To be utterly disgusted by the woman cutting down yellow ribbons commemorating the October 7th victims in Muswell Hill yesterday morning

[AngeloMysterioso]

When Jewish people are being attacked and murdered on their way to synagogue on Yom Kippur

When you literally can’t move or look in any direction without Palestine Palestine Palestine in our faces

On the eve of the anniversary of the worst atrocity committed against Jewish people since the Holocaust, a small, unobtrusive memorial for the victims of that unthinkable, barbaric attack was destroyed yesterday by a despicable woman who turned up with scissors and cut the ribbons down, one by one.

Ribbons for women and girls who were raped and murdered.
Ribbons for babies ripped from their parents’ arms and slaughtered.
Ribbons for men beaten to death.
Ribbons for the hostages still suffering every moment.

And this disgusting individual took it upon herself to come along with a pair of scissors and cut each one away. Her excuse? They “condone genocide”.

Let’s not pretend for a moment that that was her true motivation. It was a revolting demonstration of the antisemitism that has become so shamefully rife in this country that it sickens me.

This woman needs to be named and shamed for the loathsome person she is.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/10/07/woman-filmed-cutting-ribbons-commemorating-israeli-hostages/

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/met-police-woman-ribbons-israel-hostages-london-manchester-synagogue-b1251594.html

https://www.lbc.co.uk/article/woman-filmed-cutting-down-ribbons-commemorating-israeli-hostages-in-north-london-5HjdF2y2/

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15167737/amp/woman-cuts-yellow-ribbons-israeli-hostages-london.html

https://inews.co.uk/news/anger-woman-filmed-cutting-down-ribbons-london-memorial-israeli-hostages-3961369

There will always be an equivalent.

The Pro Palestinian activists don’t appear to be well educated on the whole

Including Greta Thunberg, who mistook an Israeli hostage for a Palestinian:

https://x.com/AvivaKlompas/status/1975620028981752015

Shame it is historically inaccurate.

And no, there is no not depravity, hatred or supremacy "rampant" in israeli society. And it hasn't been "unleashed" on palestinians for 76 years. You clearly know nothing about Israeli society. I doubt you've actually read any socilogical studies on Israel or spent any time in Israel.

Israeli society is no more depraved, hateful or "supremacist" than any other. I mean, there are 2 million Arab citizens of Israel - are they part of this depravity? Or is it reserved for the Jewish citizens?

I mean, I could find lots of examples of Arab depravity (Yemen, Syria, Lebanon, Sudan, Iraq and Palestinian) but I wouldn't dream of being so racist as to describe Arab society in such words.

You're probably right, but the way we're going, there won't be an always.

I think today proves a point. That the people who go on these marches have no self awareness, and definitely lack any intelligence. It’s October 7th. The anniversary of the terrible deaths and torture inflicted on young people attending a music festival by Hamas. But yet again, the terrorist sympathisers make it all about them. Having their marches on a day which has no relevance to them. They can’t bear the focus to be on the Israeli victims. When a peace deal happens, which is very close, what will these people do with their time when marches are no longer relevant.

Being patronising adds nothing to the point you are making. In fact it often makes people take you less seriously.

I think you will find that most people who have a lot to say about Israel are just disgusted with the actions of those in power in Israel.

I can’t understand why people can’t be normal about Israel/ Palestine.

October 7 attacks and ongoing hostage situation- awful
Genocide of equally innocent Palestinians in Gaze - horrendous

Attack on a Synagogue- horrific
Antisemitism and Islamophobia- both absolutely abhorrent in all forms
Government arresting peaceful protestors - and affront to freedom of speech/ right to protest
Cutting down memorial ribbons - appalling

Israel does not equal all Jews
Israeli govt isn’t all Israelis, never mind all Jews
Hamas is not all Palestinians, and certainly not all Muslims

Can we not just judge each action on its own merits?

Exactly!! Why today? I guess it was to celebrate "Resistance by any means"

@FigTreeInEurope I hope never to grow out of faith.
There’s a difference between faith and religion. I could follow religion but I prefer not to. This allows me much peace, and gratitude. I wouldn’t like it any other way 😊

We can only hope!

"What are you even talking about" is actually very patronizing so I answered in kind.
And again, your reading comprehension is lacking. I didn't say people who have things to say about Israel are necessarily anti semites but that anti semites usally have A LOT to say about Israel. As we have seen on this thread.

BTW, if you have a a lot to say ONLY about israel, maybe ask yourself why?

Ah yes. Because Hamas are such a moral regime. Use their people as human shields. Steal and intercept aid. Fat cat leaders live thousands of miles away from their ‘people’ sat safely with their billions. Didn’t just kidnap on 7th October, but tortured and raped. I’m guessing that when the remaining hostages are released we will find out how depraved and evil they really are - most of us know, but it will maybe sink in with their apologists.

The 'what will they do when a peace deal happens' shows your misunderstanding of the situation. A peace deal is a massive improvement on genocide, but it's not going to resolve the issues here. That can only be resolved when there is a fully independent Palestinian state, which has control over its own borders, coast, airspace.

A place which Israel doesn't bomb whenever it fancies.

A place where Israel can't control what the Palestinians eat, where they go, even whether their kids are allowed to eat chocolate.

The West Bank free of Israeli settlements and checkpoints.

The apartheid system currently in place dismantled.

Those held without charge in Israeli prisons returned (especially the children).

The option of a review for the thousands convicted before military courts that have a 99% conviction rate.

An independent investigation into war crimes committed during war, and those with arrest warrants being extradited to face trial.

Justice for the tens of thousands of Palestinians killed or injured by settlers whilst the police and IDF either look away or assist them.

That's what needs resolving. It's a bit more than Trump's 20 point plan.

For a number of reasons.

One. Jews. Sorry, but history shows people generally can't be normal about Jews. This is on the far right and the far left who bizarrely seem to meet in the middle with antisemitism.

Two. Nice for some Muslim communities (not all but most) to have a rallying point that brings all the ummah together. Makes life seem a lot more straightforward and able to ignore all the abuses in the Muslim word. That's why they demonize Israel.

And, yes, this then gets tied up with wider current such as anti-immigrant sentiment etc

That's quite the sweeping assertion.

How are you distinguishing between people disgusted with Israel and sympathetic to the suffering of the Palestinian people; and people you seem to be anti-Semitic?

I think the reason that Palestine/ Israel is so high profile is because
a) the British government's actions in the past have caused much if the current conflict
b) Israel seeks a high level of visibility on the international stage and has extensive lobbying activities in the UK which has contributed to the sense of outrage that for a very long time opposing the actions of Israel left to accusations of anti-Semitism that could seriously affect people's lives.

Other conflicts that people cite in their 'whataboutery' posts are less intertwined with UK history and do not involve countries trying to court validation by the UK as well as the wider world as a democratic, rights respecting country.

And don't bother with the thinly veiled accusation that opposing is real makes me anti-Semitic... That little bit of gaslighting has had its day.

Bit of a shame that the Palestinians turned down Olmet's offer of a Palestinian State isn't it? And all the ones that went before it (since they weren't prepared to copromise on refugees)

And the things that need to happen for there to be a Palestinian state involve the Palestinians doing boring things like setting up state insitutions. Not quite as exciting a thing to march for as "From the river to the sea"

And of course it's need to be certain it doesn't become a puppet of Iran like Lebanon and Syria. Also a bit of a boring thing to march for.

And, btw, a lot of Palestinians (and their supporters) don't want a state in the 1967 borders. They want it all.

There are 22 new settlements planned. There is no 'peace plan'
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c1j5954edlno

Any lip service promoting 'peace' is a farce when the long term goal has always been obvious 🤷‍♀️

No, there is no such thing as 100% fact, only the ‘facts’ that each side chooses to emphasise. I would have thought that anyone with an ounce of intelligence could see that.

So you are going to load this shopping list as high as you can, as you know a good 20% of that will never happen. Then I guess no one will have a reason to pause their anti semitism….

If Israel were to pay compensation then Hamas should too. Loss of life is loss of life. They should also pay for the costs of securing the region, and a back dated bill for the food, water and energy the Israeli tax payers currently cover, and have done for decades.

Whilst I agree that the Palestinians need to be in control of their country, trade etc - that can only be done with a proper government in place working for the people, and not a bunch of terrorists holed up underground plotting their next attack.

Whilst it is fair to say Israel shouldn’t bomb - nor should the new government that will go on to run the country that will become a recognised nation. It has never been a full nation before. The Palestinians also have to cease all atrocities and welcome the agreement.

Perhaps they could also return the tortured hostages you have omitted to mention?

Do you see everything as anti-semitic?

I haven’t contorted anything at all, and would say that in fact you have. In the context of this conflict how can Fuck Israel or Fuck Jews be definitely about (to use a common hyperbole) “wiping them off the face of the earth” and Fuck Hamas mean quite a mild swear word? Nobody believes that, you don’t believe it, and neither do I.

I get that you don’t want to be personally responsible, for doing the “Fucking” but killing HAMAS members and supporters is something you see as good.

Britain isn't responsible for the conflcit between Palestine and Israel. They did their best when given the mandate. You may as well blame the Turks. The Brits wanted out and left in 1948.
Britain is just as responsible by this logic for Sudan.

But good you recognise that Israel is a democratic rights respecting country .In other words, you feel that you can actually effect some change in Israel rather than because what's happening in Gaza is the worst thing that is happening in the world. So protesting the UAE's role in Sudan is meaningless since you kow the UAE doens't give a shit what you think. Fair enough.

However, this makes absolutely no sense and sounds very conspiracy theory /corbynite like:
b) Israel seeks a high level of visibility on the international stage and has extensive lobbying activities in the UK which has contributed to the sense of outrage that for a very long time opposing the actions of Israel left to accusations of anti-Semitism that could seriously affect people's live

That is absolutely untrue. Many people can oppose the actions of israel and are not accused of anti semitism. indeed, many Israelis oppose the actions of Israel

‘Every accusation by Israel is a confession’. Israel have done all of that and more. ‘Using their people as human shields’ is a lie to justify bombing hospitals and schools and killing civilians BTW. Which I’m sure you very well know.

I am not at all saying Hamas is a moral anything, but Israel and the IDF are a damn sight worse.

The rewriting and the whitewashing are astonishing to me. AS IF all of the existing settlements would have been evacuated. The 'offer' was never, ever going to be a reality.

www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g0dv7rxxvo

Could say the same about the narrative that was pushed by the Israeli government and media.