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Iwantmyoldnameback · 06/10/2025 14:20

lovernotafighterr · 05/10/2025 19:10

I’d say for now the flags are flying in areas where the house prices are not high anyway.

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Not heard of Epping then?

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 06/10/2025 14:20

Petitchat · 06/10/2025 14:16

My mind doesn't go towards your type of thinking.
I was just happy that she got to wear her British dress and everyone supported her.

Her dad was lovely and ensured that she wanted to do it, which she did.
Good on that lovely family and well done to the girl.
🌹An English rose

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You believe whatever you want to. I feel sorry for the poor child.

Petitchat · 06/10/2025 14:26

IAmThePrettiestManOnMyIsland · 06/10/2025 14:19

At least you admit they are assumptions! I don't think people care about being called racist anymore because it gets thrown around so flippantly regardless of whether there is evidence to back up the accusation or not.

'Also, tommy Robinson did not expose the grooming gangs.' I suggest you watch the Triggernometry interview with TR if you are going to make a statement like this. The footage from his TV appearances raising this issue long BEFORE the grooming scandal became public knowledge is all readily available on YouTube.

I agree all races of people can be racist. I just find it curious how many people are comfortable calling attendees at these protests racist when they are standing shoulder to shoulder with different races of people who happen to be united by similar causes.

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Makes complete sense, your post.
Fully agree 👍

TooBigForMyBoots · 06/10/2025 14:28

Oh yeah, Elon Musk. What is it with the far right and drug addled megalomaniacs😵‍💫?

Avantiagain · 06/10/2025 14:33

There is nothing you can do about it but yes it would piss me off too.

IAmThePrettiestManOnMyIsland · 06/10/2025 14:38

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 06/10/2025 11:56

Bless. I understood what you were attempting to do, I just thought it was a rather pathetic attempt to draw a false equivalence between things that are clearly not equivalent.

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Resorting to condescension because you don't understand what you are reading is not a good look.

You thought I was making a false equivalence, but there was no equivalent to be had. I offered up an example of the dichotomy that can exist within people and how we can agree with certain aspects of a person's beliefs whilst disagreeing with others, or even despising the person in question.

The Hitler example was used because of the extreme duality of it. I thought this would convey the point in a simplistic way making it easier to understand, evidently this wasn't the case for you....

Petitchat · 06/10/2025 14:38

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 06/10/2025 14:20

You believe whatever you want to. I feel sorry for the poor child.

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The "poor child" was so happy and confident, reading out her letter in her British Flag dress.

I suspect she would feel very confused at your attitude towards her and her family on such a memorable occasion.

But there again, she already has experience of people with your way of thinking when she was banned from school for innocently wearing a British Flag dress.

IAmThePrettiestManOnMyIsland · 06/10/2025 14:42

TooBigForMyBoots · 06/10/2025 12:30

Lol at all the posters claiming it's patriotic and cheerful, but dont fly one from their property.😆

Of course they don't as they dont want to out themselves as racist to their friends and neighbours IRL.🙈

More assumptions. Do you actually base any of your comments on tangible evidence.

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 06/10/2025 14:43

Petitchat · 06/10/2025 14:38

The "poor child" was so happy and confident, reading out her letter in her British Flag dress.

I suspect she would feel very confused at your attitude towards her and her family on such a memorable occasion.

But there again, she already has experience of people with your way of thinking when she was banned from school for innocently wearing a British Flag dress.

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I was thinking more about the potential implications for her of having shared such a public platform with such high profile racists. Hopefully people will recognise that she was just a child and will blame the parents, but it can be hard to break those associations once they are made.

TooBigForMyBoots · 06/10/2025 14:47

IAmThePrettiestManOnMyIsland · 06/10/2025 14:42

More assumptions. Do you actually base any of your comments on tangible evidence.

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I base it on the posters who back the racist flags shaggers, but won't fly one themselves. Do you have one up yourself?

IAmThePrettiestManOnMyIsland · 06/10/2025 14:51

Shakeoffyourchains · 06/10/2025 12:59

You know Hitler wasn’t actually a vegetarian, right?
That was a myth pushed by Goebbels to portray him as disciplined and ascetic.

But well done for showing just how effective propaganda can be and how stubbornly it sticks once it takes hold.

I'm sure there's a lesson in there somewhere.

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It's widely accepted he was a vegetarian towards the end of his life.

Nit picking at something you have no evidence to substantiate whilst ignoring the bones of the argument? The basis of my point remains.

I'm sure there's a lesson in there somewhere.

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 06/10/2025 14:52

IAmThePrettiestManOnMyIsland · 06/10/2025 14:38

Resorting to condescension because you don't understand what you are reading is not a good look.

You thought I was making a false equivalence, but there was no equivalent to be had. I offered up an example of the dichotomy that can exist within people and how we can agree with certain aspects of a person's beliefs whilst disagreeing with others, or even despising the person in question.

The Hitler example was used because of the extreme duality of it. I thought this would convey the point in a simplistic way making it easier to understand, evidently this wasn't the case for you....

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I'm embarrassed for you that you're still trying to argue this equivalence. A total failure of logic.

If Tommy Robinson eats meat, that doesn't mean that all meat eaters are racist. Similarly, Hitler being vegetarian doesn't mean all vegetarians are Nazis. Because in both cases, their dietary preferences are irrelevant to their political views.

A much better comparison would have been to think about how we might have judged someone who had chosen to go on a march organised by Hitler in celebration of German culture, knowing what Hitler stood for. I know what conclusions I would draw about someone making that choice. What would you think?

IAmThePrettiestManOnMyIsland · 06/10/2025 14:54

thepariscrimefiles · 06/10/2025 13:09

He was found guilty contempt of court due to interfering with the trial of a sexual grooming gang. He's just a rabble rouser and trouble maker. He couldn't give a fuck about the victims.

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He was exposing the grooming gangs a decade before the contempt of court case, but don't let that nugget of truth distract you.

JHound · 06/10/2025 14:56

Grammarnut · 06/10/2025 13:42

You don't seem to be aware what de-colonization means. It's the removal of 'dead white males (and females)', it's the 're-balancing' of history so all the bad bits are taught, some of it untruths (for example a wide-spread popular belief that England introduced both slavery and the Triangular Trade), some of it twisted. Almost anything written about Britain or Europe lately includes these tropes and variations on them, agreements that de-colonization is needed, though de-colonization only applies to European colonization not Ottoman, nor the colonization of the Levant from the 8th century by Arabs following Mohammed's injunction to spread Islam by both word and the sword.
Everything that Britain has done is blameworthy from the Agrarian Revolution to the ending of the slave trade - economic reasons for doing this are prioritized over the known moral ones to make it look as if ending the slave trade cost Britain nothing but gave it economic advantage.
Of course, that much wealth comes from the use of slaves is true in that many in the UK had plantations in the West Indies (like Sir Thomas Bertram in Mansfield Park - which adds a layer of meaning to that novel many do not pick up). Everything Britain ever did: imposing parliamentary democracy, introducing the rule of law and equality before the law in places we traded with or colonised. Everything given a gloss that it was done out of self-interest only and was always exploitative - that Britain (and Europe) raped the resources of the world and gave nothing back.
Our univerisities and our schools are teaching this with no qualification in many cases. Where do you think young people got the idea that 'globalising the intifada' (destroying Israel, that means, and Jews in general from Hamas' pov) is a good idea or that all other cultures are superior to that of Europe and that to be a white European is something to apologise for?

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Is any of this true?

Petitchat · 06/10/2025 15:00

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 06/10/2025 14:43

I was thinking more about the potential implications for her of having shared such a public platform with such high profile racists. Hopefully people will recognise that she was just a child and will blame the parents, but it can be hard to break those associations once they are made.

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What's your view on being banned from school for wearing a British flag dress?

CurlewKate · 06/10/2025 15:02

Petitchat · 06/10/2025 15:00

What's your view on being banned from school for wearing a British flag dress?

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She wasn’t.

TooBigForMyBoots · 06/10/2025 15:04

IAmThePrettiestManOnMyIsland · 06/10/2025 14:54

He was exposing the grooming gangs a decade before the contempt of court case, but don't let that nugget of truth distract you.

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No he wasn't.

But he did his utmost to collapse the trials and prejudice the convictions of grooming gangs. Why would he do that if he was so concerned about victims?🤔

IAmThePrettiestManOnMyIsland · 06/10/2025 15:07

TooBigForMyBoots · 06/10/2025 14:47

I base it on the posters who back the racist flags shaggers, but won't fly one themselves. Do you have one up yourself?

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Can't say I have come across anyone who has admitted to this. Someone on MN has actually said 'I back flying flags, but I won't do it myself.'
Care to provide an example?

To be honest anyone who uses the term 'flag shagger' just immediately looses my ability to take them seriously. Are the people who parade rainbow flags, EU flags and Palestine flags all 'flag shaggers' too?

Personally, I think the entire 'raise the colours' achieves nothing politically. Nor do the Palestine protests. It's all a bit pointless.

JamieCannister · 06/10/2025 15:07

UrticaDioca · 05/10/2025 15:05

I am gutted. I haven't seen a single flag in my town, and suddenly this union jack goes up two doors over with the words 'Unite the Kingdom' printed on it in capital letters. The flag is huge and flying from a pole on top of their shed, but it's in their own garden so nothing can be done.

I am the daughter of an immigrant mother and therefore mixed race. Now I have to see this fucking flag waving at me every time I look out of my kitchen or living room windows.

Do you think that it'd be good if the UK was united and not divided?

In an ideal world (perhaps not possible for practical reasons such as safety) you should knock on his door and have a conversation and see if you can find common ground.

IMHO we need to Unite the UK, and we have infinitely more chance of uniting the country around controlled and wanted immigration, and "traditional british values and christianity" than we are uniting it around woke ideology, communism, unlimited immigration and islamism.

We all need to speak to each other, reach out, talk, listen, try to fidn common ground.

I do not support Reform by the way (and I don't believe Robinson does either). I do not support Robinson either, but I do support a fair bit of what he says and does.

Dovetail22uk2 · 06/10/2025 15:07

UrticaDioca · 05/10/2025 15:05

I am gutted. I haven't seen a single flag in my town, and suddenly this union jack goes up two doors over with the words 'Unite the Kingdom' printed on it in capital letters. The flag is huge and flying from a pole on top of their shed, but it's in their own garden so nothing can be done.

I am the daughter of an immigrant mother and therefore mixed race. Now I have to see this fucking flag waving at me every time I look out of my kitchen or living room windows.

Yes, I'd be gutted too. Regardless of what anyone else says, it's racist ideology and the marches were organised by racists who are funded by Israel. Anyone who can't see this is either stupid, racist or just doesn't want to see it for what it is. I'm really sorry you're having to put up with this xx

CurlewKate · 06/10/2025 15:07

JHound · 06/10/2025 14:56

Is any of this true?

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Well, I am delighted to see that the comment I made recently about a poster’s complaint that the BBC gratuitously brought slavery into a programme about Jane Austen has been taken on board…..

PandoraSocks · 06/10/2025 15:08

IAmThePrettiestManOnMyIsland · 06/10/2025 14:54

He was exposing the grooming gangs a decade before the contempt of court case, but don't let that nugget of truth distract you.

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Oh go away with your lies about SYL.

SYL in 2018

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/oct/19/how-tommy-robinson-put-huddersfield-grooming-trials-at-risk

The man who first exposed the gangs in 2011

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4ge33q71q7o.amp

A portrait of Andrew Norfolk wearing a suit and tie with glasses on looking directly at the camera against a grey background.

Andrew Norfolk: Times reporter who exposed grooming gang dies - BBC News

Andrew Norfolk's work revealed a pattern of abuse which led to changes in the law around convictions.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4ge33q71q7o.amp

HeadDeskHeadDesk · 06/10/2025 15:09

Pedallleur · 05/10/2025 21:43

Whilst admiring Hitler

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Well then he's got that in common with Hamas and many of their supporters at least. Mein Kampf is high on their required reading list I hear.

IAmThePrettiestManOnMyIsland · 06/10/2025 15:09

TooBigForMyBoots · 06/10/2025 15:04

No he wasn't.

But he did his utmost to collapse the trials and prejudice the convictions of grooming gangs. Why would he do that if he was so concerned about victims?🤔

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We've already established you don't like to look at evidence. It's all available online at the click of a button if you are genuinely interested in truth.

Dovetail22uk2 · 06/10/2025 15:10

JamieCannister · 06/10/2025 15:07

Do you think that it'd be good if the UK was united and not divided?

In an ideal world (perhaps not possible for practical reasons such as safety) you should knock on his door and have a conversation and see if you can find common ground.

IMHO we need to Unite the UK, and we have infinitely more chance of uniting the country around controlled and wanted immigration, and "traditional british values and christianity" than we are uniting it around woke ideology, communism, unlimited immigration and islamism.

We all need to speak to each other, reach out, talk, listen, try to fidn common ground.

I do not support Reform by the way (and I don't believe Robinson does either). I do not support Robinson either, but I do support a fair bit of what he says and does.

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I'm not sure if you are deliberately misinterpreting what "unite the kingdom" means. But yeah, you might not be a Reform supporter on the outside but they've got your heart by the sound of it. FFS people on MN are so depressing.