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Neighbour has put up huge Unite the Kingdom flag

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UrticaDioca · 05/10/2025 15:05

I am gutted. I haven't seen a single flag in my town, and suddenly this union jack goes up two doors over with the words 'Unite the Kingdom' printed on it in capital letters. The flag is huge and flying from a pole on top of their shed, but it's in their own garden so nothing can be done.

I am the daughter of an immigrant mother and therefore mixed race. Now I have to see this fucking flag waving at me every time I look out of my kitchen or living room windows.

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walkawayytime · 05/10/2025 18:08

SheSmellsSeaShells · 05/10/2025 15:14

I would interpret Unite the Kingdom as anti racist and in opposition to the St George flag epidemic.

Unite the kingdom is the FB page organising a large proportion of anti immigration protests

TooBigForMyBoots · 05/10/2025 18:08

IAmThePrettiestManOnMyIsland · 05/10/2025 17:47

I did follow them. I'm an avid X user because its the only place you can see the full footage as it unfolds.

You said: 'Any brown face will do.'

You've now said: 'All immigrants in the areas effected were targeted.'

So thank you for contradicting yourself and proving my point that you have no evidence to suggest people who fly flags are targeting people of colour based entirely on their race.

So you know of racist violence by flag shaggers.

I didn't say Any brown face will do, that was another poster. I did say all because that's what happened. It wasn't just brown people. I don't see how that makes it less racist.Confused

Cardiaga · 05/10/2025 18:08

YorkshireGoldDrinker · 05/10/2025 17:58

Respectfully, why do you feel so uncomfortable about a flag? This country had the good graces to accept your mother into the country so she could make a life for herself and you. So why such hostility? Would you prefer to see the nation flag of your mother's native country instead? If so, go and live there, not here.

To put it another way; if you want to live in this country, you should be proud of the country and therefore the flag of the country should mean something to you.

I feel offended that you find my nation's flag offensive.

"Oh but it has 'Unite the Kingdom' printed on it, that's the slogan of a far-right campaign." The country is extremely divided, as you've demonstrated based on your reaction to seeing a Union flag.

Respectfully, why do you feel so uncomfortable about a flag?
As the OP has said because they feel that the kinds of people who fly it are racists, and this makes them feel they are unsafe in their community

This country had the good graces to accept your mother into the country so she could make a life for herself and you.
Alternatively, this country had the good sense to benefit economically from migrant labour. I can't imagine 'good grace' had much to do with it.

So why such hostility? Would you prefer to see the nation flag of your mother's native country instead? If so, go and live there, not here.

Because uprooting your whole life and fleeing the country of your birth is the sensible thing to do whenever you object to any aspect of it. That is as rational as saying 'you're sick of the train service being rubbish? Why not leave the country and go somewhere else where it's better rather than stay here and fix the problem'.

MidnightPatrol · 05/10/2025 18:08

ImogenBrocklehurst · 05/10/2025 17:57

Really?

Yes really, had never heard of it.

Not sure where I would have - Tommy Robinson related content doesn’t really appear anywhere on my content feeds / news etc!

PeaceReacher · 05/10/2025 18:09

HeadDeskHeadDesk · 05/10/2025 17:57

I think you are misunderstanding me. I agree with you. That is my whole point. Most people are not far right and racist. It's not me calling them that, it's all the left leaning progressive types who simply cannot fathom that anyone could be a decent person with a conscience and a heart and yet still vote Reform, or want to be proudly patriotic without being told their country's flag is 'only ever' flown by the far right, and the obvious subtext that goes with that statement.

That's the danger and folly of making outrageous assumptions and accusations about the characters of huge numbers of ordinary, largely decent and blameless people instead of trying to engage with their concerns, listen to them and consider that they might actually have a valid point on a few issues.

At best, the middle class left will admit that not all Brexit or Reform voters are far right racists, just most of them, and the others are well meaning but rather dim and easily tricked. It's the typical knee jerk reaction of so called 'progressives'. It's patronising, lofty and high handed and it will shoot them in the foot yet again, just like Brexit did. Just like Gordon Brown shot himself in the foot with his 'bigoted woman' comment about Gillian Duffy.

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Gillian Duffy was a bigoted woman. She was from my home town. I never understood why he resigned over that.

sambasunsays · 05/10/2025 18:09

saveforthat · 05/10/2025 15:39

I've never seen a flag with Unite the kingdom on it but it could be taken as let's everyone in the UK unite, including immigrants. Why assume it means the opposite?

It’s literally the slogan of Tommy Robinson’s current racist campaign. Seriously, how may people on here are going to try and justify it / gas light the OP?

OP I’d be pissed off ov my neighbour did this and I’m a white woman. I don’t know how I’d feel of o was not white.
I too live on one of those areas that some MN’ers think are no-go, so you certainly wouldn’t see one here, thank God.

Seymour5 · 05/10/2025 18:10

Grammarnut · 05/10/2025 17:18

Someone has a Palestinian flag in their window near me. It says 'free Palestine' on it. No-one, afaik, has protested. I am not overjoyed to see it, but we apparently have free speech and I don't know the people. I think much the same will go for a Union flag or an Israeli one - not tested, however.

There are a couple of houses nearby with those in their window, and a house near my local supermarket has four in their front garden.

As a Scot in England, with an English DH, we see ourselves as a British family so I’m happy to see a Union Flag,🇬🇧 it’s quite inclusive IMO. My mixed race friend has no issue with it, she’s British and only rarely does she meet the hard of thinking!

The rate of change in some parts of the UK has been very rapid. Grooming gangs, Sharia law, honour killings, and Roma beggars were virtually unheard of 20 years ago. I’m not surprised there is a growing reaction to it.

One area in a city near me is very multicultural, but a big influx of Slovakian Roma has taken years to settle in. The mainly Pakistani residents have been up in arms about the effects on the neighbourhood if very different lifestyles.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 05/10/2025 18:10

TooBigForMyBoots · 05/10/2025 17:42

I take it you didnt follow the racist riots in NI earlier this year. All immigrants in the areas effected were targeted. As well as a leisure centre sheltering those driven from their homes.

Ballymena is a different kettle of fish, not defending the thuggery for a nanosecond, however a local girl was brutally raped by 3 Roma lads, Ballymena has a big roma community who lived in the area for years prior to this. I'd say certain parts of NI are the most dangerous parts of Europe for anyone who isn't born there.
Worse if you have dark skin.

lovernotafighterr · 05/10/2025 18:12

YorkshireGoldDrinker · 05/10/2025 18:04

As a (white) immigrant I dislike your insinuation that we should be grateful for the “good grace to let us in”. I’d say UK should be grateful to have me !

I believe that is called Main Character Syndrome.

I believe that is called knowing my own worth.

PeaceReacher · 05/10/2025 18:12

sambasunsays · 05/10/2025 18:09

It’s literally the slogan of Tommy Robinson’s current racist campaign. Seriously, how may people on here are going to try and justify it / gas light the OP?

OP I’d be pissed off ov my neighbour did this and I’m a white woman. I don’t know how I’d feel of o was not white.
I too live on one of those areas that some MN’ers think are no-go, so you certainly wouldn’t see one here, thank God.

I live on a multicultural street and there are no flags here. Three miles up the road they are festooned everywhere.

Chenecinquantecinq · 05/10/2025 18:12

It's the flag of this country to be ashamed of it is beyond ridiculous. Good on your neighbours.

TooBigForMyBoots · 05/10/2025 18:14

MidnightPatrol · 05/10/2025 18:08

Yes really, had never heard of it.

Not sure where I would have - Tommy Robinson related content doesn’t really appear anywhere on my content feeds / news etc!

You've been on past threads about this very issue.🤯 What's with the denial?

YorkshireGoldDrinker · 05/10/2025 18:14

PeaceReacher · 05/10/2025 18:09

Gillian Duffy was a bigoted woman. She was from my home town. I never understood why he resigned over that.

He didn't resign, he just lost the 2010 election. After 13 years of abject failure and then the global financial crash (which we still haven't recovered from btw). People get tired of the same old crap. The crash that's coming is the same can we kicked down the road after the crash.

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 05/10/2025 18:14

Ddakji · 05/10/2025 17:01

Racists, useful idiots, the odd person with legitimate concerns and no other way to express them than attach themselves to a march arranged by a known criminal and racist.

I would class those who cannot see the issues in this country and try to shut others down as a useful idiot.
All performance no fucking clue.

Emonade · 05/10/2025 18:15

SheSmellsSeaShells · 05/10/2025 15:14

I would interpret Unite the Kingdom as anti racist and in opposition to the St George flag epidemic.

i would too

Petitchat · 05/10/2025 18:16

ByShyRaven · 05/10/2025 16:18

Ah look! Here’s another one.

I can’t tell if people are gaslighting or if some people do not understand how a flag with a slogan associated with a notorious racist would be offensive and intimating to non white people.

I can spell it out. The only reason for the recent proliferation of flags in the uk, is for white people to try and intimidate nonnwhite people who they feel “dont belong here”. A lot of the them will pipe up and say “its only the boat people” they despise, but this is disingenuous.

OP: I’m sorry that your living next to racists.

You're absolutely entitled to your view.

As others are entitled to disagree...

tommyhoundmum · 05/10/2025 18:16

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 05/10/2025 15:18

It's just you.

Most people know that "unite the kingdom" reflects support for a racist campaign led by Tommy Robinson and his cronies.

I didn't know.

MidnightPatrol · 05/10/2025 18:17

TooBigForMyBoots · 05/10/2025 18:14

You've been on past threads about this very issue.🤯 What's with the denial?

I’ve never seen the phrase ‘unite the kingdom’ at all (other than maybe in sort of historical dramas maybe…?), other than in this thread.

If I saw it on a flag I’d have been clueless.

This is also the first time I’ve seen flying union jacks described as racist, previously it was just St George’s crosses.

No ‘denial’, I had no idea.

Emonade · 05/10/2025 18:17

PeaceReacher · 05/10/2025 18:12

I live on a multicultural street and there are no flags here. Three miles up the road they are festooned everywhere.

i hadn’t seen that it was a TR phrase, in which case I would feel so shit. I went back to my hometown yesterday and it was covered in flags and I cried cos I just felt so sad that it’s so hateful and so scared of whats going to happen

CountFucula · 05/10/2025 18:17

YorkshireGoldDrinker · 05/10/2025 17:58

Respectfully, why do you feel so uncomfortable about a flag? This country had the good graces to accept your mother into the country so she could make a life for herself and you. So why such hostility? Would you prefer to see the nation flag of your mother's native country instead? If so, go and live there, not here.

To put it another way; if you want to live in this country, you should be proud of the country and therefore the flag of the country should mean something to you.

I feel offended that you find my nation's flag offensive.

"Oh but it has 'Unite the Kingdom' printed on it, that's the slogan of a far-right campaign." The country is extremely divided, as you've demonstrated based on your reaction to seeing a Union flag.

Nothing respectful about this racist claptrap

Chenecinquantecinq · 05/10/2025 18:18

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 05/10/2025 15:20

It's a Tommy Robinson slogan. Hence it is racist.

No not really. People change TR is mainstream now I agree 20 plus years ago he could be considered racist.

IAmThePrettiestManOnMyIsland · 05/10/2025 18:18

Slightyamusedandsilly · 05/10/2025 18:03

Lived experience. Does that count for you?

Plus Farage wanting to deport any migrants. Legal as well as illegal.

No it doesn't. You having experienced racism does not mean anyone who flies a Union Flag is a racist. This is simple stuff.

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 05/10/2025 18:19

MiniPantherOwner · 05/10/2025 17:04

Yes, I've found that it's also handy for labelling racist businesses. There's a cattery near me that I tried to book my cats into before, but it was full. They sounded so nice on the phone that I thought I'd try again next time I'm going away. Then right after the Tommy Robinson march they've put up a massive flagpole with an England flag, no way was that timing a coincidence. My cats will not be going to a racist cattery, so it's back to the further away one.

I presume that business owners assume that as a white woman I won't be bothered, but as someone whose Polish grandparents were both in the Polish army in WW2, I will not give my money to anyone who wants to give their support to the far right.

How is Poland dealing with all the immigration lately.
Perhaps you ought to have a look at it.

Ddakji · 05/10/2025 18:21

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 05/10/2025 18:14

I would class those who cannot see the issues in this country and try to shut others down as a useful idiot.
All performance no fucking clue.

I can see the issues perfectly well. I still wouldn’t attend a march organised by Robinson, because he is a criminal and a racist.

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 05/10/2025 18:21

nosleepforme · 05/10/2025 17:05

You can get arrested for owning or displaying a British flag?! What have we come to???

Isn’t that Facism……the left keep screaming about Fascism so many they would know.

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