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To be utterly disgusted by the woman cutting down yellow ribbons commemorating the October 7th victims in Muswell Hill yesterday morning

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AngeloMysterioso · 07/10/2025 09:43

When Jewish people are being attacked and murdered on their way to synagogue on Yom Kippur

When you literally can’t move or look in any direction without Palestine Palestine Palestine in our faces

On the eve of the anniversary of the worst atrocity committed against Jewish people since the Holocaust, a small, unobtrusive memorial for the victims of that unthinkable, barbaric attack was destroyed yesterday by a despicable woman who turned up with scissors and cut the ribbons down, one by one.

Ribbons for women and girls who were raped and murdered.
Ribbons for babies ripped from their parents’ arms and slaughtered.
Ribbons for men beaten to death.
Ribbons for the hostages still suffering every moment.

And this disgusting individual took it upon herself to come along with a pair of scissors and cut each one away. Her excuse? They “condone genocide”.

Let’s not pretend for a moment that that was her true motivation. It was a revolting demonstration of the antisemitism that has become so shamefully rife in this country that it sickens me.

This woman needs to be named and shamed for the loathsome person she is.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/10/07/woman-filmed-cutting-ribbons-commemorating-israeli-hostages/

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/met-police-woman-ribbons-israel-hostages-london-manchester-synagogue-b1251594.html

https://www.lbc.co.uk/article/woman-filmed-cutting-down-ribbons-commemorating-israeli-hostages-in-north-london-5HjdF2y2/

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15167737/amp/woman-cuts-yellow-ribbons-israeli-hostages-london.html

https://inews.co.uk/news/anger-woman-filmed-cutting-down-ribbons-london-memorial-israeli-hostages-3961369

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confusedlady10 · 07/10/2025 22:06

sabababa · 07/10/2025 21:51

No, hamas later came into power on that same platfrom in Gaza after Israel withdrew.
Actually the peace process benefitted Palestinians A LOT.

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Yes exactly, so before they came in to power the Israeli government were doing the exact same thing as on Oct 7 to innocent Palestinians. And every peace deal has meant more displacement for innocent Palestinians with the Israeli government keeping the borders and majority land. Tell me in any one of the deals including in 1993 & 1995 (since bringing up Hamas blowing up buses in 90s) where Palestinians benefited in any peace deal apart from what it boils down to which is: "we've taken your land so put up or shut up and be grateful for what we give you and that you're alive."

confusedlady10 · 07/10/2025 22:08

Ayoopkid · 07/10/2025 21:52

what does it matter her main points? They are irrelevant when we are discussing a Palestinian state - there is nothing moral, just or even acceptable about supporting yet another country that bans Jews. I’m telling you that this is what they did it Yemen, in Lebanon, in so many Arab countries which have become religious, woman hating shit holes. Anyway Palestinians won’t be happy with a country unless it’s from the river to the sea with absolutely no Jews. Again, what’s wrong with you people? Either you refuse to see the writing on the wall or you just really hate the Jewish nation.

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Because if you read through their points, nowhere have they said ban Jews, rather give Palestinians a fair and equal life...

ThatCyanCat · 07/10/2025 22:09

Ayoopkid · 07/10/2025 22:00

From what I understood from the information we had, these people were citizens of Egypt and Jordan. Gaza belonged to Egypt and the West Bank is the West Bank of Jordan not Israel (it is east of Israel). Arafat created an identity for them to prevent the success and safety of Israel in the 1960’s. In Yemen we called them “Mitzri” which means Egyptian. Palestinian isn’t even a word in Arabic we can’t say the letter “P”. It’s all a ploy by the Muslim brotherhood backed by Iran and Qatar. They don’t care how many Palestinians are sacrificed as long as they eventually get rid of the Jews - then the country will be absorbed at all 4 corners by Lebanon, Syria, Jordan and Egypt. Easier to explain if you look on a map.

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I know the map well enough to follow (and to know what "from the river to the sea" means). But I've always wondered why Egypt and Jordan never offered or were willing to reabsorb the land and its inhabitants after the war was over, especially as they then made peace with Israel quite quickly.

This is the answer I was hoping not to get, but thought I probably would...

sabababa · 07/10/2025 22:12

confusedlady10 · 07/10/2025 22:06

Yes exactly, so before they came in to power the Israeli government were doing the exact same thing as on Oct 7 to innocent Palestinians. And every peace deal has meant more displacement for innocent Palestinians with the Israeli government keeping the borders and majority land. Tell me in any one of the deals including in 1993 & 1995 (since bringing up Hamas blowing up buses in 90s) where Palestinians benefited in any peace deal apart from what it boils down to which is: "we've taken your land so put up or shut up and be grateful for what we give you and that you're alive."

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Sorry, you seem quite confused and you seem to be justifying October 7 and no peace solution. No, peace deals have not meant displacement. And Oslo, while far from perfect, gave palestinians self rule which was meant to lead eventually to a Palestinian state in WB and Gaza. And there were negotiations and compromise. But, yes, indeed israel is here to stay and Palestinians are not going to get 1948 borders back however much they might want it and however many innocent Israelis Hamas might blow up, rape and kill to make sure there won't be peace.
BTW, palestinian terrorism didn't start with hamas. And it didn't start with the occupation in WB and Gaza either.

Livelovebehappy · 07/10/2025 22:12

Ruby1985 · 07/10/2025 22:04

No one supports Hamas so stop trying to be smart! We don’t support the apartheid state either

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I’d bet every single person on the pro Palestinian marches support what Hamas did. It really shows their lack of intelligence that they think the Hamas regime is good for Palestine. Can anyone say what good they’ve brought to the lives of the Palestinians? They have brought death to them in great numbers by instigating the war. They don’t feed them. They don’t protect them. The majority of them don’t even stay in the same country.

YellowDaze · 07/10/2025 22:12

nomas · 07/10/2025 21:38

I said I donn’t think she didn’t look smug ‘to me’, why have you twisted that into ‘absolutely, categorically, definitely knowing that it wasn't ' smug'’?

And why aren’t you asking the person who said she ‘looks smug, defiant and hostile with a great sense of being puffed up with a sense of self-righteousness and a cast-iron conviction of being 'right' that only the relatively young and inexperienced can manage to maintain.’

They got all that from one clip? Righto.

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You obviously disagree with the pp interpretation. If you can't work out her motivation from facial expressions, go by her actions. What do they tell you?

sabababa · 07/10/2025 22:13

Ruby1985 · 07/10/2025 22:04

No one supports Hamas so stop trying to be smart! We don’t support the apartheid state either

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You don't support Lebanon? Odd.

And is it the royal we?

Linzloopy · 07/10/2025 22:15

hihelenhi · 07/10/2025 19:30

Have you not watched the whole video? She absolutely is smug. She is cutting down the ribbons that are there to commemorate specific individuals who were killed or kidnapped by Hamas and telling those filming that they were "genocide supporters". As such, she is acting as a Hamas schill. And it's not the first time stupid, wealthy UK individuals who imagine they're being "edgy liberals" have been filmed doing the same (and yes, often with inane grins on their faces when they're challenged, like creepy Manson girls). No doubt this prat imagines she's some kind of "freedom fighter" (a bit like those on London's streets who celebrated and cheered the massacre of easily-targeted liberal Jews as being an "act of resistance"the day after the it happened.)

Fine, people can remain in total denial about what's going on here. You can 100% condemn Netanyahu's excessive acts of retribution in Gaza (the man's a racist psycho, imo) without making pathetic excuses for a posh, virulent antisemite and her performative, spiteful and vindictive behaviour in the UK targeted at the HOSTAGES, at the targets of Oct 7 itself, at the Jewish people who were killed so horrifically and those who care about them. As a reminder, these included young people at a PEACE festival, where many of the girls were filmed being brutally raped before being murdered, elderly people (including peace activists), those families living in kibbutzes (hardly the "far-right") who were brutally killed two years ago by those this total dickhead supports, and many of whom who are still in captivity. People are allowed to grieve their relatives and commemorate them without some performative idiot who imagines she's progressive cutting down their tributes. It's disgusting, as is anyone who supports doing that. You don't like the ribbons and don't want to think about what they represent? Then ignore them. You don't fucking cut down those tributes. That is an act of pure hatred. And yes, that act makes her an anti-semite, as is anyone who chooses to cheer that on.

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Very well said.

sabababa · 07/10/2025 22:16

ThatCyanCat · 07/10/2025 22:09

I know the map well enough to follow (and to know what "from the river to the sea" means). But I've always wondered why Egypt and Jordan never offered or were willing to reabsorb the land and its inhabitants after the war was over, especially as they then made peace with Israel quite quickly.

This is the answer I was hoping not to get, but thought I probably would...

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Jordan annexed the WB in 1948 and, to their credit, gave all residents Jordanian citizenship. After 1967, they relinquished their claim to the WB and stopped giving citizenship to WB residents.
Gaza was another issue. Actually when Israel gave the Sinai back to Egypt, they wanted to give Gaza to but Sadat refused. He was a smart guy!

Lifecanbebeautiful12 · 07/10/2025 22:18

Ayoopkid · 07/10/2025 21:35

I’m a refugee from Yemen. Left everything behind, our home, belongings, livestock, anything that couldn’t fit into a cloth bag or our body. Even if I wanted to go back, to show my children where I lived, I can’t. They don’t allow Jews there. I came to England, learned English, watched my parents work themselves to death to pay for my education. I’ve fully assimilated into British culture and I never tell anyone I’m Jewish because I’m terrified about what they did to us in San’aa. Luckily I’m brown skinned and speak Arabic so it makes life a lot easier for me. I can be whoever I want to make myself feel accepted. Trust me, Palestinians (actually they are Egyptian and Jordanian, and even the barbaric primitive Yemens I use to live with think they are too dangerous to accept, and I’m talking about Yemen!!!! ) are not refugees from Gaza or Israel. The true original Arabs who lived in the Ottoman Empire now live as citizens in Taybe, Tira, Haifa, Akko, Jaffa alongside their Jewish and Christian brothers. The ones who call themselves Palestinians are actually Jordanians Egyptians and some Syrians who decided to become refugees because they thought their country would get rid of the Jews in the 50’s. Even their surnames show you where they originate!
I am so bewildered at things I’m reading here, I thought Brits were educated, open minded, intelligent. It seems they too can be indoctrinated and manipulated. It’s a shame, because you really really do not want to go the same way as Lebanon and Iran and Yemen.

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This is completely infactual. Gazans are ethnically Palestinian. Egypt administered the Gaza Strip after 1948 - this does not make Gazans Egyptian and they were not even given Egyptian citizenship. Are you really trying to claim that it is the Gazans who have moved to a land they were not living in before and have no ethnic ties to rather than the Jewish settlers from Europe? Incredible level of gaslighting. The Palestinians living in the areas you speak of were pushed out of their homes into the Gaza Strip as refugees. Unbelievable that you are so confidently claiming that those in Gaza are actually Egyptians and Jordanians who chose to become refugees!!

nomas · 07/10/2025 22:19

YellowDaze · 07/10/2025 22:12

You obviously disagree with the pp interpretation. If you can't work out her motivation from facial expressions, go by her actions. What do they tell you?

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Can you explain why you think pp can make that deduction? You seem fine with her but saw fit to accuse me.

Andouillette · 07/10/2025 22:20

hihelenhi · 07/10/2025 17:51

She's married to another Hamas supporter, and yes. Her actions are anti-semitic. Yours is a "some of my best friends are black so I can't be racist" argument.

What this stupid, posh idiot did was despicable, and yes, actively choosing to cut down ribbons that are there to remember specific people who were murdered, raped, brutalised and kidnapped is an active expression of hatred and disdain towards them, their families and those who are mourning them. Do you think those people 'deserved' what happened to them? Try and answer without saying "no, but..." Because that means yes and we all know it does.

How would you respond if Jewish activists in the UK performatively went around cutting down ribbons that were placed by Palestinian and Muslim families to commemorate particular loved ones who had died? Would you call that "freedom fighting" and "resistance" too? Would you go and desecrate the memorials to those who died in 9/11, regardless of your views of the rights and wrongs of the war that followed and feel both good about it and that you were making some stand against oppression?

The reason people are saying the actions of this stupid woman are anti-semitic is because she would almost certainly not be doing it with a smug smile on her face and people would not be whatabouting on this if the victims were anyone other than Jews.

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You are spot on, of course she can be antisemitic. My first husband was the 2nd most racist person I have ever encountered. He despised everybody who wasn't white. The worst thing about it was that he wasn't white himself, though born in the UK his parents were both of Indian extraction by way of East Africa after Partition. He spent his life trying to be as 'British' as possible. It was appalling and one of many reasons I divorced him as soon as humanly possible.

confusedlady10 · 07/10/2025 22:21

sabababa · 07/10/2025 22:12

Sorry, you seem quite confused and you seem to be justifying October 7 and no peace solution. No, peace deals have not meant displacement. And Oslo, while far from perfect, gave palestinians self rule which was meant to lead eventually to a Palestinian state in WB and Gaza. And there were negotiations and compromise. But, yes, indeed israel is here to stay and Palestinians are not going to get 1948 borders back however much they might want it and however many innocent Israelis Hamas might blow up, rape and kill to make sure there won't be peace.
BTW, palestinian terrorism didn't start with hamas. And it didn't start with the occupation in WB and Gaza either.

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Same as the war didn't start on Oct 7. I'm not justifying anything, in fact people up and down this thread were justifying what happened to Palestinians because of Oct 7. I'm simply trying to rubbish everything happening to innocent Palestinians on Hamas alone because again, the war (if you can even call it that at this point) didn't start with them. The peace deals were always meant to "lead" to Palestinians having a fair life. Funny that, very surprising they didn't accept the scraps without free movement after having their land stolen and forced out of their homes.

Linzloopy · 07/10/2025 22:22

confusedlady10 · 07/10/2025 22:08

Because if you read through their points, nowhere have they said ban Jews, rather give Palestinians a fair and equal life...

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So why have virtually all the Jews been driven out of Arab countries, where many hundreds of thousands used to live, with families having been there for hundreds of years?

Yet some people have the nerve to call Israel, which has a 20% Arab population and Arab MPs, judges, etc., an apartheid state! (Easy not to be an apartheid state when you don't allow "others" to live in your country…)

ThatCyanCat · 07/10/2025 22:25

sabababa · 07/10/2025 22:16

Jordan annexed the WB in 1948 and, to their credit, gave all residents Jordanian citizenship. After 1967, they relinquished their claim to the WB and stopped giving citizenship to WB residents.
Gaza was another issue. Actually when Israel gave the Sinai back to Egypt, they wanted to give Gaza to but Sadat refused. He was a smart guy!

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After 1967, they relinquished their claim to the WB and stopped giving citizenship to WB residents.

Exactly. Why?

To the confused poster:

Tell me in any one of the deals including in 1993 & 1995 (since bringing up Hamas blowing up buses in 90s) where Palestinians benefited in any peace deal apart from what it boils down to which is: "we've taken your land so put up or shut up and be grateful for what we give you and that you're alive."

They benefit by an end to the war, the removal of the murderous bastards who brought it on everyone, and enough stability to start rebuilding and beginning a longer term solution; the deal is the start of the process, not the end of it.

Hamas decided to settle this by going to war, well, there are consequences to losing wars. If you think it's a genocide, but you don't think stopping the genocide is enough benefit to having the evil ruinous overlords admit defeat, well, I don't really know what will convince you. Hamas don't give a shit about Gazans and their only mission is to destroy Israel and the Jews, with as many dead Palestinians as they can exploit. Preferring to continue a supposed genocide to having these evil death cultists admit they lost, return their abused hostages or what's left of them and then fuck off is a strange choice to say the least, but it sure is popular.

confusedlady10 · 07/10/2025 22:26

Linzloopy · 07/10/2025 22:22

So why have virtually all the Jews been driven out of Arab countries, where many hundreds of thousands used to live, with families having been there for hundreds of years?

Yet some people have the nerve to call Israel, which has a 20% Arab population and Arab MPs, judges, etc., an apartheid state! (Easy not to be an apartheid state when you don't allow "others" to live in your country…)

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Driven out and taking someone else's land overthrowing them with power and weaponry is what has been done. Does it mean they deserve a better life? At no point has that person said Jews need to be banned. Wanting a better life for innocent Palestinians and for them to be treated fairly is not the same.

AHickyFromKenickie · 07/10/2025 22:27

FigTreeInEurope · 07/10/2025 20:15

I wonder if humanity will ever grow out of religion?

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I hope so, I really do. Just endless arguments, disagreement, war and death…

BloominNora · 07/10/2025 22:29

sabababa · 07/10/2025 20:18

Shame it is historically inaccurate.

And no, there is no not depravity, hatred or supremacy "rampant" in israeli society. And it hasn't been "unleashed" on palestinians for 76 years. You clearly know nothing about Israeli society. I doubt you've actually read any socilogical studies on Israel or spent any time in Israel.

Israeli society is no more depraved, hateful or "supremacist" than any other. I mean, there are 2 million Arab citizens of Israel - are they part of this depravity? Or is it reserved for the Jewish citizens?

I mean, I could find lots of examples of Arab depravity (Yemen, Syria, Lebanon, Sudan, Iraq and Palestinian) but I wouldn't dream of being so racist as to describe Arab society in such words.

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I have formed my opinion from what I have read in trying to understand this conflict (even before 07/10), it's complex with very strong views on all sides. I have looked at a mix of Jewish, Israeli, Arab, Palestinian and western sources - I always try to determine who the author is to understand what biases (because everyone has them - me and you included).

I have read some historians who say that views on the Haganah's role and power was mixed, perhaps within Palastinian circles conflating various paramilitary groups and labelling all of them as Haganah, whereas others are clear that Haganah either led or sanctioned much of what happened between 1944 and 1948.

I linked to the Jewish Virtual Library because it is available online, unlike many books and journals and is clear about Haganah's role in sabotage and attacks, even though it celebrates them and Haganah's members as heroic.

If you think what I said or the links I posted are inaccurate, say why and provide sources with a differing view point rather than just throwing accusations of inaccuracy out there.

I am not dogmatic in my thinking about this and am more than happy to look at other views and sources that add to my understanding about the whole thing and am open to changing my mind if the evidence is enough to sway me.

However, if you are just saying it is inaccurate because you don't like it and it doesn't align with your world view, then that's a you problem, but at least have the bravery and honesty to admit it.

Nobody will ever have a total grasp of the history of the Palestine / Israel conflict - it's too vast and there are far too many nuances, but trying to understand the history of it all, in a factual, non-biased way, has to be part of the solution.

Wakeuplittlebunnies · 07/10/2025 22:30

The Jews left or were incentivised to leave by Isreal.

My MIL lived in a Jewish area of Morocco and in the 60’s she said the town emptied they had moved to Israel they were promised nice houses and a better life. These were Jews who had lived in Morocco for hundreds of years.

Let’s not forget the bombings by midday and other agencies to encourage Arab Jews to leave their countries and come to Israel.

1950–1951 Baghdad bombings

The 1950–1951 Baghdad bombings were a series of bombings of Jewish targets in Baghdad, Iraq, between April 1950 and June 1951. Two activists in the Iraqi Zionist underground were found guilty by an Iraqi court for a number of the bombings, and were sentenced to death.

Also watch the most recent Louis Theroux documentary about the Apartheid in Israel. I’m not sure you’ll be able to defend it.

Weevle84 · 07/10/2025 22:33

AngeloMysterioso · 07/10/2025 10:18

Let’s not pretend that if Israel truly wanted to completely destroy Palestine and kill every living person there, it would have happened by now. They could have done it within a week.

Genocide is what Hamas would do to Israel if they had the means. Their stated aim is to wipe Israel and all Jewish people from the face of the earth.

Hamas continues to seize aid trucks and keep it for themselves or sell it for profit. Hamas continues to refuse peace deals that Israel has already agreed to. Hamas still has not freed the hostages.

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You are completely delusional.

How many independent agencies need to confirm hamas is not blocking or stopping the aid for you to actually believe it? Wake up. Israel are the root of this. Hamas exist because of Israel’s treatment of the Palestinian people. This is their defence.

I don’t agree with what Hamas have done but even more so Israel are to blame.

confusedlady10 · 07/10/2025 22:33

ThatCyanCat · 07/10/2025 22:25

After 1967, they relinquished their claim to the WB and stopped giving citizenship to WB residents.

Exactly. Why?

To the confused poster:

Tell me in any one of the deals including in 1993 & 1995 (since bringing up Hamas blowing up buses in 90s) where Palestinians benefited in any peace deal apart from what it boils down to which is: "we've taken your land so put up or shut up and be grateful for what we give you and that you're alive."

They benefit by an end to the war, the removal of the murderous bastards who brought it on everyone, and enough stability to start rebuilding and beginning a longer term solution; the deal is the start of the process, not the end of it.

Hamas decided to settle this by going to war, well, there are consequences to losing wars. If you think it's a genocide, but you don't think stopping the genocide is enough benefit to having the evil ruinous overlords admit defeat, well, I don't really know what will convince you. Hamas don't give a shit about Gazans and their only mission is to destroy Israel and the Jews, with as many dead Palestinians as they can exploit. Preferring to continue a supposed genocide to having these evil death cultists admit they lost, return their abused hostages or what's left of them and then fuck off is a strange choice to say the least, but it sure is popular.

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I don't need to think about whether it's a "genocide", it's been reported. Again what benefit did they have ever agreeing to any of those peace deals? Why are innocent Palestinians one and the same with Hamas to you? They were elected in 2006 by a 40% vote. And again, the Israeli government had been raping, killing and displacing innocent Palestinians before Hamas came into power.

SpaceRaccoon · 07/10/2025 22:34

Ruby1985 · 07/10/2025 22:04

No one supports Hamas so stop trying to be smart! We don’t support the apartheid state either

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Oh really? This NHS doctor does:

https://x.com/doctorrahmeh/status/1975484031841308841

These students on a British campus do:

https://x.com/HeidiBachram/status/1975563750892613764

These Glasgow Uni students do:

https://x.com/sirwg202110/status/1975543674680582512

This lovely young woman who wants the destruction of Israel and thinks that Israelis come from America:

https://x.com/LBC/status/1975610824715604206

Further afield, these Gazans still think 7 October was a great move:

https://x.com/visegrad24/status/1975330644621131801

Heidi Bachram 🎗️ (@HeidiBachram) on X

Pro-Palestinian students are chanting “Israel is Arab” and “intifada, intifada” on a British campus today. The day that terrorists who want the same things slaughtered my family members and 1200 innocents 2 years ago. These are terror supporters. All...

https://x.com/HeidiBachram/status/1975563750892613764

cupfinalchaos · 07/10/2025 22:35

Her name is Nadia Yahlom. I’d love to think she was just a useful misguided idiot but sadly I think just a vile person.

SpaceRaccoon · 07/10/2025 22:37

Gazans are ethnically Palestinian.

Palestinian is a relatively recent identity. It isn't an ethnicity.

Linzloopy · 07/10/2025 22:52

confusedlady10 · 07/10/2025 22:06

Yes exactly, so before they came in to power the Israeli government were doing the exact same thing as on Oct 7 to innocent Palestinians. And every peace deal has meant more displacement for innocent Palestinians with the Israeli government keeping the borders and majority land. Tell me in any one of the deals including in 1993 & 1995 (since bringing up Hamas blowing up buses in 90s) where Palestinians benefited in any peace deal apart from what it boils down to which is: "we've taken your land so put up or shut up and be grateful for what we give you and that you're alive."

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the Israeli government were doing the exact same thing as on Oct 7 to innocent Palestinians

Complete lie.

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