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My husband is giving up on our 7 year old daughter.

506 replies

daddywoe · 05/10/2025 21:28

We have 3 children and our middle one is autistic and has ADHD.
Dh is stressed and struggling with her and today he told me he doesn’t love her.
He has always been such a hands on dad and we’ve always said how we need to be a team and get through the tough times together but he doesn’t care anymore, she tells him she hates him and doesn’t want to talk to him and he just said fine, I’m done with her.
I can see that he means it, he doesn’t care anymore and I think he’s ready to give up and walk away.
I feel helpless, I need him because I’m struggling too.

OP posts:
Gingernessy · 06/10/2025 14:55

Southshore18 · 06/10/2025 14:48

If you have zero understanding of neuro disability, you shouldn't really comment.

You know as much about my level of understanding as I know about yours.
The problem with these types of thread is people are always on the defensive if any comment made disagrees with them or questions them.

WhatKittyDid · 06/10/2025 15:15

OP, so sorry for all you're going through. Just wanted to pick up on your mention of your husband not sleeping well, as a few years ago my husband began waking up at night constantly and it had a knock-on effect on his mood to the point that he became severely depressed. Eventually we discovered that he had severe obstructive sleep apnoea, and once it was under control his mood improved and likewise his ability to handle other aspects of his life. It might not be relevant at all, but just in case it is. Wishing you all the best xx

Southshore18 · 06/10/2025 15:19

Gingernessy · 06/10/2025 14:55

You know as much about my level of understanding as I know about yours.
The problem with these types of thread is people are always on the defensive if any comment made disagrees with them or questions them.

You clearly know nothing!!!

DIYagainstMould · 06/10/2025 15:23

My husband loves our child but could not understand for ages that nd brains have non regular presentations and you can't just mentor them, put them on star charts all the time or take their phones away ....which actually sends these poor little humans into emotional storm.

Your husband needs to get himself 1.educated 2.humbled 3. remorse

DIYagainstMould · 06/10/2025 15:35

YellowMellow99 · 06/10/2025 11:16

Great advice!!

OP, you are lovely! I feel for you!! Having an a child with Autism or ADHD can be hard, and your little one has both. Your hubby needs to understand that she has these conditions, she is not rude or difficult deliberately! She needs his unconditional love and support more than anything! I’ve suspected ADHD as does my daughter (we have been waiting for ages for a diagnosis…) and when she has a meltdown or she is anxious, I always show up for her and hold space for her. I just tell her, I know you have big feelings and they are hard to deal with, but you’ll learn it, and I’m here for you and love you no matter what! She is getting so much better with self soothing and re-regulating herself, they develop new neural pathways when you are there for them and love them through their difficult times! You just sit there and if they want a cuddle, you can offer it. Mine usually doesn’t want a cuddle when she is angry or upset but once she started to calm down, she always wants cuddles. Your husband doesn’t know what to do and blames your daughter for his feelings of inadequacy. Just talk to him about this like I said above. He needs to upskill a bit but he can do it. If needed, get some extra support! Sending you big hugs, this is a difficult time for you, you are wonderful!

Yes and he will get upskilled. The man isn't a monster. He's pressed against a wall. That's wall. Nd is relatively new trend ....nobody knows even why seems is so prevalent in the white English world

Jtfrtj · 06/10/2025 15:55

daddywoe · 05/10/2025 22:02

She has ASD and ADHD and oppositional defiance disorder so she’s very defiant which he finds frustrating.
She has melt downs and screams and swears and becomes aggressive and hateful which can last up to half an hour multiple times a day.
He is usually a good dad, he’s always been my rock but he’s just had enough and doesn’t want to know anymore.

This is so sad. People always aim their sympathy at the child in these circumstances but I feel sorry particularly sorry for the DH. I know it’s not entirely the child’s fault (I say entirely, as while I don’t doubt she has additional needs due to her condition(s) we also don’t know how severe they are, nor if she’s been given too many allowances to misbehave due to this, which has resulted in what would typically be classed as “bratty” behaviour).

I have friends in this exact situation, I’ve watched this unfold for years. DD is out of control and outright vindictive, appears to gain pleasure from other people’s stress and discomfort from her behaviour. She has hit me before. She also hits, bites, and laughs at her dad when he appears to show signs of breaking down from it all. It’s an extremely sad sight to witness a grown man being dragged down to such depths, and I don’t usually feel sorry for men!

Dad now after all these years can’t stand her and has given up, but most of all he feels resentment towards his wife who hasn’t been strict enough with her and undermines him infront of her when he attempts to discipline. This is the biggest problem of all, the mum would use her ADHD to excuse it, and wash her hands of the responsibility of parenting. While a firmer approach wouldn’t solve all their problems, I imagine it would help even just a little, and rid the DH of his resentment.

OP, obviously I’m not accusing you of this. I can’t, as I don’t know you, your story is text on a screen. However does any of this seem familiar at all? Do you think there’s any possibility your DH could feel you’re not a team, or disagree with your methods? Sometimes feeling a strong sense of unity with your spouse makes the world of difference despite what’s happening around us.

To everyone gunning for the DH- just remember he’s human we all have limits, and if this was a woman at her wits end due to her child’s behaviour, we’d be offering support and kind words.

KittyHigham · 06/10/2025 16:10

DIYagainstMould · 06/10/2025 15:35

Yes and he will get upskilled. The man isn't a monster. He's pressed against a wall. That's wall. Nd is relatively new trend ....nobody knows even why seems is so prevalent in the white English world

Neurodiversity is not a "trend".
Bubble tea and KPop are trends!

KittyHigham · 06/10/2025 16:14

@Jtfrtj
Please remember that you only see a snap shot of your friends lives. I don't doubt both parents may be on their knees and may be coming from different perspectives but you don't know what approach is most appropriate for that child.
Your post is heavy with judgement.

InterIgnis · 06/10/2025 16:20

Lucy2586 · 06/10/2025 13:25

I have said things in anger that I regret but not this. I am telling you 100% if he had said this in ear shot of someone doorbell etc and they called the police her be in trouble. I have seen this happen. Can’t believe people can’t see how wrong this is.

No, he wouldn’t. Would the police do a welfare check and relay any concerns to social services (who won’t jump to taking the children away either - that’s actually something they actively want to prevent happening)? Yes, but they’re not going to arrest him for venting as a result of burn out.

You may have never personally expressed such thoughts, but that doesn’t mean that it isn’t common. He, like other parents in such a situation, needs help, not condemnation. All condemnation does is make people fearful of asking for help when they most need it, which ends up putting children in more danger.

Jtfrtj · 06/10/2025 16:22

KittyHigham · 06/10/2025 16:14

@Jtfrtj
Please remember that you only see a snap shot of your friends lives. I don't doubt both parents may be on their knees and may be coming from different perspectives but you don't know what approach is most appropriate for that child.
Your post is heavy with judgement.

Edited

Actually, I haven’t seen a snap shot, I’ve seen them almost daily for the past 12 years as they’re my neighbours. I was friends with them when they first began dating, before they became parents. In fact, it was me who introduced them.

I have also said everything in my previous post to her directly.

I don’t think you’re in any position to tell me what I have/have not seen when you know nothing about our friendship.

InterIgnis · 06/10/2025 16:27

Jtfrtj · 06/10/2025 15:55

This is so sad. People always aim their sympathy at the child in these circumstances but I feel sorry particularly sorry for the DH. I know it’s not entirely the child’s fault (I say entirely, as while I don’t doubt she has additional needs due to her condition(s) we also don’t know how severe they are, nor if she’s been given too many allowances to misbehave due to this, which has resulted in what would typically be classed as “bratty” behaviour).

I have friends in this exact situation, I’ve watched this unfold for years. DD is out of control and outright vindictive, appears to gain pleasure from other people’s stress and discomfort from her behaviour. She has hit me before. She also hits, bites, and laughs at her dad when he appears to show signs of breaking down from it all. It’s an extremely sad sight to witness a grown man being dragged down to such depths, and I don’t usually feel sorry for men!

Dad now after all these years can’t stand her and has given up, but most of all he feels resentment towards his wife who hasn’t been strict enough with her and undermines him infront of her when he attempts to discipline. This is the biggest problem of all, the mum would use her ADHD to excuse it, and wash her hands of the responsibility of parenting. While a firmer approach wouldn’t solve all their problems, I imagine it would help even just a little, and rid the DH of his resentment.

OP, obviously I’m not accusing you of this. I can’t, as I don’t know you, your story is text on a screen. However does any of this seem familiar at all? Do you think there’s any possibility your DH could feel you’re not a team, or disagree with your methods? Sometimes feeling a strong sense of unity with your spouse makes the world of difference despite what’s happening around us.

To everyone gunning for the DH- just remember he’s human we all have limits, and if this was a woman at her wits end due to her child’s behaviour, we’d be offering support and kind words.

it is good advice for the parents to at least try and get on the same page. Right now the team that is Op and her DH has broken down, and if the family is going to survive as a unit it’s imperative that this is repaired.

I have known of a similar situation as well. They did end up splitting up, and the neurotypical children (who were older) opted to live with their father.

KittyHigham · 06/10/2025 16:32

Jtfrtj · 06/10/2025 16:22

Actually, I haven’t seen a snap shot, I’ve seen them almost daily for the past 12 years as they’re my neighbours. I was friends with them when they first began dating, before they became parents. In fact, it was me who introduced them.

I have also said everything in my previous post to her directly.

I don’t think you’re in any position to tell me what I have/have not seen when you know nothing about our friendship.

Everything I said still stands.
Observation is very different from living it 24/7.
They sound like a family in desperate need of support. Putting the responsibility onto the mum for not being strict enough is unhelpful and judgemental.
My neighbours saw me and my dd every day. And I had friends of long standing who I'd talked to at length. Doesn't mean any of them were in a position to judge my parenting.
Thankfully I was able to ditch those that were judgemental and the ones that supported me have shared my journey and have seen the successes further down the road.

Lucy2586 · 06/10/2025 16:47

Jtfrtj · 06/10/2025 15:55

This is so sad. People always aim their sympathy at the child in these circumstances but I feel sorry particularly sorry for the DH. I know it’s not entirely the child’s fault (I say entirely, as while I don’t doubt she has additional needs due to her condition(s) we also don’t know how severe they are, nor if she’s been given too many allowances to misbehave due to this, which has resulted in what would typically be classed as “bratty” behaviour).

I have friends in this exact situation, I’ve watched this unfold for years. DD is out of control and outright vindictive, appears to gain pleasure from other people’s stress and discomfort from her behaviour. She has hit me before. She also hits, bites, and laughs at her dad when he appears to show signs of breaking down from it all. It’s an extremely sad sight to witness a grown man being dragged down to such depths, and I don’t usually feel sorry for men!

Dad now after all these years can’t stand her and has given up, but most of all he feels resentment towards his wife who hasn’t been strict enough with her and undermines him infront of her when he attempts to discipline. This is the biggest problem of all, the mum would use her ADHD to excuse it, and wash her hands of the responsibility of parenting. While a firmer approach wouldn’t solve all their problems, I imagine it would help even just a little, and rid the DH of his resentment.

OP, obviously I’m not accusing you of this. I can’t, as I don’t know you, your story is text on a screen. However does any of this seem familiar at all? Do you think there’s any possibility your DH could feel you’re not a team, or disagree with your methods? Sometimes feeling a strong sense of unity with your spouse makes the world of difference despite what’s happening around us.

To everyone gunning for the DH- just remember he’s human we all have limits, and if this was a woman at her wits end due to her child’s behaviour, we’d be offering support and kind words.

id say that kid sounds more like a budding sociopath tbh

Jtfrtj · 06/10/2025 16:48

KittyHigham · 06/10/2025 16:32

Everything I said still stands.
Observation is very different from living it 24/7.
They sound like a family in desperate need of support. Putting the responsibility onto the mum for not being strict enough is unhelpful and judgemental.
My neighbours saw me and my dd every day. And I had friends of long standing who I'd talked to at length. Doesn't mean any of them were in a position to judge my parenting.
Thankfully I was able to ditch those that were judgemental and the ones that supported me have shared my journey and have seen the successes further down the road.

Edited

Everything I said still stands too.

People love to throw the word judgment around simply for stating what they’ve witnessed with their own eyes for years on end.
If my 7 year old child ran up to you and slapped you across the cheek for no reason, while running off laughing. And I stood there, said nothing to my child, just roll my eyes “She’s on a mad one today” (which is exactly what happened to me) I guarantee you’d pass some, god forbid, judgement too. I was angry, not at the child, but at my friend, and I let her know she was partly the reason she felt confident enough to do that. That all being said, neither of us are terrible person. We are close friends and no topics of conversation are off limits.

I know Mumsnet has developed a trend over the last past few woke years to defend women to the death, no questions asked. But let’s stop patronising ourselves and pretending like women can do no wrong.

Jtfrtj · 06/10/2025 16:49

Lucy2586 · 06/10/2025 16:47

id say that kid sounds more like a budding sociopath tbh

You’re probably not wrong.

KittyHigham · 06/10/2025 16:52

Jtfrtj · 06/10/2025 16:48

Everything I said still stands too.

People love to throw the word judgment around simply for stating what they’ve witnessed with their own eyes for years on end.
If my 7 year old child ran up to you and slapped you across the cheek for no reason, while running off laughing. And I stood there, said nothing to my child, just roll my eyes “She’s on a mad one today” (which is exactly what happened to me) I guarantee you’d pass some, god forbid, judgement too. I was angry, not at the child, but at my friend, and I let her know she was partly the reason she felt confident enough to do that. That all being said, neither of us are terrible person. We are close friends and no topics of conversation are off limits.

I know Mumsnet has developed a trend over the last past few woke years to defend women to the death, no questions asked. But let’s stop patronising ourselves and pretending like women can do no wrong.

It's not about defending women.
The scenario you describe illustrates a mother not coping just as much as the father in the OP.
Both need support.

Lucy2586 · 06/10/2025 16:53

InterIgnis · 06/10/2025 16:20

No, he wouldn’t. Would the police do a welfare check and relay any concerns to social services (who won’t jump to taking the children away either - that’s actually something they actively want to prevent happening)? Yes, but they’re not going to arrest him for venting as a result of burn out.

You may have never personally expressed such thoughts, but that doesn’t mean that it isn’t common. He, like other parents in such a situation, needs help, not condemnation. All condemnation does is make people fearful of asking for help when they most need it, which ends up putting children in more danger.

To be honest I have never thought such a thing about my child. Ever. I’ve been angry, ive been hurt by things shes said lashing out but thought about murdering her. No. Thought of leaving her? No. Yes people do now get arrested for making verbal threats against anyone not just children. Behind the times aren’t you? My boyfriend cheats on me, I feel at the end of my tether lash out say im going to chuck him off a bridge. Yes! I would be arrested. It happens all the time. It’s illegal no matter what the situation to make fucking death threats!!

KittyHigham · 06/10/2025 16:56

@Jtfrtj I'd advise the same to your neighbours as I did to the OP, referral to social care for family assessment as neither child is having their needs met and the parents need help.

Jtfrtj · 06/10/2025 17:01

KittyHigham · 06/10/2025 16:52

It's not about defending women.
The scenario you describe illustrates a mother not coping just as much as the father in the OP.
Both need support.

The scenario I describe is a woman not taking a proactive enough approach to parenting and discipline, and undermining the DH/not allowing him to discipline. Thus, creating a building resentment and making a bad family dynamic worse. But I’ll leave it there and not bother to respond to you anymore on the matter, it obviously doesn’t fit your narrative so you’ll choice to misunderstand my point, and label it as judgement. Possibly due to you having a chip on your shoulder from your past personal experiences of judgement.

Southshore18 · 06/10/2025 17:06

Jtfrtj · 06/10/2025 16:22

Actually, I haven’t seen a snap shot, I’ve seen them almost daily for the past 12 years as they’re my neighbours. I was friends with them when they first began dating, before they became parents. In fact, it was me who introduced them.

I have also said everything in my previous post to her directly.

I don’t think you’re in any position to tell me what I have/have not seen when you know nothing about our friendship.

I suggest you move in with them for a few weeks and then let us know how you get on. Being a neighbour to someone with a child means absolutely fuck all. You have no idea what life 24/7 is like with such a child.

You also suggested upthread that some of the behaviour may misbehaving due to lack of boundaries etc. Would you say to a child in a wheelchair that they are maybe just a little bit lazy or that the parents didn't encourage walking enough?

your ignorance is quite astounding.

KittyHigham · 06/10/2025 17:09

Jtfrtj · 06/10/2025 17:01

The scenario I describe is a woman not taking a proactive enough approach to parenting and discipline, and undermining the DH/not allowing him to discipline. Thus, creating a building resentment and making a bad family dynamic worse. But I’ll leave it there and not bother to respond to you anymore on the matter, it obviously doesn’t fit your narrative so you’ll choice to misunderstand my point, and label it as judgement. Possibly due to you having a chip on your shoulder from your past personal experiences of judgement.

And you end with a barbed comment to me about my 'experience '

I have even more years experience of working with parents of autistic children than I have of being a parent to one. So I've been both sides. Change happens when people feel valued and respected not judged.

Jtfrtj · 06/10/2025 17:13

Southshore18 · 06/10/2025 17:06

I suggest you move in with them for a few weeks and then let us know how you get on. Being a neighbour to someone with a child means absolutely fuck all. You have no idea what life 24/7 is like with such a child.

You also suggested upthread that some of the behaviour may misbehaving due to lack of boundaries etc. Would you say to a child in a wheelchair that they are maybe just a little bit lazy or that the parents didn't encourage walking enough?

your ignorance is quite astounding.

Having ADHD doesn’t exempt you from being a brat. I don’t care what you think of my ignorance.

Southshore18 · 06/10/2025 17:24

Jtfrtj · 06/10/2025 17:13

Having ADHD doesn’t exempt you from being a brat. I don’t care what you think of my ignorance.

eloquent comeback. running out of arguments?

Jtfrtj · 06/10/2025 17:28

Southshore18 · 06/10/2025 17:24

eloquent comeback. running out of arguments?

Could say same to you 🙂

InterIgnis · 06/10/2025 17:28

Lucy2586 · 06/10/2025 16:53

To be honest I have never thought such a thing about my child. Ever. I’ve been angry, ive been hurt by things shes said lashing out but thought about murdering her. No. Thought of leaving her? No. Yes people do now get arrested for making verbal threats against anyone not just children. Behind the times aren’t you? My boyfriend cheats on me, I feel at the end of my tether lash out say im going to chuck him off a bridge. Yes! I would be arrested. It happens all the time. It’s illegal no matter what the situation to make fucking death threats!!

Your experience isn’t a universal one. You can only speak for yourself.

Behind the times? Well, I don’t currently practice law but I’m not so far removed from doing so that my knowledge has been rendered obsolete. A parent experiencing extreme emotional distress would almost certainly not be arrested for saying what he did, how he did. Context doesn’t just matter, it’s crucial.

It’s also not in the public interest to criminalize struggling parents. Not least because social services have a vested (financial) interest in keeping children with their parents, but because making parents fearful of asking for, and being honest with, outside support puts children at greater risk of harm.