Jews leaving the UK

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I dont blame them. I would if I were Jewish.

They have been failed by their country, which is the UK. I wish them well and hope the UK can sort its anti semitism problems so it becomes safe for Jewish people again.

But this sort of comment is fucking outrageous and ignorant and antisemitic. You are conflating Judaism and Israeli politics. Jewish people in this country can't vote for Netanyahu, they don't get a say in what happens there - you do realise that, don't you? You don't think many of us watch in horror at what's unfolding there?

None of DH’s Family are leaving the UK and they can’t “go back” to Israel as they do not come from there, certainly in modern times. His family have been in the UK for many generations, not since the War. I don't know if that makes any difference

The isreali state is the only one that has such strong ties to a single faith - that means that peope
see Jewish and Israeli as interchangeable and we certainly incarcerated all Italians and poles in the Second World War

that’s how things work - don’t act dumb

...and people of colour and muslims and disabled people....need I go on?

There are different types of danger. There is a the type experienced by many Jews in the UK where it feels necessary to hide your background, faith and perspectives because you fear discrimination, even if not physical. That is harder than going to a country where you can be you even if the danger of war and sanctions is higher at a group level.

Given Jewish history I think there’s an obvious reason why standing and facing down aggressors does not look to everyone like a sensible strategy.

But not after the actions of one bigoted extremist (dead) idiot.

Right now you are useful to them in clocking their jew hatred.

As a Jew born in Btitain I do not feel safe. The antisemitism is endemic.
The marches are hateful, the BBC is biased & won't even call Hamas terrorists & will broadcast death chants to Jews, & I'm scared to use the NHS because of antisemitism.

Don't even ask me to about the antisemitism that I have experienced in our schools & universities. How do we pick a university for our children when the campuses are not safe for Jewish students? That is why we are talking about leaving our homes & country of birth, for our children's safety & future. So very sad 😔

Which is why it's extremely difficult to sympathise with people who are publicly stating they are moving to a country were they actually will be faced with voting for him.

And contributing to the society he and his government are creating while starving the shit out of innocent children.

I personally find that pretty abhorrent. I also find it completely illogical to proclaim they will be safer. When that perceived safety comes from the fact they are moving to a country run by someone as vile as him.

It comes across as slightly hypocritical to be honest.

As a Jew born in Britain I do not feel safe. The antisemitism is endemic.
The marches are hateful, the BBC is biased & won't even call Hamas terrorists & will broadcast death chants to Jews, & I'm scared to use the NHS because of antisemitism.

Don't even ask me to about the antisemitism that I have experienced in our schools & universities. How do we pick a university for our children when the campuses are not safe for Jewish students? That is why we are talking about leaving our homes & country of birth, for our children's safety & future. So very sad 😔

The marches have nothing to do with Jews it’s aimed at the zionists

Exactly. We have to stay and unite and reject the extremists.

It's the only policy that works.

Why does it matter?

Do you even know what zionism is?

Tbh I agree, I think there is a distinct difference between disagreeing with Netanyahu and current Israeli government approaches and having issues with any other Jewish person. I think the conflict in Palestine is highly publicised, very visible on social media in ways that other conflicts simply aren't. So I think people are reacting to that because that's why they are connecting more with it. Other conflicts are quite simply easier to ignore because we're not seeing horrific images every time we're opening our social media. So I think that's why people are less informed on other conflicts and therefore aren't connecting to them as much.

I don't think that's necessarily antisemitism although I've also no doubt there are some who will also be anti semitic and will use the protests etc as an outlet for that. But I don't think that's the case for everyone and I do think these are separate issues. I'm really appalled by what happened on Oct 7th, the actions of Hamas and the treatment of hostages has been inexcusable, I'm also disgusted by the Israelis government subsequent response and the sheer scale of the impact this has had on Palestinian civilians. I don't equate that with any other Jewish person, they aren't making these decisions and if they agree with it then they're entitled to have a different political opinion than me, I feel a lot of sympathy for Jewish people who have been impacted by this and any violence or hatred towards them must be rooted out.

I'm not sure harsher punishment is going to do that because as far as I'm aware statistically that makes little to no impact, but educative work is absolutely needed and schools etc could be doing much more to address this.

If what's happening in Gaza is because Jewish people feel unsafe in light of Hamas and they are therefore simply defending themselves...

Surly Israel would be scarier than london

I understand how it seems people going back to Israel. Whilst we have no idea how they'll vote, they've obviously decided they feel safer there than here. Not a decision for everyone, not one I understand or agree with.

That withstanding, this line is casually antisemitic and unacceptably ignorant.
"I don't think everyone has suddenly become jew-haters, its more the genocide and purposeful starvation of children that gets on peoples tits.'

I suppose maybe people are wondering where is better.

Awful to feel unsafe in the UK though, I am sorry that people feel this way.

This thread is depressing.

1. Israel isn’t unique - many countries have a religious basis. Including the UK which is Christian. But also including the many Muslim countries.

1. People telling Jews they shouldn’t feel anxious after one attack is ridiculous. It starts with one - we can show that time and time again in history. Then everyone says we deserved it for whatever reason (murdering Christian babies in the inquisition, running all the banks in 1930s Germany, Israel’s war in 2025). Then everyone feels encouraged to try again and again until we are kicked out of another country or murdered en masse. Any Jewish family has a story from each generation.

1. I am amazed I finally found that mythical Jewish person who goes on these horrific marches. Keep hearing about them! I know none in my actual life.

I do not feel safe. But I don’t feel safe anywhere else either. I really, really don’t want to miss the moment where I should take my kids and run for it - as so many did in ww2. There’s always a moment that figure generations know about but you can easily miss when you’re living it. And I worry a lot that I won’t recognise it if it comes.

It's understandable if people feel scared and want to leave. They can always come back if it doesn't work out.

As a BAME person, I felt under siege by the recent hatred by Stephen Yucky Lemon and crew and fantasised about leaving.

For Jews it must be even worse as one of the smallest minorities in the UK.

So all us Jews who take part in pro-Palestine marches are "self-haters", right? Give me a break. I simply refuse to buy into the narrative that marches protesting for Palestinian rights and an end of Israeli genocide are in ANY way anti-Jew. I personally know dozens of Jews who attend and none of them have EVER experienced "hatred" at the marches. Are they all liars? mmm....