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Murder

284 replies

Frankblackwife · 07/10/2025 06:49

Do you think you could get away with it?

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steff13 · 07/10/2025 22:42

I thought this was going to be about crows and now I'm sad.

Idstillratherbepaddleboarding · 07/10/2025 22:43

menopausalfart · 07/10/2025 20:54

@Idstillratherbepaddleboarding I once had a dream that I killed Esther Rantzen. I hid her in an airing cupboard. When I woke up, I was convinced for a good 15 minutes that I had done this.

@menopausalfart that’s the most random victim ever!

I’ve had a think and I think your best bet is to have a reasonable excuse of self defence so I’d wait til my victim was chopping vegetables and surprise them so they turn around with a weapon in their hand and then murder them. Then I’d ring the Police and tell them they came at me with a knife and I had to defend myself.

IAmKerplunk · 07/10/2025 22:44

ChrisMartinsKisskam · 07/10/2025 22:40

He was gay I believe but it was an arranged marriage and he has a boyfriend of sorts back in the uk

also she was heavily insured so he stood to inherit a huge amount

his family were quite rich they owned several care homes in the south west
I think she was Indian but born in Sweden and her family were also very wealthy

he was British

he got away with it as he was found not guilty but I think he had a lot to do with it

Edited

Have googled. He was found not guilty. Her family said they accept he didn’t play any part in her death but that he lied about his sexuality.

ChrisMartinsKisskam · 07/10/2025 22:47

IAmKerplunk · 07/10/2025 22:44

Have googled. He was found not guilty. Her family said they accept he didn’t play any part in her death but that he lied about his sexuality.

Yes i edited my post
still think he was guiltily as fuck

PinkPanther57 · 07/10/2025 22:49

ConnieHeart · 07/10/2025 21:31

Yes, in the Crimewatch reconstruction the boyfriend said he saw a guy give her a kiss which is why he left the club. I don't think this guy has ever been traced

Personally I don't think Barry George killed JD. I've seen interviews with the police & they say that they don't think he would be capable of that execution style killing so meticulously carried out

Thanks. Was it carried out meticulously (?) - the evidence doesn’t point to a clean, professional, hit.

IAmKerplunk · 07/10/2025 22:51

ChrisMartinsKisskam · 07/10/2025 22:47

Yes i edited my post
still think he was guiltily as fuck

It all sounds very dodgy!

TheDenimPoet · 07/10/2025 22:58

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Ha, I was going to say exactly this. In one of my first lectures at uni, the lecturer told us this was the best way of killing someone.

Realistically, I don't think I'd be able to get away with it. I watch a lot of true crime documentaries and the ways they find out the truth sometimes is just unreal.

PlaceIntheClouds · 07/10/2025 23:03

If you left your mobile behind and walked a long distance from your house cross country and battered a complete stranger to death on a random public footpath and walked home again then I guess you might get away with it.

However a targeted attack on a known target. Hmm you are probably leaving some kind of evidence trail behind.

Smallsalt · 07/10/2025 23:25

Maybe a complete random. So I, have no motive, no connection, no previous criminal record, probably wear a wig to and from whatever place I did it so that CC tv would be looking for somebody who looked different.

Livelovebehappy · 07/10/2025 23:26

Impossible really. CCTV on most buildings. Blood splatter tell tale signs. DNA. Mobile pinging off nearby buildings so you can’t lie about your whereabouts (unless you leave your phone home). It would be such a chore trying to make sure it was water tight, I don’t think i could be arsed. I’ve been watching the Ed Gein drama on Netflix. It was in the 1950s, and I think you could have probably got away with anything back then. Mind boggling..

Livelovebehappy · 07/10/2025 23:27

PlaceIntheClouds · 07/10/2025 23:03

If you left your mobile behind and walked a long distance from your house cross country and battered a complete stranger to death on a random public footpath and walked home again then I guess you might get away with it.

However a targeted attack on a known target. Hmm you are probably leaving some kind of evidence trail behind.

Too many cctv on random buildings. Unless it was in the middle of nowhere, might be difficult to get away with even in those circumstances.

everyoldsock · 07/10/2025 23:30

I’ve often thought that Myra Hindley and Ian Brady would have got away in the 1960s with killing those four children if it wasn’t for killing their final victim - Edward Evans - and getting Hindley’s BIL involved in the cleaning up of that murder.

Somethingsgottagiveeventually · 07/10/2025 23:45

DH and I were talking about this last night (sort of). Vampires must be really struggling for victims nowadays with CCTV and forensic evidence. Victorian vampires were really living in the golden age! Nowadays they'd have to work in a blood bank and skim some off the side or something in order to survive. But would that be enough? Most predators won't scavenge in the animal world. Could a vampire live off blood bags?

Chickenwing2 · 08/10/2025 00:56

Not impossible at all. Similar to falling down the stairs, any accident where someone has been pushed to their death and there is no CCTV footage, is very difficult to prove as murder, as the act of pushing someone leaves no mark.

Ideally chose a nice scenic spot up a mountain or at a cliff edge, take lots of nice photographs of your happy hike together before there’s a “terrible accident”.

PraisebetoGod · 08/10/2025 06:52

TheNightingalesStarling · 07/10/2025 20:43

Now you have a digital footprint for searching for an Internet cafe so the police know where to look....

It's a good job I'm not going to be murdering anyone then isn't it!

Konstantine8364 · 08/10/2025 07:01

I think it depends on who you are trying to murder too, I think its a lot easier to kill a family member and get away with it eg push them down the stairs, off a cliff, poision them and then call the police and say they fell than it would be to kill someone and hide the body. Im 5'2 and live in a terraced house, so Id have no chance 🤣 Someone big and strong, living on a remote property would have a lot more chance than me!

Mymanyellow · 08/10/2025 07:49

What about if your dh had a heart attack and you waited until he was dead before you called 999. Bet that happens a lot.
I'm not sure you could poison someone these days.

everyoldsock · 08/10/2025 08:02

Pushing someone down the stairs would leave DNA. Also there’s more likelihood of the person surviving compared to other ways.

ConnieHeart · 08/10/2025 09:09

everyoldsock · 07/10/2025 23:30

I’ve often thought that Myra Hindley and Ian Brady would have got away in the 1960s with killing those four children if it wasn’t for killing their final victim - Edward Evans - and getting Hindley’s BIL involved in the cleaning up of that murder.

Same with the Wests. They probably would have got away with all the murders if one of their kids hadn't said something about their dead sister to their teacher

ConnieHeart · 08/10/2025 09:12

PinkPanther57 · 07/10/2025 22:49

Thanks. Was it carried out meticulously (?) - the evidence doesn’t point to a clean, professional, hit.

Just Googled it & there is evidence it was a professional job

ConnieHeart · 08/10/2025 09:23

everyoldsock · 08/10/2025 08:02

Pushing someone down the stairs would leave DNA. Also there’s more likelihood of the person surviving compared to other ways.

And there would be evidence that force was used I'd imagine

ChocolateBoxCottage · 08/10/2025 09:45

If you lived with someone or it was just house your dna would there all over the place anyway. Things forensics would looking for like hair, skin cells etc would be dismissed in your own house or on people who live with you. They'd be looking for your skin cells under there finger nails in signs of a struggle or your blood on the knife / on the wall if they had been stabbed and cuts on you.

TheRealMagic · 08/10/2025 10:28

Somethingsgottagiveeventually · 07/10/2025 23:45

DH and I were talking about this last night (sort of). Vampires must be really struggling for victims nowadays with CCTV and forensic evidence. Victorian vampires were really living in the golden age! Nowadays they'd have to work in a blood bank and skim some off the side or something in order to survive. But would that be enough? Most predators won't scavenge in the animal world. Could a vampire live off blood bags?

Vampires are pretty much people, though, aren't they? In which case I think living off blood bags would be like us living off ready meals - not as satisfying, not as good for you, but keeps you alive! There might be campaigns in the vampire community about the dangers of too much, led b UPB (ultra processed blood), led by Count van Tulleken.

HotTiredDog · 08/10/2025 11:08

CautiousLurker01 · 07/10/2025 10:01

I am now thinking up an ITV series based on women who connected over a MN thread and go on to murder significant persons in their lives …

Ooh yes please!