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Neighbour has put up huge Unite the Kingdom flag

924 replies

UrticaDioca · 05/10/2025 15:05

I am gutted. I haven't seen a single flag in my town, and suddenly this union jack goes up two doors over with the words 'Unite the Kingdom' printed on it in capital letters. The flag is huge and flying from a pole on top of their shed, but it's in their own garden so nothing can be done.

I am the daughter of an immigrant mother and therefore mixed race. Now I have to see this fucking flag waving at me every time I look out of my kitchen or living room windows.

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MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 06/10/2025 11:56

IAmThePrettiestManOnMyIsland · 06/10/2025 11:02

Just because you didn't understand the analogy...

Bless. I understood what you were attempting to do, I just thought it was a rather pathetic attempt to draw a false equivalence between things that are clearly not equivalent.

CrystalShoe · 06/10/2025 12:00

Whistledown2 · 05/10/2025 16:06

@OswaldCobblepotoh yes I am, I forgot to say Windsor Castle also fly the Union flag, forgive me for forgetting that!

They don't fly it with the words Unite the Kingdom, that's the difference. Unite the Kingdom, although it sounds nice, is TOMMY ROBINSON's campaign. It's not a fluffy let's-all-band-together statement. It's a far-right statement, from the horse's mouth. And it's dressed up in a message of togetherness so that many people won't really get what it's about. They'll just think "Yeah, stop the small boats" and put up the flag, which might be exactly what OP's neighbours have done.

PrawnPringles · 06/10/2025 12:03

We’ve had a few and any on public property I’ve taken down if I am able to. You can’t do anything about people displaying things on their own property except question their taste.

I got a flags of all nations bunting and have decorated our porch with it. It doesn’t look amazing but I’ve made my point 🤣

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 06/10/2025 12:04

CrystalShoe · 06/10/2025 12:00

They don't fly it with the words Unite the Kingdom, that's the difference. Unite the Kingdom, although it sounds nice, is TOMMY ROBINSON's campaign. It's not a fluffy let's-all-band-together statement. It's a far-right statement, from the horse's mouth. And it's dressed up in a message of togetherness so that many people won't really get what it's about. They'll just think "Yeah, stop the small boats" and put up the flag, which might be exactly what OP's neighbours have done.

I really don't know what is so difficult for people to grasp. There is nothing inherently racist about flying a flag, but it is quite obviously racist when you're flying that flag in response to a racist dog whistle.

CurlewKate · 06/10/2025 12:19

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 06/10/2025 12:04

I really don't know what is so difficult for people to grasp. There is nothing inherently racist about flying a flag, but it is quite obviously racist when you're flying that flag in response to a racist dog whistle.

Yes. And as Billy Bragg said-if you’re flying a flag for reasons that aren’t racist, like the Rugby, for example, you don’t have to reassure people that you’re not racist!

CurlewKate · 06/10/2025 12:20

I’ve just been called a “limptard” on our local FB group!

CrystalShoe · 06/10/2025 12:24

CurlewKate · 06/10/2025 12:20

I’ve just been called a “limptard” on our local FB group!

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What's that?? Is it similar to a leotard?

TooBigForMyBoots · 06/10/2025 12:30

Lol at all the posters claiming it's patriotic and cheerful, but dont fly one from their property.😆

Of course they don't as they dont want to out themselves as racist to their friends and neighbours IRL.🙈

TooBigForMyBoots · 06/10/2025 12:35

TheRealCrispConspiracy · 06/10/2025 11:18

Is tommy Robinson known for anything apart from racism, xenophobia and islamophobia? Is he a big climate change activist? Animal rights supporter? Is he campaigning for better welfare support? Anti abortion?

As far as I know everything he stands for and talks about is covered by racism, xenophobia and islamophobia. (Except maybe during the period when he had converted to islam)..if you don't support racist, xenophobic or islamophobic views then don't attend his rallies. I'm sure you can find a more relevant rally than that.

Hes well known for trying to get paedophiles off the hook and slightly less well known for being good friends with men to commit VAWG.

But mostly he's known for being a drug addled, criminal, racist grifter who got himself an Irish passport and moved to Spain after Brexit. Patriotic, my arse.🙄

JHound · 06/10/2025 12:49

CurlewKate · 06/10/2025 12:20

I’ve just been called a “limptard” on our local FB group!

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This is an update! I always used to see it written as “Libtard”

Shakeoffyourchains · 06/10/2025 12:59

IAmThePrettiestManOnMyIsland · 06/10/2025 10:00

That's not technically true. Most sensible adults have the emotional intellect to be able to separate a person from aspects of their beliefs.

I'm certain vegetarians would have a lot in common with Hitler's dietary choices, it doesn't mean they agree with the holocaust.

You know Hitler wasn’t actually a vegetarian, right?
That was a myth pushed by Goebbels to portray him as disciplined and ascetic.

But well done for showing just how effective propaganda can be and how stubbornly it sticks once it takes hold.

I'm sure there's a lesson in there somewhere.

thepariscrimefiles · 06/10/2025 13:09

IAmThePrettiestManOnMyIsland · 06/10/2025 11:37

Primarily I think he is known for exposing the grooming gangs and being ignored by the authorities for 20 years but that's another topic.

It's not for you tell people what rallies they can attend. Nor can you assume their reasons. Most people attend these protests because they don't agree with mass illegal immigration, that does not mean they are racist people. How do you explain the black and brown attendees?

He was found guilty contempt of court due to interfering with the trial of a sexual grooming gang. He's just a rabble rouser and trouble maker. He couldn't give a fuck about the victims.

CrystalShoe · 06/10/2025 13:11

We need a new flag for all the non-hating, we're-all-humans-together people. Something with a white dove, indicating peace? Something that's a collage of the rainbow/Israel/Palestine/Union Jack flags? Oh, I know - a white dove in the centre and all those flags round the outside.

CrystalShoe · 06/10/2025 13:13

PrawnPringles · 06/10/2025 12:03

We’ve had a few and any on public property I’ve taken down if I am able to. You can’t do anything about people displaying things on their own property except question their taste.

I got a flags of all nations bunting and have decorated our porch with it. It doesn’t look amazing but I’ve made my point 🤣

Brilliant!

CurlewKate · 06/10/2025 13:14

JHound · 06/10/2025 12:49

This is an update! I always used to see it written as “Libtard”

I know. I can’t decide whether it’s typo, illiteracy or neologism….

CrystalShoe · 06/10/2025 13:15

Can I just say, I don't care about anyone's skin colour, religion, weight, looks, sexual orientation, nationality, immigration status, gender, disability - I love EVERYONE. Thumbs up if you agree.

Ginandslimlinetonics · 06/10/2025 13:29

I doubt my neighbours are racist considering both sides are muslim.I live in one of those very diverse areas

EchoedSilence— just because yourneighbours are as above - does not automatically mean that they are not racist!

Petitchat · 06/10/2025 13:32

Lollipop81 · 06/10/2025 07:58

It isn’t a racist campaign, it’s a campaign to to remind people to be proud to be British, regardless of colour. I suppose it depends on your understanding of it.

Agreed.
As I keep saying, we're all entitled to different opinions but some people don't like that.
They seem to believe everyone should think their way only.

CurlewKate · 06/10/2025 13:39

Petitchat · 06/10/2025 13:32

Agreed.
As I keep saying, we're all entitled to different opinions but some people don't like that.
They seem to believe everyone should think their way only.

You are perfectly entitled to your own opinions. You are not, however, entitled to your own facts.

Grammarnut · 06/10/2025 13:42

VoulezVouz · 06/10/2025 07:03

Sources for these things you mention? Who ever said our ancestors never did anything good or worthwhile, for example?

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You don't seem to be aware what de-colonization means. It's the removal of 'dead white males (and females)', it's the 're-balancing' of history so all the bad bits are taught, some of it untruths (for example a wide-spread popular belief that England introduced both slavery and the Triangular Trade), some of it twisted. Almost anything written about Britain or Europe lately includes these tropes and variations on them, agreements that de-colonization is needed, though de-colonization only applies to European colonization not Ottoman, nor the colonization of the Levant from the 8th century by Arabs following Mohammed's injunction to spread Islam by both word and the sword.
Everything that Britain has done is blameworthy from the Agrarian Revolution to the ending of the slave trade - economic reasons for doing this are prioritized over the known moral ones to make it look as if ending the slave trade cost Britain nothing but gave it economic advantage.
Of course, that much wealth comes from the use of slaves is true in that many in the UK had plantations in the West Indies (like Sir Thomas Bertram in Mansfield Park - which adds a layer of meaning to that novel many do not pick up). Everything Britain ever did: imposing parliamentary democracy, introducing the rule of law and equality before the law in places we traded with or colonised. Everything given a gloss that it was done out of self-interest only and was always exploitative - that Britain (and Europe) raped the resources of the world and gave nothing back.
Our univerisities and our schools are teaching this with no qualification in many cases. Where do you think young people got the idea that 'globalising the intifada' (destroying Israel, that means, and Jews in general from Hamas' pov) is a good idea or that all other cultures are superior to that of Europe and that to be a white European is something to apologise for?

Petitchat · 06/10/2025 13:58

lovernotafighterr · 05/10/2025 22:20

It’s not a march in support of the UK. It’s a march hosted by Tony Robinson and you go to hear him speak. You are either racist or ignorant. I think a lot of it is ignorance personally. Ignorance is dangerous though.

It wasn't only TR speaking. He spoke very little, others including Elon Musk, spoke more.

I watched to see the young girl who had been punished at school for wearing a British Union Flag dress.

She did so well on the stage and I was pleased to see the school injustice hadn't knocked her confidence one bit 😊

ScribblingPixie · 06/10/2025 14:07

PrawnPringles · 06/10/2025 12:03

We’ve had a few and any on public property I’ve taken down if I am able to. You can’t do anything about people displaying things on their own property except question their taste.

I got a flags of all nations bunting and have decorated our porch with it. It doesn’t look amazing but I’ve made my point 🤣

Presumably everyone thinks they've made their point when they put up a flag or a poster. But others will always infer their own meaning or idea of you from your actions - and it may not be what you'd hope.

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 06/10/2025 14:09

Petitchat · 06/10/2025 13:58

It wasn't only TR speaking. He spoke very little, others including Elon Musk, spoke more.

I watched to see the young girl who had been punished at school for wearing a British Union Flag dress.

She did so well on the stage and I was pleased to see the school injustice hadn't knocked her confidence one bit 😊

The fact that Elon Musk was speaking merely underlines the extremist nature of the event.

It is utterly shameful that they would exploit a gullible teenager to further their own political agenda. One can only presume that her parents must share TR's vile agenda as no normal parent would ever let their dc make the mistake of appearing on that kind of platform.

Petitchat · 06/10/2025 14:16

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 06/10/2025 14:09

The fact that Elon Musk was speaking merely underlines the extremist nature of the event.

It is utterly shameful that they would exploit a gullible teenager to further their own political agenda. One can only presume that her parents must share TR's vile agenda as no normal parent would ever let their dc make the mistake of appearing on that kind of platform.

My mind doesn't go towards your type of thinking.
I was just happy that she got to wear her British dress and everyone supported her.

Her dad was lovely and ensured that she wanted to do it, which she did.
Good on that lovely family and well done to the girl.
🌹An English rose

IAmThePrettiestManOnMyIsland · 06/10/2025 14:19

TheRealCrispConspiracy · 06/10/2025 11:46

It's not for you to tell me what assumptions I can make about other people. If you support tommy Robinson a lot of people will think you are racist. If you care about being called racist then don't support tommy Robinson or attend his rallies.

Also, tommy Robinson did not expose the grooming gangs. Do people really believe that? He just exploited the grooming scandal to further his racist views.

Black and brown people can be racist, xenophobic and islamophobic. And ignorant.

At least you admit they are assumptions! I don't think people care about being called racist anymore because it gets thrown around so flippantly regardless of whether there is evidence to back up the accusation or not.

'Also, tommy Robinson did not expose the grooming gangs.' I suggest you watch the Triggernometry interview with TR if you are going to make a statement like this. The footage from his TV appearances raising this issue long BEFORE the grooming scandal became public knowledge is all readily available on YouTube.

I agree all races of people can be racist. I just find it curious how many people are comfortable calling attendees at these protests racist when they are standing shoulder to shoulder with different races of people who happen to be united by similar causes.