To be utterly disgusted by the woman cutting down yellow ribbons commemorating the October 7th victims in Muswell Hill yesterday morning

[AngeloMysterioso]

When Jewish people are being attacked and murdered on their way to synagogue on Yom Kippur

When you literally can’t move or look in any direction without Palestine Palestine Palestine in our faces

On the eve of the anniversary of the worst atrocity committed against Jewish people since the Holocaust, a small, unobtrusive memorial for the victims of that unthinkable, barbaric attack was destroyed yesterday by a despicable woman who turned up with scissors and cut the ribbons down, one by one.

Ribbons for women and girls who were raped and murdered.
Ribbons for babies ripped from their parents’ arms and slaughtered.
Ribbons for men beaten to death.
Ribbons for the hostages still suffering every moment.

And this disgusting individual took it upon herself to come along with a pair of scissors and cut each one away. Her excuse? They “condone genocide”.

Let’s not pretend for a moment that that was her true motivation. It was a revolting demonstration of the antisemitism that has become so shamefully rife in this country that it sickens me.

This woman needs to be named and shamed for the loathsome person she is.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/10/07/woman-filmed-cutting-ribbons-commemorating-israeli-hostages/

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/met-police-woman-ribbons-israel-hostages-london-manchester-synagogue-b1251594.html

https://www.lbc.co.uk/article/woman-filmed-cutting-down-ribbons-commemorating-israeli-hostages-in-north-london-5HjdF2y2/

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15167737/amp/woman-cuts-yellow-ribbons-israeli-hostages-london.html

https://inews.co.uk/news/anger-woman-filmed-cutting-down-ribbons-london-memorial-israeli-hostages-3961369

I think our hate crime laws are drawn too broadly, but given our laws I think this clearly fits the bill.

It’s clearly a crime (criminal damage). It’s also fairly clearly “motivated (wholly or partly) by hostility towards members of a racial or religious group”. The idea that it was wholly motivated by objection to genocide isn’t convincing in relation to memorials for those killed/taken hostage before Israel’s current offensive.

Yes but the fact is that anti semities are drawn to israel the way that flies are drawn to shit. You can't ignore that Israel is the only Jewish state and most Israelis are Jewish.

I am not sure the example of Jewish activists cutting ribbons placed by muslim families work as they are reporting this woman to be Jewish.

I do think it can still be an anti-semitic (or rather anti-Israeli act) but it appears this woman is also Jewish too.

Much of my family were refugees and displaced. Grandparens on my side, my father in law on my husband's, although he was a baby so really his grandparents. 1920s through 1940s. Guess what? They didn't become terrorists and kill innocent civilians.

How much displacement was there in the 1940s? How many hundreds of millions of refugees?

Why is it only the Palestinians are refugees in perpetuity? Whose refugee status never ends (literally, they have a different legal definition to any other refugee covered by the 1951 convention which does not apply to palestinian refugees)? Who have their very own refugee agency (UNRWA) while all the other refugees of the world only have UNHCR?

You literally said it’s Palestinians fault for voting in Hamas…? And ‘regarding themselves as perpetual refugees’ is incredible. It shows you have a very limited understanding and education of this issue.

wouldn't say some of the criticism strays into antisemitism, some of it is fuelled by it and is front and centre classic anti semitism described as "anti zionism"

wouldn't say some of the criticism strays into antisemitism, some of it is fuelled by it and is front and centre classic anti semitism described as "anti zionism"

No that is not reasoning shameful that you are making a justification

I agree that this is the case. But on this thread and elsewhere people are repeatedly being called antisemites simply and only because they oppose the actions of the Israeli govt and army.

@Lifecanbebeautiful12 Jews have been persecuted and thrown out of their homelands for millennia. Hence why there are fewer than 16 million left worldwide.

And yet Hamas is such a raging threat to the destruction of Israel you are willing taking your children to a country in their supposed direct line of sight for wiping out,if the OP position is to be accepted.

To willing move them to a country that is currently being called out at every point possible for war crimes, breaches of international law and over seeing a genocide.

Maybe if the Israeli government to face the consequences of their actions from those they govern over they may actually take time to reflect on their vile behaviour.

I think it is more the arrogance of the Israeli government and their belief in the right to under take ethnic cleansing with no consequences that actually creates the attitude that is a safer haven.

I'm really surprised you don't think she looked smug.

How did you read her emotions, as shown through her facial expressions? What do you think they suggest she was feeling?

To me, smug was definitely there in the mix. Also defiance and hostility. Overall, a great sense of being puffed up with a sense of self-righteousness and a cast-iron conviction of being 'right' that only the relatively young and inexperienced can manage to maintain.

I feel a visceral sense of disgust when I look at the expressions on her face. The emotions betrayed thereon are ugly. They match her actions.

May life teach her more compassion, humility and wisdom going forward.

Thing is, a crime might not have been committed. I remember some Islamists Poppy burning a while ago, if I remember rightly, no crime was committed. As distasteful an action might be, doesn't mean its illegal. I think this women deserves for everyone to know her name and face though. In the same was the dentist who shot that lion became 'famous'.
One problem though, I think this women will be a hero by sections of society and probably those around her.

Riddle me this then. How does an UNRWA Palestine refugee lose their refugee status?

For UNHCR refugees it's in one of 3 ways:

1. Voluntary repatriation
2. Local integration (usually through permanent residency/citizenship)
3. Resettlement

Which one of these applies to Palestine refugees?

(I know you don't know so I'lll give you the answer. None. They can become citizens of another country e.g. Jordan and still be refugees, they can live in Palestine and still be Palestine refugees which is totally absud - in fact they can live in ISRAEL as in Shuafat refugee camp which is just really a suburb of Jerusalem and become Israeli citizens and still be Palestine refugees)

Why are Palestine refugees different to all other refugees?

Have you not watched the whole video? She absolutely is smug. She is cutting down the ribbons that are there to commemorate specific individuals who were killed or kidnapped by Hamas and telling those filming that they were "genocide supporters". As such, she is acting as a Hamas schill. And it's not the first time stupid, wealthy UK individuals who imagine they're being "edgy liberals" have been filmed doing the same (and yes, often with inane grins on their faces when they're challenged, like creepy Manson girls). No doubt this prat imagines she's some kind of "freedom fighter" (a bit like those on London's streets who celebrated and cheered the massacre of easily-targeted liberal Jews as being an "act of resistance"the day after the it happened.)

Fine, people can remain in total denial about what's going on here. You can 100% condemn Netanyahu's excessive acts of retribution in Gaza (the man's a racist psycho, imo) without making pathetic excuses for a posh, virulent antisemite and her performative, spiteful and vindictive behaviour in the UK targeted at the HOSTAGES, at the targets of Oct 7 itself, at the Jewish people who were killed so horrifically and those who care about them. As a reminder, these included young people at a PEACE festival, where many of the girls were filmed being brutally raped before being murdered, elderly people (including peace activists), those families living in kibbutzes (hardly the "far-right") who were brutally killed two years ago by those this total dickhead supports, and many of whom who are still in captivity. People are allowed to grieve their relatives and commemorate them without some performative idiot who imagines she's progressive cutting down their tributes. It's disgusting, as is anyone who supports doing that. You don't like the ribbons and don't want to think about what they represent? Then ignore them. You don't fucking cut down those tributes. That is an act of pure hatred. And yes, that act makes her an anti-semite, as is anyone who chooses to cheer that on.

It’s simple, people were murdered, some were taken hostage, commerating that in no way diminishes the loss of life in Gaza. The only reason to take them down is because you dehumanise Jews imo. If someone put up something to commemorate Gazan lives lost and it was torn down I would think the same.

I would also say 14 brits died in that attack, Brits were taken hostage. There will be British Jews who will be affected because family members in Israel have been harmed. Similarly there will be british people with family in Gaza who have lost loved ones. People should be allowed to grieve peacefully. Ribbons are not offensive in any way.

As to fuck Hamas well yes, fuck them, they murdered children in an attack on a clan just the other day, they’ve been shooting people in the legs, they terrorise Palestinians and have brought nothing but failure and misery to their own people. Fuck them.

You might find that the Holocaust was a bit traumatic for Jews too. If you'd had 6 million of your people hunted down and wiped out, you also might want be a little concerned that you're gonna be next.

She may be part -Jewish (she is described as Palestinian-Jewish) but she condones the violence,and is married to an anti-semite. So, again, this is a "lots of my friends are black" argument. It doesn't mean that what she's doing isn't anti-semitic. Or absolve those who are making excuses for her.

So you don't think there may be people who fear that the hostages might be forgotten about without a.gentle reminder of their plight? That it might cause offence,/disruption to different communities living close together' to be reminded there are surviving hostages suffering horribly?

Those yellow ribbons are for the young man, for example, taken prisoner by Hamas on a bright October day and kept underground in the dark for two years.They feed him irregularly and seem.to be starving him to death. You can see his.rib cage , his collar bone, his arms his cheekbones - all stripped of flesh. In his.suffocating cell he is made to dig his own grave. And then he looks at it

If the members of your multicultural communities object to a yellow ribbon for him, and for the rest of the hostages who are suffering whatever torture Hamas dreams up, then surely they are not worth listening to? Because ribbons in these circumstances
are.personal not political , but personal.

@sabababa I think you’ll find that this supports my claim about Netanyahu and hamas
https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/
All of your claims are very much open for debate.

I think he problem is that the people protesting the genocide in Palestine are sick of their viewpoint in this being conflated with anti-Semitism.

I think you are probably feeling the same thing... That the yellow ribbons you see as a heartfelt tribute to those suffering are being misconstrued as a symbol of hatred towards Palestinians or Muslims.

It is absolutely fine that you want to be able to make this gesture without being accused of hatred of anyone. But this is also what the Pro Palestine protestors want. (I know there is always a bad egg, but this is certainly also the case amongst those supporting Israel).

That level of understanding goes both ways, being Jewish and using gesture to grieve the death of Jewish people in this conflict should not be conflated with supporting the actions of BN or being antiIslamic.

Similarly, if you want this you need to apply the same logic and understand that those who are horrified by the actions of the Israeli government against the people of Palestine and protest for the world's governments to intervene, should not be conflated with anti-Semitism.

Are you insinuating that Hamas have more means and influence to exert such successful propaganda over the entire world than Israel?

I do think that Hamas and their backers have been all over the propaganda game on this one, yes. They've beaten Israel hands down on that front.
Mind you they've had the huge advantage of many people being keen to believe the very worst possible of Israelis, for some strange reason.

I don’t know what she was feeling, I’m not a mind reader. But she didn’t respond to repeatedly being called disgusting, so I don’t think she was smug.

That’s why what the Jews have inflicted on Palestinians is so incomprehensible.

Both of those memorials are in the the countries the events took place in.
Yellow ribbons in Israel are fair enough.