To finally agree with a junior doctors strike

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Junior doctors have decided to strike as they are being overlooked for jobs / training posts which are instead given to international applicants. I’ve always abhorred their money grabbing strikes in the past, but support this one 100%. UK doctors should be recruited where possible, and international graduates only turned to where we cannot find a suitable recruit in the UK.

No longer a dirty little secret that people were scared to raise in case of accusations like the type we have seen on here.

That is concerning...

I have never ever said that I have a DC with an MBBS who doesn't work as a doctor, if only because it would most emphatically not be true.

You said they were doing a PhD. You made a big thing of their funding source. If I have mistaken you for someone else I apologise...

'The lady doth protest too much, methinks'.

Warning: literary reference.

I don't recall making a big thing of any funding source besides saying that good medics will get full funding.

My DCs who've opted for medicine are all gainfully employed in London hospitals and the one you seem to be referring to is currently in specialty training (and dealing with the problems on the Northern Line as we speak). Fair to say DC has been offered full funding for a PhD in a lab which is doing some incredibly interesting work in his field, but hasn't yet started (and would do it alongside clinical work in any event). I hope that helps.

I will look back at posts as there was defo someone whose child went straight into PhD after MBBS

Be my guest. It certainly isn't one of my DC (the one who did a PhD did so straight after a BSc, not a MBBS, although his research was/ is medical).

Sevillian, have you got a clue why they're banging on about Arjan Singh? Any news of him seems to be a couple of years out of date. I don't know what victory they are claiming, but no one else seems to know about it.

I am banging on about him as he was interviewed on LBC this afternoon by Shelia Fogarty. Why don't you listen yourself? You will not like it 😂

Wish they'd keep up with the topic. Thought they knew everything better than anyone.

The new one has been struggling. Attempts at humour are really not going well either..

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And the new strike is about pay according to the BBC. Conditions are mentioned too, but pay. Why do doctors think they are poorly paid??? Early pay might be low but career average pay is huge and once they have a job it is secure. Just greedy. Idiots. They could strike over IMGs and they’d have my support but pay?

I can't find an interview between Arjan Singh and Sheila Fogarty but I expect if there is any sort of significant victory for the junior doctors we will find out about it from a more credible news source.

The only topic I feel I have to keep up with here is making sure that you and your friend stick to the facts, which is an uphill struggle.

If by a victory you mean that they are striking again I suppose they will have even less support than they did last time, but you can call that a victory if you like.

Not the foggiest Scotiasdarling, sorry. Just as I have not a clue why anyone would boast that their DC had dropped three GCSE grades to a mere A. But you know, each to their own. What I would say is that their banging tends to become increasingly incontinent when they've suffered a setback. So to that extent I think it must be good for the more articulate posters on this thread. Equally undermining to their case is the fact that they never, ever, ever square up to a difficult point, they just resort to one or other tired mantra. They wouldn't last five minutes in any witness box; they'd be utterly mashed.

And can I just say, formally, since I believe you to be 'the new one', I judge your humour to be absolutely first rate. Please keep it coming. An excellent antidote to the unimaginative and leaden comments of certain other posters on this thread.

I am not surprised you did not find it. I did think it may be too much for you. Ignorance is bliss.

'The new one' has eaten you for breakfast PurpleFairyLights, along with your friend.

Really? Both of you cant even find an LBC interview? The new one needs more training.

Or maybe you found it and it is too embarrassing for you. It makes the pro-IMG posters look foolish.

Enjoy a few more hours of ignorance.

It’s the jobs shortage too?

Newly-qualified doctors in their first year of practice in England have voted in favour of strike action in a row over a shortage of jobs.

The British Medical Association (BMA) union says thousands of resident doctors are ending up without speciality training places when they finish year two of training.

I haven't tried.

That is completely true about unemployed UKMGs. In 2025 63% of applicants for UK NHS specialty training were IMGs. Glad BMA have highlighted this.

As an example @mumsneedwine had stats that said 55% of GP training placements went to IMGs last year...

Good idea.

Oh dear 😂I don't think 13 GCSEs 10 grade A* and 3 grade A is bad at GCSE.

Enjoy reading old posts. Very creepy.

@PurpleFairyLights apparently we've been eaten for breakfast 😂. Sitting at the airport just catching up with the latest insults and utter rubbish.

We won. They lost. I'll pour the 🥂