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To be utterly disgusted by the woman cutting down yellow ribbons commemorating the October 7th victims in Muswell Hill yesterday morning

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AngeloMysterioso · 07/10/2025 09:43

When Jewish people are being attacked and murdered on their way to synagogue on Yom Kippur

When you literally can’t move or look in any direction without Palestine Palestine Palestine in our faces

On the eve of the anniversary of the worst atrocity committed against Jewish people since the Holocaust, a small, unobtrusive memorial for the victims of that unthinkable, barbaric attack was destroyed yesterday by a despicable woman who turned up with scissors and cut the ribbons down, one by one.

Ribbons for women and girls who were raped and murdered.
Ribbons for babies ripped from their parents’ arms and slaughtered.
Ribbons for men beaten to death.
Ribbons for the hostages still suffering every moment.

And this disgusting individual took it upon herself to come along with a pair of scissors and cut each one away. Her excuse? They “condone genocide”.

Let’s not pretend for a moment that that was her true motivation. It was a revolting demonstration of the antisemitism that has become so shamefully rife in this country that it sickens me.

This woman needs to be named and shamed for the loathsome person she is.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/10/07/woman-filmed-cutting-ribbons-commemorating-israeli-hostages/

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/met-police-woman-ribbons-israel-hostages-london-manchester-synagogue-b1251594.html

https://www.lbc.co.uk/article/woman-filmed-cutting-down-ribbons-commemorating-israeli-hostages-in-north-london-5HjdF2y2/

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15167737/amp/woman-cuts-yellow-ribbons-israeli-hostages-london.html

https://inews.co.uk/news/anger-woman-filmed-cutting-down-ribbons-london-memorial-israeli-hostages-3961369

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nomas · 07/10/2025 14:57

freakingscared · 07/10/2025 14:55

Not with the same intend he said it as co existing , Palestinians use it as to end Israel existence .

No, he didn't say it about co-existing.

Nestingbirds · 07/10/2025 14:57

WeeGeeBored · 07/10/2025 14:53

For me it is not Jewish hate as such, but I will not support any action that prioritises the plight of the Jewish victims of October 7th over the decimation of Gaza. I just can’t/won’t do it.

To me, those ribbons do just that. They suggest that 1 Jewish life is worth more than thousands of Palestinian lives. Sorry.

You should be sorry. It is not a competition. By acknowledging the death of an innocent child does not discount the deaths of others. Seriously it is messed up if you cannot see they are both wrong, they are both a tragedy and it needs to stop.

nomas · 07/10/2025 14:58

sabababa · 07/10/2025 14:55

Why are there no march FOR accepting the peace plan? I'd totally join that! Not anti israel, not anti Palestinne but pro peace!
I mean, wouldn't that be the best way to end the "genocide"?
I guess the slogans wouldn't be quite as catchy, no from the river to the sea or there is only one solution...intifada, revolution.

Honestly, I'm not saying that there haven't been war crimes in Gaza but I've never heard of a genocide when those apparently being genocided don't accept an offer for said genocide to end.

Why don't you organise one? I'll join.

freakingscared · 07/10/2025 14:59

WeeGeeBored · 07/10/2025 14:53

For me it is not Jewish hate as such, but I will not support any action that prioritises the plight of the Jewish victims of October 7th over the decimation of Gaza. I just can’t/won’t do it.

To me, those ribbons do just that. They suggest that 1 Jewish life is worth more than thousands of Palestinian lives. Sorry.

Children aside , can we all be adults here and actually accept some life’s are worth more than others ? Nationality aside too as I’m sure there are good people on both sides and bad people on both sides , but do you really think the life’s of terrorists like Hamas have the same worth of yours or mine ? Or your partner or your parents who I’m assuming are good people and never supported jiadism or any way of terrorism ?

nomas · 07/10/2025 15:00

Nestingbirds · 07/10/2025 14:57

You should be sorry. It is not a competition. By acknowledging the death of an innocent child does not discount the deaths of others. Seriously it is messed up if you cannot see they are both wrong, they are both a tragedy and it needs to stop.

I don't think you've an acknowledged a single Palestinian death in all your posts.

sabababa · 07/10/2025 15:01

freakingscared · 07/10/2025 14:55

Not with the same intend he said it as co existing , Palestinians use it as to end Israel existence .

To be fair, Netanyahu has not annexed the WB, did not go into Gaza until the atrocties of 7/10. While he hasn't wanted a Palestinian state, he hasn't extended Israeli sovereignty into the WB. He always wanted to just continue the status quo as it was (and that came back to bite him - and all of Israel - massively)

vitalityvix · 07/10/2025 15:03

Removing the ribbons is obviously unpleasant, but when did it become such a ‘thing’ to plaster this stuff all over public property?

England flags, Palestine flags, ribbons, posters etc. If people want to display them on their own property - fine. If people want to display them out in public, don’t be surprised if they are removed by someone who disagrees.

nomas · 07/10/2025 15:03

freakingscared · 07/10/2025 14:59

Children aside , can we all be adults here and actually accept some life’s are worth more than others ? Nationality aside too as I’m sure there are good people on both sides and bad people on both sides , but do you really think the life’s of terrorists like Hamas have the same worth of yours or mine ? Or your partner or your parents who I’m assuming are good people and never supported jiadism or any way of terrorism ?

can we all be adults here and actually accept some life’s are worth more than others

Wow, just wow. You're saying all Palestinian adult lives are worthless, because you only discounted the children.

I've seen some horrible things on these forums but yours is one of the worst posts.

ThatCyanCat · 07/10/2025 15:03

WeeGeeBored · 07/10/2025 14:53

For me it is not Jewish hate as such, but I will not support any action that prioritises the plight of the Jewish victims of October 7th over the decimation of Gaza. I just can’t/won’t do it.

To me, those ribbons do just that. They suggest that 1 Jewish life is worth more than thousands of Palestinian lives. Sorry.

To me, those ribbons do just that. They suggest that 1 Jewish life is worth more than thousands of Palestinian lives.

That's entirely on you. Thanks for the insight, as if more were needed, as to why none of the people who claim to support the Palestinians actually want to implement the peace plan that would make them safe and free them from the Hamas rulers who want them to die so they can exploit their deaths.

"We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are." - Anais Nin

Nestingbirds · 07/10/2025 15:04

nomas · 07/10/2025 15:00

I don't think you've an acknowledged a single Palestinian death in all your posts.

Of course I have what a silly post. I have said every death is awful. I hope for the rebuilding of Palestine, a brand new future, one where they are secure and internationally recognised. I do not agree with the loss of life at all. I believe a two state solution has to work for Palestine.

sabababa · 07/10/2025 15:04

nomas · 07/10/2025 14:58

Why don't you organise one? I'll join.

I would too. But I'm afraid I'm not an organizer....

And in the same vein, I think it'd be good to also hear from the peacemakers on both sides. The ones who reach out across the divide. The ones prepared for compromise. They are there but they are drowned out! Those are the voices we should be amplifying in this age of social media and soundbites.

PardonMeNot · 07/10/2025 15:04

Namechang44 · 07/10/2025 10:12

It is disgusting and I do hope you’re just as outraged with the starvation and genocide, ethnic cleaning of tens of thousands of civilians?

💯. The moral high ground was lost with the events that followed. Let us not ignore the elephant in the room.

wineosaurusrex · 07/10/2025 15:07

"When you literally can’t move or look in any direction without Palestine Palestine Palestine in our faces"

Protesting against a horrific genocide is not antisemetic.

wineosaurusrex · 07/10/2025 15:08

PardonMeNot · 07/10/2025 15:04

💯. The moral high ground was lost with the events that followed. Let us not ignore the elephant in the room.

Edited

Exactly this.

Nestingbirds · 07/10/2025 15:08

PardonMeNot · 07/10/2025 15:04

💯. The moral high ground was lost with the events that followed. Let us not ignore the elephant in the room.

Edited

Would you expect Israel to just do nothing about the slaughter of thousands of their innocent civilians and the hostages being tortured as we speak?

Linzloopy · 07/10/2025 15:08

WeeGeeBored · 07/10/2025 14:53

For me it is not Jewish hate as such, but I will not support any action that prioritises the plight of the Jewish victims of October 7th over the decimation of Gaza. I just can’t/won’t do it.

To me, those ribbons do just that. They suggest that 1 Jewish life is worth more than thousands of Palestinian lives. Sorry.

How do the ribbons suggest that? No-one is asking you to do that, so your dramatic declaration is unnecessary.

Commemorating people who were raped, tortured, abducted or murdered does not prevent you or anyone else from caring about suffering Palestinians, any more than your expressions of sympathy for the Palestinians should be interpreted to mean you think they’re more important than the Uighurs or the people of Sudan, where 25 million face acute hunger and over 11 million have been forced from their homes.

Not focusing on every evil in the world doesn’t mean we shouldn’t focus on any of them.

freakingscared · 07/10/2025 15:10

nomas · 07/10/2025 15:03

can we all be adults here and actually accept some life’s are worth more than others

Wow, just wow. You're saying all Palestinian adult lives are worthless, because you only discounted the children.

I've seen some horrible things on these forums but yours is one of the worst posts.

No , not at all , I’m saying many probably were not good people , not all by all means . So do not try the old gaslighting trick of putting words in my mouth as that is not what I said .
I’m simply saying is many gazans conscience compass is different from mine a most people . Again not all but many .

As a example I saw a few images about Palestine today on Sky , people gathering around , at least 5 newborn children as in less than 3 months , as a adult with a conscience why would you be bringing children to live mid war ? I mean they have been at war 2 years , I’m by no means referring to those babies that were on the way but why would a parent want a child to be born now .Do you see this as lovely parenting from loving people ? Because I don’t . I would never put my children at risk by option .

wineosaurusrex · 07/10/2025 15:11

freakingscared · 07/10/2025 15:10

No , not at all , I’m saying many probably were not good people , not all by all means . So do not try the old gaslighting trick of putting words in my mouth as that is not what I said .
I’m simply saying is many gazans conscience compass is different from mine a most people . Again not all but many .

As a example I saw a few images about Palestine today on Sky , people gathering around , at least 5 newborn children as in less than 3 months , as a adult with a conscience why would you be bringing children to live mid war ? I mean they have been at war 2 years , I’m by no means referring to those babies that were on the way but why would a parent want a child to be born now .Do you see this as lovely parenting from loving people ? Because I don’t . I would never put my children at risk by option .

What you said is sickening. You should be ashamed.

sunflower1022 · 07/10/2025 15:14

That woman is a nasty individual indeed.

People like her (scum) have become so emboldened. How do we stop it?

freakingscared · 07/10/2025 15:14

wineosaurusrex · 07/10/2025 15:11

What you said is sickening. You should be ashamed.

Why ? People get slaughtered on MN if they have a 3rd child without having 4 bedrooms , why me saying people having children mid war is wrong ? Are people from Palestine or anywhere else not expected any criticism on parenting ?

sabababa · 07/10/2025 15:14

wineosaurusrex · 07/10/2025 15:07

"When you literally can’t move or look in any direction without Palestine Palestine Palestine in our faces"

Protesting against a horrific genocide is not antisemetic.

No but one does wonder why Palestine and not Sudan which by all measures is far far wose?
Never saw any demonstration against the UAE which is funding the Rapid Support Force.

Allthatshines1992 · 07/10/2025 15:18

AngeloMysterioso · 07/10/2025 09:43

When Jewish people are being attacked and murdered on their way to synagogue on Yom Kippur

When you literally can’t move or look in any direction without Palestine Palestine Palestine in our faces

On the eve of the anniversary of the worst atrocity committed against Jewish people since the Holocaust, a small, unobtrusive memorial for the victims of that unthinkable, barbaric attack was destroyed yesterday by a despicable woman who turned up with scissors and cut the ribbons down, one by one.

Ribbons for women and girls who were raped and murdered.
Ribbons for babies ripped from their parents’ arms and slaughtered.
Ribbons for men beaten to death.
Ribbons for the hostages still suffering every moment.

And this disgusting individual took it upon herself to come along with a pair of scissors and cut each one away. Her excuse? They “condone genocide”.

Let’s not pretend for a moment that that was her true motivation. It was a revolting demonstration of the antisemitism that has become so shamefully rife in this country that it sickens me.

This woman needs to be named and shamed for the loathsome person she is.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/10/07/woman-filmed-cutting-ribbons-commemorating-israeli-hostages/

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/met-police-woman-ribbons-israel-hostages-london-manchester-synagogue-b1251594.html

https://www.lbc.co.uk/article/woman-filmed-cutting-down-ribbons-commemorating-israeli-hostages-in-north-london-5HjdF2y2/

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15167737/amp/woman-cuts-yellow-ribbons-israeli-hostages-london.html

https://inews.co.uk/news/anger-woman-filmed-cutting-down-ribbons-london-memorial-israeli-hostages-3961369

Whoever cut the ribbons is an idiot. Even if the government of those people condones genocide it doesn't mean the individuals who suffered condones such things and even if they did, they still suffered horrors.

nomas · 07/10/2025 15:19

freakingscared · 07/10/2025 15:10

No , not at all , I’m saying many probably were not good people , not all by all means . So do not try the old gaslighting trick of putting words in my mouth as that is not what I said .
I’m simply saying is many gazans conscience compass is different from mine a most people . Again not all but many .

As a example I saw a few images about Palestine today on Sky , people gathering around , at least 5 newborn children as in less than 3 months , as a adult with a conscience why would you be bringing children to live mid war ? I mean they have been at war 2 years , I’m by no means referring to those babies that were on the way but why would a parent want a child to be born now .Do you see this as lovely parenting from loving people ? Because I don’t . I would never put my children at risk by option .

You literally said that apart from the children, some 'life's' are worth more.

Your agenda is clear for all to see.

Truly sickening and on a par with Hitler.

freakingscared · 07/10/2025 15:23

nomas · 07/10/2025 15:19

You literally said that apart from the children, some 'life's' are worth more.

Your agenda is clear for all to see.

Truly sickening and on a par with Hitler.

I said “Nationality aside too as I’m sure there are good people on both sides and bad people on both sides , but do you really think the life’s of terrorists like Hamas have the same worth of yours or mine ? Or your partner or your parents who I’m assuming are good people and never supported jiadism or any way of terrorism ?”

but yes pretend the rest of the sentence didn’t exist 🙄🙄🙄 . You extreme Palestine supporters really like to plant hate where there isn’t . Or do you like me to agree with you that Hamas supporters are as worthy as anyone else ?

DoYouThinkYouCouldTell · 07/10/2025 15:25

Is arguing blindly on the Internet fixing any of it?
Nobody should be dying, in any war, in any country. The loss of civilian life is always deplorable.
Of course people have strong views, I get it.
It just starts to feel hateful on here sometimes 😕