Why isn’t this front page news?

[Deerfolk]

If it was a church or a temple it would be seen as a terrorist attack. But because it’s a mosque it gets down graded to a hate crime.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15163567/Footage-arsonist-Mmosque-fire-police-probe-hate-crime.html

This is worse than the attack in Manchester.

I hope Starmer visits and defends Muslims against hate crime.

hollow laugh

I’m fairly sure a fire starting in the kitchen of a mosque wouldn’t be a hate crime either.

You're joking right? 😳

Lol. No idea who you think you are but ‘nope’.
(You just need to learn how to use advanced search correctly. There is a guide somewhere on MN).

YANBU, this should be a higher news priority and yes I think it would be if it were a church/synagogue

Is it really.

They're obviously on the wind-up.

In the hierarchy of news, murder obvs come higher than arson or arson/attempted murder but still, why is this not terror when the stabbings were?

Muslims must be terrified now but I’m sure Starmer will provide extra police to protect their mosques and schools.

Did somebody die?

This is lame.

Really lame.

In fairness I did see a photo of four police officers in London all spending their time arresting one elderly woman walking with a stick. Seems a bit excessive in my view

I'm somewhat nonplussed by the claim that arson attacks are treated more seriously when churches are the target. It happens all the time, but it rarely gets reported more widely than the local press. Same for vandals smashing stained glass windows.

My local church ended up paying for protective mesh to be fitted on the outside of the windows, after repeated incidents.

I often think that when I see any mass shooting in the US as to how it’s classified. The bar for terrorism is very high for white perpetrators to be seen as terrorists (the IRA) but very low for brown people (just be brown, have a dodgy internet search or say “God is great” and that will do it.)

However personally I am still waiting to see a motive for this attack.

For something to be a classified as a terrorist attack there has to be a recognised political and/or religious ideology attached to the motive and a provable allegiance to a group formed for the specific purpose of targeting the community or the state or the organisation they see as their enemies. Otherwise it's just one arsehole attacking someone or something they don't like.

As far as I know there are no formally recognised terror groups in the UK at the moment that target mosques or muslims. And if there are, then the police have not been able to make that link in this specific case.

Why do you say that?

Which organisation was the guy who attacked the synagogue a part of?

It’s still lame to suggest that people choosing to protest are the reason police were not on hand to prevent this arson attempt.

Tell MAMA reports that between June and September 2025, 17 mosques or Islamic institutions were targeted with attacks.

Yes I know, people have every right to protest (for now at least!). I’m not blaming them for this arson incident at all!

The term terrorism is now so misused it is meaningless.

Never going to happen sadly!

He and his father are known supporters of Hamas and the anti-Israel cause. And as others have pointed out, if there was no evidence to label Axel Rudakabana as a terrorist then if this man was named as a terrorist by the police them presumably they found evidence to lead them to that conclusion. Police investigating this man led to the arrest of several others I believe, Several so there must have been some sort of organised element to it.