Neighbour has put up huge Unite the Kingdom flag

[UrticaDioca]

I am gutted. I haven't seen a single flag in my town, and suddenly this union jack goes up two doors over with the words 'Unite the Kingdom' printed on it in capital letters. The flag is huge and flying from a pole on top of their shed, but it's in their own garden so nothing can be done.

I am the daughter of an immigrant mother and therefore mixed race. Now I have to see this fucking flag waving at me every time I look out of my kitchen or living room windows.

He's allowed his opinion same as you are allowed yours

While it's ghastly there is nothing you can do other than sulk (or wrap.it down in the dead of night)

Please do not tell me what to worry about. I am not worried about money. I worry about the fact that over the last twenty-five years, immigration has increased to historically high levels, exceeding emigration by more than 100,000 in every year between 1998 - 2020. If that contiinues, the native population of the UK will become a minority, and I do not think that is what British people want, nor do I think it will create a United Kingdom.

I literally put it like that to include past immigrants. I see the threat is not only to people who are "100% anglosaxon" (a thing that barely exists), but everyone who is already rooted here, who have families here. It has already led to displacement of families. Look at the social fabric of a place like Dewsbury 25 years ago versus now. It used to be a poor, post-industrial town but with a thriving market and a close local community. That community has been displaced, god knows where. Now it is a boarded up ghetto. Same story in Batley. As of 2021, Dewsbury's ethnic makeup was 50.8% White, 44.4% Asian. That is not diversity. That is a country that is becoming an Asian spin off.
In 2021, 23% of the population of West Yorkshire now identifies as being from an ethnic minority. That number is going to continue to increase.
When is it ok to say stop? When Gujarati becomes an official second language of the country? When White British people are a minority? When the official religion becomes Muslim? Please explain when enough immigration is enough, I am genuinely curious.

The UK population is 6% Muslim, and, I think? 0.5% Gujurati speakers. Hardly a takeover….

Define native

Agree. I’d say it was put up in response.

It’s like Alice in Wonderland. “Words mean what I want them to mean-neither more nor less”

You’re reading a lot into a flag on someone’s shed. The Union Jack stands for everyone who lives here. “Unite the Kingdom” is about pulling people together, not splitting them apart. It’s odd that a flag meant to include everyone now gets treated as a threat.
People need to start using their heads. The reaction to anything that has a certain name attached to it is always the same. If the wrong person once said it, it must automatically be racist or evil. That’s lazy thinking. You judge an idea by what it means, not by who said it.
The real issue is the contempt shown for ordinary working-class people. The same people who talk about equality are the first to sneer at anyone with an accent who dares to be proud of their country. They act superior while mocking the people who actually keep the place running.
Most people don’t hate living in a mixed society. They just think the way multiculturalism was managed hasn’t worked out the way it was promised. They see division growing everywhere and they’re tired of being told to keep quiet about it.
Nobody ever asks why these flags are going up. Do people really think there’s some hidden far-right movement behind them, or are they a signal from ordinary people who feel shut out and ignored? It’s frustration. It’s people saying they still belong here, even if nobody in power seems to want to hear it.
Those flags aren’t about hate. They’re about being pushed to the edges in your own country and finding one small way to be seen again.
If we ever want to pull this place together, we need to start listening to the people who have been written off for too long.

What % of the population do you think is made up of immigrants?

People really need to stop jumping on anyone who uses the word “native.” The moment the word appears, half the room acts like it’s forbidden to talk about. That isn’t how adults discuss identity or history. When people say native, they mean people who were born here and whose families have lived here for generations. It’s about cultural roots and continuity, not about race.

The bigger issue is that some parts of the country feel less connected to that shared story than others. When communities stay apart for two or three generations, it shows that integration hasn’t worked as well as it should have and that’s not about blaming people; it’s about how schools, local councils and politicians have allowed groups to live separate lives instead of helping everyone feel part of one civic identity.

In most countries, whether it’s Nigeria, China or anywhere else, people talk openly about belonging and about keeping their national culture alive. Here we act as if raising the subject is off-limits. If we really want a united country, we have to be able to talk about shared values and what it means to belong here, without treating the discussion itself as suspect.

What’s the point of asking that? Throwing around numbers doesn’t answer anything I said. This is about how people feel shut out in their own country, not about a spreadsheet.

I haven't jumped on you i just asked you.

Very telling though. You must include people of all religions and races that were born here and whose families have lived here for generations then.

I’m not sure what’s supposed to be “very telling.” I wasn’t the one who even mentioned the word native. I only pointed out that people jump on it instead of talking about what it actually means. And yes, that obviously includes anyone born and raised here. The whole point is that belonging should come from a shared connection to the country, not someone’s background.

It does answer it. Please tell us where the danger of becoming a minority

You mean the Celts? They already are a minority. Those are the native Brits as you put it everyone else is an immigrant or of immigrant descent. Or do you just mean that “White British people” will become a minority? Because surely that just demonstrates you as a racist!

Well, there is a difference between feeling something and something actually being true. I donmt doubt that some people feeling shut out and them actually being shut out, and both situations need different remedies. It’s obvious that people can’t really be shut out by 6% of the population. So we need to somehow address the fear.

I don’t think they are one to let facts get in the way of their racist beliefs.

These issues for working class people are caused by wealth disparity not by immigration but the people who own the wealth also own the media so what you to be looking a different direction and putting the blame of why your life is hard on other people, people who are easier to blame. Who will it be after the immigrants?

You’re being deliberately naive. Anyone who’s lived in areas that have seen the fastest population change knows exactly what I mean. This isn’t about imaginary "danger", it’s about the reality people see around them.
Look at the 2021 Census. In London, Leicester, Luton and Slough, people born in the UK are already less than half the population. That’s not a matter of opinion at all, it’s just what the numbers show. Net migration has gone from tens of thousands a year in the early 1990s to several hundred thousand a year since the late 1990s, peaking at around a million arrivals in 2024. That is a huge shift in one generation and it obviously changes how communities feel and function.
You don’t have to live in one of those cities to understand it, but don’t pretend the change isn’t real or that people are wrong for noticing it. The real issue is how it’s managed and how we keep some sense of shared connection while it’s happening.

I grew up in Luton and my parents weren't born in the UK. Do you mean me?

You’re just repeating the same line that gets rolled out every time this subject comes up. Of course inequality exists, but that doesn’t make the issue of mass immigration off limits. They’re two separate problems that feed into each other.

It’s not only about money or capitalism. It’s about overcrowded housing, services that can’t cope, and communities changing faster than anyone planned for. It’s also about the labour market being undercut. When you flood a workforce with cheap labour, wages stagnate and the people at the bottom take the hit while business owners pocket the difference. Working people see it every day in their pay packets and job security.

Pretending it’s all down to “the rich” or “the media” is an easy way to dodge a real discussion about population, wages and infrastructure. The truth is that both things matter. The economy needs fixing, but so does the way migration is handled. Shutting people up by shouting “it’s capitalism’s fault” doesn’t solve either problem.

Stop being obtuse, obviously I didn’t mean you personally. The point is about what’s happened in towns like Luton and how those changes affect everyone. Every debate now turns into “me, me, me.” That obsession with self has wrecked any sense of the collective or community we used to have. Until we think in terms of “we” again, nothing will get better.

I’m not saying it’s down to the rich but it certainly isn’t down to the 4% of immigrants who come to Britain on a small boat.

Its down to wealth disparity it’s not about what people are being paid it’s about the assets that the wealth own.

The cost to the Government of migration is a drop in the ocean it’s not the big issue or cost that you or people like you, or GB news, or TR are shouting. But they are all shouting it for a reason…. And it isn’t for the general populations benefit.

You can drop the supercilious tone. That kind of sneering, where anyone who questions what’s happening gets written off as some GB News-watching idiot, is exactly the problem. People can see it with their own eyes. Housing is overcrowded, services are stretched and wages are stuck. The moment someone mentions it, they get treated like they have been brainwashed by the media.

I’m not talking about small boats or repeating headlines. I’m talking about what ordinary people deal with every day. Wealth inequality and mass immigration are not separate problems. They feed each other. The people with money gain from both cheap labour and rising assets while everyone else deals with the pressure. Brushing that off as if it is beneath you does not make it go away. It only shows how out of touch some people have become.

Who do you mean then? Why don't you mean me. I dont fit your description of native. So who is causing things to "happen" to Luton. Whats happened to Luton in your opinion