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Murder

284 replies

Frankblackwife · 07/10/2025 06:49

Do you think you could get away with it?

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ChrisMartinsKisskam · 07/10/2025 14:49

Also you would have to go off grid digital wise especially in developed countries

so no taking phone with you as you could be tracked to exact location
no Texts phone calls messages

so get the old style Nokia 3310

afterwards burn all clothes including shoes socks afterwards and then go swimming ( chlorine gets rid of a lot of stuff 😂

in the uk if I wanted to get rid of someone I would research carbon monoxide poisoning & how it works
or maybe if I really didn’t like them a gas explosion 😂

ChrisMartinsKisskam · 07/10/2025 14:51

MenopauseSucks · 07/10/2025 14:41

I remember reading an interview with the crime author Sue Grafton.
She was going through a bitter & lengthy divorce & as a relief, would imagine how she could murder her ex-husband. She wrote down her ideas & used them in her ‘Alphabet’ series of books.
Despite technology advancing as she was writing, she continued to set her books in the 1980s as murder, private detective & police work were a completely different thing then & far easier to get away with…
Her books are bloody good reads if any crime fiction lovers haven’t come across them & shed some light on how much easier it was to hide the truth 40 years ago…

As for personally killing someone? I don’t think I could kill let alone plot it but yes, deaths by driving seem to be an easy method.

oh I love Sue Grafton books
A for Alibi 😂. Read them all

greglet · 07/10/2025 14:59

@ShodAndShadySenators pmsl at hand-sewn Cossacks.

Dontlletmedownbruce · 07/10/2025 15:03

Putting morality to the side, I'd find being a murderer really stressful! Same with adulterer.

I would however make an excellent spy. I'm generally invisible and people never remember my face and if they do they confuse me with someone else. I have that kind of vaguely pleasant look that people instantly trust me.

PraisebetoGod · 07/10/2025 15:04

Baileysandcream · 07/10/2025 14:45

Isn't there a high risk of CCTV/doorbell/dashcam footage of you walking down the street and entering the internet cafe ...?

Images of you walking into an Internet cafe isn't evidence that you researched murder ideas or whatever though. Plus the police would have to know date time of said excursion to the cafe to go trawling through cctv but even then it proves nothing other than you were in an Internet cafe.

MenopauseSucks · 07/10/2025 15:57

ChrisMartinsKisskam · 07/10/2025 14:51

oh I love Sue Grafton books
A for Alibi 😂. Read them all

And we only got up to Y - very sad.

PinkPanther57 · 07/10/2025 16:07

BumpyWinds · 07/10/2025 14:05

To bring it round to a real life story though, the Claudia Lawrence story, assuming she was killed, is an example of someone having got away with it, because she's never sadly been found.

Would it be easier to investigate & find Claudia & who killed Melanie Hall etc now? I imagine so.

LittleGreenDuck · 07/10/2025 18:09

ChrisMartinsKisskam · 07/10/2025 14:36

Yes
not in the uk to many cameras and nosey bastards

but abroad it would be much easier

years ago I was on holiday in Mexico and a man fell of a cliff and died

no one saw it happen as they had decided to go back to the horse ranch earlier than the rest so we’re on their own walking back

however we had been chatting to him and his wife at the hotel and she let it slip that he had just won a huge payout for a industrial injury and this was a big holiday for them
he was not walking that well and
used a cane so not very stable

the cliff was like a slope that went straight down like a slide and then a sheer drop to the bottom anyone ever saw Rambo where he shoot’s the guy out off thr helicopter- it was like that . They had to take his body out on horse as they couldn’t get transport to it it was that remote

i often wonder if she “pushed “ him to take the money but didn’t really think about it till I got back home
I didn’t see her afterwards as the rope moved her hotel

but if I wanted to kill someone then it would be on holiday away from the uk where the laws are shit and either push them off a cliff or off a boat and get them drunk go for a midnight swim and drown them or maybe take them diving and turn of the air or give them a faulty air bottle
😂
I’ve put some thought into it as you can tell

I really wish this was the other way round so that I could tell my joke.

I'll tell it anyway.

Why did the Mexican push his wife off a cliff?
Tequila!

LittleGreenDuck · 07/10/2025 18:11

@CautiousLurker01 Can I just say that being a Doctor of Murder Mysteries is one of the coolest things I've ever heard.

I'd be a terrible murderer, I'd never get away with it. But then I would say that, wouldn't I...?

ChocolateBoxCottage · 07/10/2025 19:35

I have always told dh to think twice before bending over to pick up £50 / a cheese board / skate board at the top of the stairs. The door to the bathroom is at the top of the stairs....

UnctuousUnicorns · 07/10/2025 19:48

ChocolateBoxCottage · 07/10/2025 19:35

I have always told dh to think twice before bending over to pick up £50 / a cheese board / skate board at the top of the stairs. The door to the bathroom is at the top of the stairs....

Most internal doors in houses open inwards, into the room, though? Front doors tend to open into the house too.

TheRealMagic · 07/10/2025 20:07

PraisebetoGod · 07/10/2025 15:04

Images of you walking into an Internet cafe isn't evidence that you researched murder ideas or whatever though. Plus the police would have to know date time of said excursion to the cafe to go trawling through cctv but even then it proves nothing other than you were in an Internet cafe.

I think a bigger barrier to this one: are internet cafes still even a thing?! I've just googled and in my (large) town the only option seems to be the library, and you have to enter your library card number to use their computers so it isn't anonymous.

ConnieHeart · 07/10/2025 20:11

Frankblackwife · 07/10/2025 07:02

I don't think it would be that hard to push someone off a cliff

But that's the easy part. The police always look at the partner first, then at the rest of the family, then at everyone the victim knew. It's extremely rare to murder someone you don't know

BlueberryLatte · 07/10/2025 20:12

No I couldn't. I wouldn't want to kill anyone and if I did I'd probably fess up immediately.

What is the AIBU btw? I'm sure someone's already asked

everyoldsock · 07/10/2025 20:14

TheRealMagic · 07/10/2025 20:07

I think a bigger barrier to this one: are internet cafes still even a thing?! I've just googled and in my (large) town the only option seems to be the library, and you have to enter your library card number to use their computers so it isn't anonymous.

Yes, they are. In certain parts of the city in the north west like the one I live in, and I saw a few in north London last year. Nowhere near as many as a decade ago but they still exist.

ConnieHeart · 07/10/2025 20:20

PinkPanther57 · 07/10/2025 16:07

Would it be easier to investigate & find Claudia & who killed Melanie Hall etc now? I imagine so.

I'm from the same town as Melanie Hall & used to often go to the same nightclub. I feel that MH was murdered by someone she met in the club. Was the man who kissed her ever traced? Such a shame that her friends left her on her own thinking she was with her boyfriend and vice versa. I always tell my dds never to leave any friends in their own.

I'm very intrigued as to who murdered Jill Dando. Her brother seems to think that she was just in the wrong place at the wrong time as she wasn't due to be back at her house that day. But I'm not so sure. It's almost unheard of for someone, particularly an adult, to be murdered by a stranger, plus it seemed to be so meticulously carried out

PraisebetoGod · 07/10/2025 20:26

TheRealMagic · 07/10/2025 20:07

I think a bigger barrier to this one: are internet cafes still even a thing?! I've just googled and in my (large) town the only option seems to be the library, and you have to enter your library card number to use their computers so it isn't anonymous.

Sunglasses Hiding GIF by Soul Train

I've just googled too, we have two Internet cafes. Plus the library. When I got my library card many years ago I didn't need to present ID. I don't think that's changed. Obviously if you're going to have to resort to the library to get on the Internet to research murder methods, you will need to join under a fake name. Also wear a wig/mustache, you know, it's all in the details... oh and for goodness sakes, please use cash!

Wadadli · 07/10/2025 20:27

Frankblackwife · 07/10/2025 06:49

Do you think you could get away with it?

Only if I had a piggery

menopausalfart · 07/10/2025 20:31

thousands go missing from the UK every year. I imagine quite a few are murdered where the perp is never found. I've heard it's easier to get away with murder if the person is unknown to you.

ChrisMartinsKisskam · 07/10/2025 20:32

ConnieHeart · 07/10/2025 20:20

I'm from the same town as Melanie Hall & used to often go to the same nightclub. I feel that MH was murdered by someone she met in the club. Was the man who kissed her ever traced? Such a shame that her friends left her on her own thinking she was with her boyfriend and vice versa. I always tell my dds never to leave any friends in their own.

I'm very intrigued as to who murdered Jill Dando. Her brother seems to think that she was just in the wrong place at the wrong time as she wasn't due to be back at her house that day. But I'm not so sure. It's almost unheard of for someone, particularly an adult, to be murdered by a stranger, plus it seemed to be so meticulously carried out

If I put my conspiracy hat on I would say the the “establishment “
she was a popular powerful in her own way credible journalists
who was very well liked

I think maybe she had something on the bbc presenters who we now know are sex abusers and she took her suspicions to the wrong people

SalonDesRefuses · 07/10/2025 20:33

TurtleCavalryIsSeriousShit · 07/10/2025 07:01

I think I'm more likely to get away with it because I live in South Africa.

Just recently a tourist here "left his wife to continue her hike" and she fell off a cliff. Pretty sure he purposely chose this country because our police force is a joke.

A few years ago a couple came here on their honeymoon and the man arrange a car highjacking where his wife got killed.

Mind you, the police did manage to figure that one out fairly quickly, but he was an idiot.

If you're clever, I really think you could get away with it here. Sadly.

Edited to add the cliff story is alleged. It's still very recent and no-one has charged the husband with anything

Edited

Sorry, I know I'm being morbidly nosy, but what was the reason given for the man who arranged the car highjacking? They were on their honeymoon! Surely not marrying her would have been the easiest option.

Blahdiblahblahr · 07/10/2025 20:39

My personal theory is there are many murders which go unpunished because people don’t realise they are murders. Deaths look accidental. I reckon it’s fully possible women killing their husbands / male partners is really under-reported because a pillow over the face at night and ‘oh no it was just a heart attack one of those things such a tragedy’. They wouldn’t be performing autopsies on all these fellas.

everyoldsock · 07/10/2025 20:41

menopausalfart · 07/10/2025 20:31

thousands go missing from the UK every year. I imagine quite a few are murdered where the perp is never found. I've heard it's easier to get away with murder if the person is unknown to you.

I agree, there’s probably some proportion of those people who’ve been murdered. But then what do the killers do with the corpses is what I’ve always wondered.

ConnieHeart · 07/10/2025 20:43

ChrisMartinsKisskam · 07/10/2025 20:32

If I put my conspiracy hat on I would say the the “establishment “
she was a popular powerful in her own way credible journalists
who was very well liked

I think maybe she had something on the bbc presenters who we now know are sex abusers and she took her suspicions to the wrong people

Yes, a friend of mine said she'd read that maybe JD was about to expose a story on someone and needed to be silenced. I think someone was paid to assassinate her, so that will be even harder to investigate

TheNightingalesStarling · 07/10/2025 20:43

PraisebetoGod · 07/10/2025 20:26

I've just googled too, we have two Internet cafes. Plus the library. When I got my library card many years ago I didn't need to present ID. I don't think that's changed. Obviously if you're going to have to resort to the library to get on the Internet to research murder methods, you will need to join under a fake name. Also wear a wig/mustache, you know, it's all in the details... oh and for goodness sakes, please use cash!

Now you have a digital footprint for searching for an Internet cafe so the police know where to look....