelling both funds and weapons to them for decades.

This.

sabababa · 08/10/2025 07:36

Skodacool · 07/10/2025 23:33

Oh dear, what I said was not antisemitic. Are members of the Israeli government not Jewish?

I can't believe you're doubling down and think what you wrote was OK. But then again I guess it's very telling and explains a lot about all the denials ofthe existence of antisemitism in the pro Palestinian camp and the bleats of 'But any criticism of israel is shut down as antisemitism".

If I spoke about, say, the Pakistani government as "the Muslims", would that be OK?
You know, it's incomprehensible what the Muslims are doing to the Indians for example. Because are members of the Pakistani government not Muslim?

Bumdrops · 08/10/2025 07:39

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Thank you for taking the time to spell this out
spot on.
Thank you.

Ayoopkid · 08/10/2025 07:50

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Oh dear. I think you will be in for big shock soon! Do you really believe this? I already told you, all the Jews in MENA ethnically cleansed. Please dear, show me please where Jews live in this region. Tell me dear, what flag was used by “Palestinians” before Sahib Arafat start manipulate you to hate the Israelis and why there is Muslim mosque built over ruins of Jewish temple. Tell me why Arabs who accept to live with Jews thrive and succeed in Israel but Palestine refugees continue with their mission to wipe them off earth? What was Gaza? West Bank? Never belong to Palestine - belong Egypt and Jordan. You not even brainwashed just hate Jews. I come from Yemen - they tell Us go to Israel! Now they bomb Israel! MENA was ethnically cleansed of Jews - only Israel left. You lie for hate of Jews is shameful. But the people in the ME know what is happening soon in UK. We wait.

Ayoopkid · 08/10/2025 07:53

BloominNora · 08/10/2025 00:55

Jews are not terrorists are you crazy?

I didn't call Jews terrorists. I stated that ultra zionist groups committed acts of terror but was very specific about not calling them terrorists and I certainly did not say that 'Jews' were terrorists - in fact I specifically called another poster out for doing that.

Yes mad behaviour and decisions and probably terror too.

So you agree those actions did cause terror?

Jews do not use tactic of terror usually or since.

No 'Jews' don't, but the Israeli government and settlers in the West Bank do.

2000 dead, 100,000 injured and 21,000 displaced Palestinians in the West Bank since 2008 is testament to that. Ali Dawabsheh's brother and grandfather would also likely say the same.

The Jews were desperate

And many of them worked politically to achieve their aims without resorting to massacring and displacing whole villages.

Many Palastinians are desperate now - doesn't make what Hamas are doing OK though.

Wow, the education here you receive is very strange and not really factual.

There really is no need to resort to ad hominem attacks is there?

You haven't highlighted anything that I actually said as not factual - only what you misunderstood me to have said.

Wow you really try huh! Ok I don’t want I argue. You decide already you don’t want Jews in MENA. I know - nothing new for me and my family. You want Muslim world? It will happen soon. I don’t need to argue with you.,

Lifecanbebeautiful12 · 08/10/2025 07:54

You, LinzLoopy, Ayoopkid and nestingbirds are posting truly awful things that if we said about Jews or the Holocaust, we would be arrested. You are denying and minimising massacres against Palestinian people and posting pure lies about them and their history. Your posts show how much you despise Palestinians and believe they should just shut up and accept being occupied and murdered by Israelis. Even arguing ‘why haven’t they left if they don’t like it’. When one side is a wealthy, powerful army and the other side are a people living in refugee camps - it is never a ‘war’. There is no justification for ANYTHING that Israel have done to Palestinians. Nothing justifies slaughter of civilians on 7th October either but if you could engage your brain and soul past hating Palestinians you might begin to understand the reasons why a group of people felt the need for an attack against people who have been killing them for decades. Can you even try to imagine the conditions under which Palestinians have lived since the Nakba where Zionist militants literally came to their homes, violently forced them out, poisoned their wells to prevent life, and then moved in or destroyed their homes! Since then Israel has treated them with nothing other than evil. Awful things happened on October 7, there is no doubt, but also many things were made up by the Israeli government to sow further hate towards the innocent Palestinians. Including the beheaded baby hoax and importantly, the claim that a pregnant woman had been murdered and had her baby cut from her stomach. This particular lie is inportant as it is exactly what happened to a Palestinian woman during the Sabra and Shatila massacre. The hoax about babies in ovens in Israel is also important as this is again something that has happened to a Palestinian at the hands of Israel during the Deir Yassin massacre where Israeli soldiers threw a young boy into a bakery oven in front of his father. These are the proven incidents that we know about and just the tip of the iceberg because unfortunately Israel has also squashed the voice of the Palestinian people over the same time period and there are likely many more atrocities happening daily that we will never hear about. You are right that you cannot compare October 7 with decades of daily evil, callous, targeted terror attacks against innocent Palestinian civilians. And I am not talking about Hamas here at all - the majority of the evil perpetrated by Israel is suffered by the ordinary civilians. And calling these things ‘civil war’ is minimising the atrocities

Ayoopkid · 08/10/2025 07:54

confusedlady10 · 08/10/2025 00:28

To "colonise" yet all they've asked for is to be treated fairly after being treated as second rate citizens and forced out of their homes. Does that sound logical to you? Especially when you compare the population of both with the killings on both sides. You've written paragraphs completely regurgitating the same thing, ignoring the point. Wanting Palestinians to be treated fairly and equally, even well before Hamas came into power is all pro-Palestinians want. It doesn't mean pro-Hamas or wanting to get rid of Jews. That's the propaganda the media want to hide behind and promote when justifying eradicating a whole group of people after treating them like cattle for years and the same way as well before Oct 7. Oct 7 was atrocious but lets not act like it started only then.

You try to argue with me about what I know and experienced? You think you know more than me about this? Ok.

Ayoopkid · 08/10/2025 07:55

Alittlefeedbackwouldbenice · 08/10/2025 00:10

So terrorism's okay if the people are desperate, have faced oppression and are trying to get their own state right?

It was wrong then, and it's wrong now. Hence those acts of terrorism were wrong, just like the 7/10 ones are.

Yes of course.

Ayoopkid · 08/10/2025 07:57

Lifecanbebeautiful12 · 07/10/2025 22:18

This is completely infactual. Gazans are ethnically Palestinian. Egypt administered the Gaza Strip after 1948 - this does not make Gazans Egyptian and they were not even given Egyptian citizenship. Are you really trying to claim that it is the Gazans who have moved to a land they were not living in before and have no ethnic ties to rather than the Jewish settlers from Europe? Incredible level of gaslighting. The Palestinians living in the areas you speak of were pushed out of their homes into the Gaza Strip as refugees. Unbelievable that you are so confidently claiming that those in Gaza are actually Egyptians and Jordanians who chose to become refugees!!

You tell me that truth I know is not true and lies you believe are true. I dint argue with this level of things. Every word I said is 100% true but you will not accept it. As I said you will eventually see for yourself.

Ayoopkid · 08/10/2025 07:59

ThatCyanCat · 07/10/2025 22:09

I know the map well enough to follow (and to know what "from the river to the sea" means). But I've always wondered why Egypt and Jordan never offered or were willing to reabsorb the land and its inhabitants after the war was over, especially as they then made peace with Israel quite quickly.

This is the answer I was hoping not to get, but thought I probably would...

They complicit in the Jewish problem. Palestinian being refugees are useful in the quest for getting the west to support the destruction of Israel

Lifecanbebeautiful12 · 08/10/2025 08:01

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Ayoopkid · 08/10/2025 08:01

ThatCyanCat · 07/10/2025 21:54

If you don't mind my asking, why do you think Egypt and Jordan have never offered to reabsorb the Gazans and West Bankers after the six day war? I think a lot of people truly have no understanding of how Gaza and the West Bank came to be as they are and really do think the Israelis just charged in and took over for no reason at some unspecified time.

I'd be pro two states if I thought it was possible, which it absolutely isn't under Hamas. But the Gazans could go back to being Egyptian and the West Bankers to being Jordanian. Why is this not an option?

Yes I think this should be the option and makes the most sense. But now they afraid of Palestinian rebels like houthis in Yemen. Also Qatar and Iran need refugees to pressure the west to destroy Israel. Is working.

Lifecanbebeautiful12 · 08/10/2025 08:11

Ayoopkid · 08/10/2025 08:01

Yes I think this should be the option and makes the most sense. But now they afraid of Palestinian rebels like houthis in Yemen. Also Qatar and Iran need refugees to pressure the west to destroy Israel. Is working.

It’s interesting how you believe that Iran and Qatar and the rest of the Middle East want to get rid of Israel, a tiny area in comparison to the surrounding nations, and have done very little about that. But can’t believe that Israel wants to get rid of Palestinians despite decades of daily attempts to do just that.

Ayoopkid · 08/10/2025 08:18

confusedlady10 · 08/10/2025 00:28

To "colonise" yet all they've asked for is to be treated fairly after being treated as second rate citizens and forced out of their homes. Does that sound logical to you? Especially when you compare the population of both with the killings on both sides. You've written paragraphs completely regurgitating the same thing, ignoring the point. Wanting Palestinians to be treated fairly and equally, even well before Hamas came into power is all pro-Palestinians want. It doesn't mean pro-Hamas or wanting to get rid of Jews. That's the propaganda the media want to hide behind and promote when justifying eradicating a whole group of people after treating them like cattle for years and the same way as well before Oct 7. Oct 7 was atrocious but lets not act like it started only then.

You don’t listen. It’s ok I except that you won’t. Do you support the ethnic cleansing of Jews from the Middle East? Do you support the colonisation of MENA by Islam? It’s ok with you? Only a few Jews left there after being brutally and foreably removed from their countries and you want them to live with people like Hamas who want to also remove them? Why can’t Jews have a country? If the Yemen people can remove Jews by force. Also Iranian also Lebanese but you have an obsessional problem when something happens when Israel wants to survive? In Yemen we know how this ends.

Ayoopkid · 08/10/2025 08:21

Lifecanbebeautiful12 · 08/10/2025 08:11

It’s interesting how you believe that Iran and Qatar and the rest of the Middle East want to get rid of Israel, a tiny area in comparison to the surrounding nations, and have done very little about that. But can’t believe that Israel wants to get rid of Palestinians despite decades of daily attempts to do just that.

Because you believe something that is not true. Israelis don’t try to get rid of Palestinians you are either lying because you hate Jews or you naive. Sorry.

Ayoopkid · 08/10/2025 08:22

Lifecanbebeautiful12 · 08/10/2025 08:11

It’s interesting how you believe that Iran and Qatar and the rest of the Middle East want to get rid of Israel, a tiny area in comparison to the surrounding nations, and have done very little about that. But can’t believe that Israel wants to get rid of Palestinians despite decades of daily attempts to do just that.

i read again your comment! Haha! Iran and Qatar done nothing???? Oh dear.

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