To be absolutely fuming about the digital ID thing?

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I work as a nurse in England.

I just feel absolutely fuming about the digital ID proposals and don't know how to channel my anger??

I very strongly object to this. It makes my blood boil when I think about it and I feel anxious knowing that something like this may be imposed on us all.

It is not going to stop illegal immigration. That line is absolute BS. They're doing it for their own selfish reasons.

What do we do? I don't want to not work, but I am going to refuse to have one. So my employer may sack me?!

It's just ridiculous!

Obviously I've signed the petition, emailed my MP, will join any protests etc.

But practically speaking - will my employer actually sack me for not having one?

Ah I see…
So how do you propose we escape this agenda?

Quite the overreaction. If you're already employed you won't need one.

It's going to be useful for a lot of people.

Don’t worry, Agenda 2030 is totally made up, so you don’t need to worry about escaping it.

Depends what it’s added to, house sales so far. It could be anything really.

Not really, but it's a million times better than the proposed always-on spying system. I have a passport, why do I need something extra?
I thought that this country was short of funds so why are they squandering money on this unnecessary exercise?

But nearly everything you have mentioned is already linked together in government data bases - including house buying and selling to a certain extent as past addresses are in a few of the different linked systems.

For those who are objecting to the government tracking you - they already have all that info - creating a digital ID isn’t going to give them any more information.

As for making you use the ID to access different parts of life - that could happen without the single ID - it could be required to give your NI number etc.

What’s the point of spending billions on it?

So this just backs up that bringing things together helps. If they have this info in one place then adding an ID card sends the next step. Not everyone has a passport or driving licence and with ai you can easily make a fake utility bill.

I think it’s to have a way to hold the employers to account more - at the moment they have no way of checking if an NI number which is proof of your right to work is genuinely attached to the person who presents it.

You have a National Insurance number. A tax ID. Im assuming a passport and/or driving licence

An NHS number. A publicly available address.

What exactly do you think this is other than an amalgamation of this is info?

I agree with you OP. It'll be very hard to opt out of eventually as more and more systems will require it. Also other countries are similarly bringing it in one way or another. All you can do is protest, write to your MP and insist on paper rather than digital means of identification, but sooner or later it'll be impossible to work etc without it.

I don’t think a lot of people realize just how much all their info is linked up in the government database. I wouldn’t have thought of it, if I hadn’t had a job which involved looking people up.

You were also forbidden from accessing your own file - which was sooooo tempting.

Employers do ask for right to work in the U.K., I’ve always been asked for proof. An employer that doesn’t do that won’t with another form of ID. What would make them?

So do NI cards with photos on. But it's nothing to do with "holding employers to account". It's a fabrication that Starmer would like you to believe.
I'll bet that every piece of legislation he brings out in the next four years will be heralded as Stopping The Boats.

Really, I hadn't heard that?

But what’s your proof? NI number and a separate photo ID? There’s no way to easily check that the NI number hasn’t been shared or stolen from someone else because it has no photo attached to it.

Now the Benefits Agency can check in their systems that your NI number and your drivers licence photo match the person sitting in front of them. The average employer doesn’t have that option.

What is your issue?
I don’t see a problem if done properly. I’ve nothing to hide.

I linked above. gov.uk

eventually vaccine data

Why do you think this would happen? Which vaccines?

Eta: I am interested in your take on the new arrangements to travel to Europe. Are you worried about those too?

Why do you think this would happen?
What makes you think that it won't !?

I’m not sure whether I’m entirely for or against at this stage but one difference between paper forms of ID & digital ones is that your phone is on you all the time & can track your location.

Refuse, refuse, refuse. They’ve already said they won’t be forcing anyone to have it.

It’s unnecessary
itll cost ££££
it won’t fulfill its intended aim
it will be a beacon for hackers

Got it. I thought you meant specifically for house buying.

Semi off grid !!!!! Are you also a little bit vegan ? You are on social media so the world already knows your life , all your private stuff and the fact you probably went glamping last summer and own a woodburning stove , do nothing as you are doing it to yourself , never mind the government .