Neighbour has put up huge Unite the Kingdom flag

[UrticaDioca]

I am gutted. I haven't seen a single flag in my town, and suddenly this union jack goes up two doors over with the words 'Unite the Kingdom' printed on it in capital letters. The flag is huge and flying from a pole on top of their shed, but it's in their own garden so nothing can be done.

I am the daughter of an immigrant mother and therefore mixed race. Now I have to see this fucking flag waving at me every time I look out of my kitchen or living room windows.

Did you watch the video I suggested?

The working class are those who are most negatively impacted by illegal immigration.

I don’t think I’m superior to anyone, so don’t paint people with your own brush. Just because you think something is or isn’t happening doesn’t make it true. What make something true is figures, facts, data and statistics and that includes both qualitative and quantitative including people’s lived experiences.

This issues you mention are there but they aren’t national issues they are localised not on to particular towns or cities but to localities within towns and cities. Housing may be overcrowded but it isn’t down to migration, it’s doesn’t to land grabs, asset holding and lack building suitable housing for the population groups that require it. Services are stretched due to under funding, mishandling of funds and will probably get worse due to pressures on universities post brexit and the reduction of international students to study medical degrees and the like, engineer courses for example are closing down because of expense. Wages are stuck because of inflation, inflation is high because of the amount of wealth in the UK but that wealth is not being spent and is instead being hoarded which is causing the cost of living to stay high. Again nothing to do with immigration. Taxing Wealth/Assets would fix the majority of issues you mention but it won’t happen because the people who own the wealth own everything and they are pointing the finger at immigrants, next it will probably be because women work, or gay people, or disabled people on benefits.

No they’re not, working people are most negatively impact by wealth disparity in the UK and the disparity will continue to force more and more people further down the class system while consistently telling them their situation is because of (insert interchangeable minority or repressed group).

They are the most negatively impacted demographic when it comes to mass illegal immigration because they don't have the wealth to circumnavigate the problems that are caused by it.

Think Dr appointments, depression of wages, greater competition for jobs, school placements, crime. This isn't affecting Quentin who goes to a private school in Mayfair and has private healthcare in the same way it is affecting Kirsty who has to walk to school looking over her shoulder because the council has just landed a bunch of unvetted potentially criminal men in her town, or she has to wait 4 weeks to see a doctor if she is ill, by which point she has landed herself up A&E.

Right now you are just scaremongering regarding “looking over her shoulder” in your example Kirsty is more likely to be a victim of SA in her own house, by a member of her own family or a “friend” everything else goes back to my argument that the working class are most negatively impacted by wealth disparity in the UK.

My friend lives in an area with very little immigration. She told me yesterday that the first GP appointment she can get is early November. Why is that?

I'm not scaremongering at all. I'm highlighting the reality of living in a poorer area or council estate and how the working class are the most affected by illegal immigration.
'Kirsty is more likely to be a victim of SA in her own house' This is total change in subject, it isn't to the topic we are discussing.

'working class are most negatively impacted by wealth disparity in the UK.' That does not mean the working class are not also most affected by illegal immigration. In fact it plays into your argument of wealth disparity!

I think using such a broad term is just an excuse to avoid looking into what causes the disparity. What do you propose is done to close the gap? Because I can guess it sounds a lot like communism.

Chuck it in on Grok and you will get a really good break down of why but one of the reasons is supply and demand. There have been 6.93 million more registered patients since 2015.

You are the one saying Kirsty was looking over her shoulder maybe I presume SA was what you were discussing based on the arguments I’ve heard. Maybe you just meant she didn’t like being surrounded by people with brown skin?

Communism 😆 please. I’m no economist I’m not an expect in that field but there are plenty who want to see a tax on assets worth over a certain amount. I think that would be a good start…. This has happened before when the filthy rich had morality and decided to give back its how most of the institutions we so dearly love were started/funded.

I'd ask them if they realise that Unite the kingdom is being organised by a convicted paedophile who was also convicted of a racial attack which left one mixed race man dead and a black man fighting for his life!

I’m not here to defend Tommy Robinson, but you can’t just accuse someone of crimes that never happened because you don’t like them. He has never been convicted of any offence involving children or indeed for any sexual offences! Making things like that up is just outright defamation.
What do you honestly hope to achieve by lying about someone like that? It doesn’t make your argument stronger, it just proves you don’t have one. This is exactly why people have stopped trusting public debate in this country because too many are more interested in smearing others than in being honest. You don't have to like the man, just don't make things up!

But no immigrants in the area I am talking about….

I was indeed suggesting the threat of SA from unvetted men. You attempted to deflect by saying SA is more likely to be committed by someone the victim knows. Nobody is disputing the stats, but your comment was irrelevant to the topic we were discussing.

And what has skin colour got to do with the price of fish? We are talking about immigrant status not race.

'want to see a tax on assets worth over a certain amount.' So how does that look to you? And how does this change wealth disparity?

In 2024-25, the top one per cent of income tax payers earned 13.3% of total income and paid 28.2% of income tax.

The top ten per cent of income tax payers earned 35.1% of total income in 2024-25 and paid 60.2% of income tax.

Likely story but either way one of the other reasons getting a Drs appointment is difficult will apply. It's not rocket science.

Surely everyone should know this by now - its been all over the news and social media?? So people are supporting fascist groups by mistake because they are ignorant? Great 👀🤷‍♀️

I honestly can't believe you are defending a man like Tommy Robinson. Though it's an anonymous forum, so perhaps I can 🤷‍♀️

How do you mean "likely story"? There are actually are immigrants but this person is lying? Or hasn't noticed them? If the latter... does it even matter?

But you're quite right "one of the other reasons" will inevitably apply. Weird, then, only to fly flags about one of those perceived reasons, isn't it?

There are lots of areas in the country with practically no immigrants. Why would I lie about it? Isn’t that part of the problem?

So it’s apparently fine to spread complete lies as long as they fit the “right” narrative? That’s the hypocrisy that’s rotting public debate in this country. People scream about misinformation when it suits them, but when it’s about someone they don’t like, they’ll repeat any rumour as fact.
What was written about Tommy Robinson is false. He’s never been convicted of anything involving children or of any racially motivated attack that killed anyone. Those are serious accusations, and it’s called defamation under British law. His actual convictions are public record and take two minutes to verify, so there’s no excuse for spreading lies!

And before you pipe up again with “you’re defending him,” try reading what’s actually written. Pointing out a lie isn’t defending someone, it’s standing up for the truth. The lack of basic comprehension in these debates is staggering. I don’t care who it’s about (left, right, or anyone in between), you don’t get to rewrite reality because it suits your agenda.

Oh please…. If you are talking about the risk of SA for women then my point is 100% relevant stop deflecting, and if it isn’t about that then your point has to relate to skin colour. Otherwise how does Kirsty know these people in the area are immigrant as far as I know they don’t come with badges.

There is plenty of information from much cleverer people than me who give perfect examples of how this can be done and the huge positive impact of reducing this wealth gap on society. This is not the first time in history we have been in this situation.

What? There is more to flying flags than not getting a Drs appointment. What an odd remark.

To be fair I know there are areas with little immigration. This is beside the point.

No your point isn't relevant at all. Nobody can deny allowing thousands of unvetted men into our country puts people (particularly women and girls) at risk. There have been multiple cases of immigrants following women and girls, sexual assaults, rapes and paedos caught trying to meet underaged girls for sex. So for you to come out with 'Oh well it's more likely to be someone she knows,' it is indeed a moot point.

'your point has to relate to skin colour. Otherwise how does Kirsty know these people in the area are immigrant as far as I know they don’t come with badges.' What is the obsession with making this about race? Honestly. Erm, perhaps Kirsty is looking over her shoulder because she has been told a hotel nearby has been filled with unvetted potentially criminal men and is therefore justly more wary.

'give perfect examples of how this can be done and the huge positive impact of reducing this wealth gap on society.' But what are your ideas or the solutions you agree with? You are the one bringing up wealth disparity after all, whilst ignoring how immigration plays into this and affects the working classes most.

So would I. Uniting everyone means just that, 🤷‍♀️