Jews leaving the UK

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I dont blame them. I would if I were Jewish.

They have been failed by their country, which is the UK. I wish them well and hope the UK can sort its anti semitism problems so it becomes safe for Jewish people again.

Yes it is according the IHRA definition which is the definition that the Labour party use and most EU member states. And at least 2/3 British Jews consider themselves to be Zionist. Probably more. Zionism is just the belief that Jews should have a homeland in Israel. It says nothing about politics or occupation or borders. Many many Zionists (most that I know) also believe in a two state solution. It's very hard to separate Jews from Israel but that is not the same as saying that all Jews are responsible for the actions of the Israeli government or agree with them.

They're usually volunteers from the congregation. Trained by the CST. There may be the odd private security person that's not the norm. My husband takes his turn outside for an hour or so during a service. I worry when he's out there.

I think you are also forgetting that Israel handed back Gaza, fleeing the strip. Gaza was prosperous, had green and glasshouses full of flowers and oranges to sell. That was some of their main exports. They also were given billions in foreiga aid. And what did Gazand do? Voted in Hamas who stole all the aid to line their pockets while they lived in Egypt, Qatar (to name a few places) and methodically stripped Gaza of any assets while building tunnels under the strip that are more expansive than the London Underground. From day one, Gaza was lobbing missiles into Israel and have done so ever since. Gaza are the ones constantly starting wars and they have no issue using their own citizens as collateral damage. Israel warn in advance of any missiles or attacks, they also drop aid. Gaza and Hamas do not do anything to help their own, they only use them to destroy Jews.

This. People need to remember this. The Gazans invited Hamas into their community. Israel had withdrawn.

Again, I judge Hamas by their actions.

The greatest achievement of radical Islamists in recent decades has been how they have managed to expose the gullibility of the masses worldwide, most notably in the West. They have proven that the vast majority of people, even in this day and age, still subscribe to a sort of hive mind mentality. In times when you would think humans are smarter than ever before due to the means we have to access information, the opposite seems true.
This is not entirely new. For thousands of years, humans have been manipulated through groupthink, propaganda, and emotional appeals, from rulers and religious leaders to revolutionary movements. The tools and platforms may have changed, but the mechanism remains the same: exploit trust, exploit empathy, and shape perception before reason has a chance to intervene. What these radical Islamists demonstrated, more specifically the terrorist group Hamas, is simply the modern, digital-age version of an age-old tactic, amplified globally through social media and 24-hour news cycles.
So how do we know that Hamas engaged in this manipulation? Hamas itself admitted in its official post-7 October report, "Our Narrative... Operation Al-Aqsa Flood," that the attacks were designed to advance a deliberate propaganda campaign portraying Israel as committing "genocide" in Gaza. This framed Israeli responses as the real atrocity to counter the horrors of the 7 October attack, which ironically fits the actual definition of genocide far better. The goal was to sway gullible Western audiences. Senior Hamas official Ghazi Hamad even boasted that this narrative successfully shifted global perceptions, leading to recognition of a Palestinian state. In short, they engineered the "genocide" smear to weaponise sympathy and justify their terror. The strategy worked precisely because it preyed on ignorance, emotional bias, and the eagerness of many in the West to accept simple narratives over inconvenient truths.
Hamas leader Ghazi Hamad: “We will repeat October 7-like massacres until Israel is annihilated.”

Indeed. It is rather cult like

The greatest achievement of radical Islamists in recent decades has been how they have managed to expose the gullibility of the masses worldwide, most notably in the West. They have proven that the vast majority of people, even in this day and age, still subscribe to a sort of hive mind mentality. In times when you would think humans are smarter than ever before due to the means we have to access information, the opposite seems true.
This is not entirely new. For thousands of years, humans have been manipulated through groupthink, propaganda, and emotional appeals, from rulers and religious leaders to revolutionary movements. The tools and platforms may have changed, but the mechanism remains the same: exploit trust, exploit empathy, and shape perception before reason has a chance to intervene. What these radical Islamists demonstrated, more specifically the terrorist group Hamas, is simply the modern, digital-age version of an age-old tactic, amplified globally through social media and 24-hour news cycles.
So how do we know that Hamas engaged in this manipulation? Hamas itself admitted in its official post-7 October report, "Our Narrative... Operation Al-Aqsa Flood," that the attacks were designed to advance a deliberate propaganda campaign portraying Israel as committing "genocide" in Gaza. This framed Israeli responses as the real atrocity to counter the horrors of the 7 October attack, which ironically fits the actual definition of genocide far better. The goal was to sway gullible Western audiences. Senior Hamas official Ghazi Hamad even boasted that this narrative successfully shifted global perceptions, leading to recognition of a Palestinian state. In short, they engineered the "genocide" smear to weaponise sympathy and justify their terror. The strategy worked precisely because it preyed on ignorance, emotional bias, and the eagerness of many in the West to accept simple narratives over inconvenient truths.
Hamas leader Ghazi Hamad: “We will repeat October 7-like massacres until Israel is annihilated.”

Indeed. It is rather cult like

Keep on trying to prove your right and you’re going lose it all

Israel is keeping journalists out. And killing any that make it in. Hmmmm…

OP is deluded

If the 'public' get fed up of our right to protest, then we truly are fucked.

Despicable woman cutting down Hostage Ribbons placed by the Jewish Community of Muswell Hill in London

The same week of the Synagogue Attacks in Manchester.

The UK has a problem. This is getting out of hand.

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This is not a huge trend in this country as yet, but it is a trend in France and other European countries.
Also, to correct another comment, they are not going back to Israel. They are French or British people deciding they are no longer safe in the country of their birth.

yes, unfortunately they are. Still, if I was committing genocide I's probably want to hide that too.

That is a completely graceless thing to say after 2 Jews were killed as the result of a Jew-hating terrorist.

I feel the same way about those moving to Israel as I do those people who are apparently up and leaving for Dubai for a 'better life' - you're welcome to it.

I’m not surprised. It’s terrifying x

Again, a completely graceless - and pretty anti-semitic - statement given recent events, and tangible proof (October 7 2023 anyone???) of Jew-hatred.

Yes, Israel is undertaking the war under the cloak of secrecy. No news or images are getting out, successfully stopping baseless speculation about its activities 🙄

So it's fine to say 'radical islamists' are poisoning people's minds and manipulating whole countries but NOTA OK to suggest the Israeli government is approaching their attacks in Gaza too heavy handedly?

Its ok to use the term radical islamist but Zionist?

Can you explain that to me like I'm 5 please?

Thank you so much Parma. I so rarely stick my head above the parapet but am just sick to death of it all.

Growing up, I was almost ashamed to be Jewish. I went to a predominantly CofE school, and in my year, there were only two other Jews. I had no Jewish friends, quite a lot of antisemitic teachers who took great glee in making comments about my absence from school at the beginning of each school year due to Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur. I have been othered, and to a degree, Schrodinger's Jews. To white for some, not white enough for others. The irony is of course that despite coming from an unblemished and totally pure Jewish line, indeed, no-one has ever married out and I also have two BCRA mutations, am only culturally and ethnically Jewish. Although we observed Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur, we didn't keep kosher, we rarely went to shul, and I have never been to Israel. Heck, for various reasons, my father did not have a bat mitzvah.

Over the years, I distanced myself from Judaism. And besides, it's something that flows in one's blood, not dependent on religious beliefs. However, over the pandemic, I had some older Jewish friends and they invited me for various things, and it was brilliant. I started to properly embrace my heritage and did a lot of reading. Antisemitism has. always been on my radar but because I don't look stereotypically Jewish (in itself an antisemitic thing to think/say), a lot of people would talk shit about Jews, not realising I was one. And then October 7 happened. I woke up. I became proud of my heritage, after all, my family line exists because it has managed to survive when so many others Jewish people have been killed. Survival is literally in my blood. I properly embraced my Jewish heritage, and it made me realise I needed to stand up and be more vocal. While I do not condone Netanyhau's actions, I understand why he is doing what he is doing. Fair play to him for taking Hamas on.

In France it's illegal to wear a burkini.isnt it? Or a burkha? Is that ok?

Yeah, keep telling yourself that.

What on earth has that Got to do with it? Read what she’s written that shows the delusion.

And carrying a suffragette bag. What an unpleasant idiot.

While I do not condone Netanyhau's actions, I understand why he is doing what he is doing. Fair play to him for taking Hamas on.

Indeed @legrandcolbert I tend to think there are a lot of other countries in the Middle East who are quite pleased that Netanyhau is trying to eliminate Hamas as a terrorist organisation. He's doing the dirty work for Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia et al. Especially as most of the ME assume that it's Iran that's behind Hamas (I also assume this is correct).

So once again, the Jews take the blame for something everyone wants (one might see the parallel between the view that the reason Europe hates Jews is because of their historic role as usurers, while simultaneously finding that Jewish financiers were terribly convenient to European business in the 17th to 19th centuries.)

Ah yes, a sense of proportion is most definitely needed.

I almost forgot that we are to view attacks by Islamic extremists as a just a natural part of life, like Storm Amy.

Nothing to be done, nothing to see.