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Please no pro Palestine marches tomorrow

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NototerrorismIntheUK · 03/10/2025 15:15

The police and others have called out in the hope that there will be no pro Palestine marches tomorrow. They are stretched and say it will divert resources from trying to protect the Jewish people following the terrorist attack yesterday.

I agree. No march tomorrow AIBU?

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NorfolkandBad · 03/10/2025 22:59

DaringlyDizzy · 03/10/2025 22:57

Apologies, its late! I meant Unite the Kingdom march. Did think what I meant was fairly obvious but alas!

Your intention was very obvious

sunflower1022 · 03/10/2025 22:59

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So the chants of ‘from the river to the sea’ mean what exactly?

Douchey · 03/10/2025 22:59

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HelenaWaiting · 03/10/2025 23:00

Aurielle · 03/10/2025 22:55

I don’t know how many times this has to be repeated. Marches are not anti Jewish, they are anti genocide.

The number of times you repeat it is irrelevant. We don't believe you.

stomachamelon · 03/10/2025 23:00

@Auriellenot all the time and not everyone.
also a lot want Israel removed and talk about zio Nazi’s.
Most Jews I know believe in the right of Israel to exist.

DaringlyDizzy · 03/10/2025 23:01

sunflower1022 · 03/10/2025 22:59

So the chants of ‘from the river to the sea’ mean what exactly?

That from one end of the state to the other the Palestinians have the right to freedom. As made clear by 'will be.... FREE'?!?!!

Anactor · 03/10/2025 23:01

DaringlyDizzy · 03/10/2025 22:48

Do you have a decent grasp of basic facts. That marches are against ZIONISM not against JEWS.

You understand stopping the KKK wasnt the same as banning christianity?

And yes, Zionism is as loosely linked to Judaism as that

Zionism is the belief that Jewish people need a homeland because anti semitism means they’re not safe in any country where they’re a minority.

If you want to equate that belief with the KKK, I’m afraid you are proving that Zionists are right. If even asking for a homeland is an act of racism, they’re not safe, are they?

And I want Jews to be feel that they’re safe in Britain. I want them to feel that it’s ok to be a minority here. I want them to feel that they can be Zionist, or pro-Palestinian, or have no opinion whatsoever about Israel.

But apparently, you don’t. You want them to accept their status as a perpetual minority. Or else.

SharonEllis · 03/10/2025 23:01

JollyLilacBee · 03/10/2025 22:54

Where are they? These Hamas billionaires?

Qatar and Turkey mostly. Google is your friend.

miserableandworried · 03/10/2025 23:01

DaringlyDizzy · 03/10/2025 22:53

No its the Zionist state that colonised their land....

What would you like to happen to the Jews in Israel? The zionists?

No one can ever seem to answer this question.

A Zionist is a person who believes Jews should have a home land, it’s not a dirty word.

Douchey · 03/10/2025 23:01

sunflower1022 · 03/10/2025 22:59

So the chants of ‘from the river to the sea’ mean what exactly?

You are literally comparing the lyrics of a song to the murder, torture, and starvation of the Palestinian people. Youre using this as justification for genocide. What is wrong with you?

stomachamelon · 03/10/2025 23:02

I would just of liked if they had respectfully delayed them for a week. Considering we also have the anniversary of Oct 7th.

Annettefromthenewsagents · 03/10/2025 23:02

Can’t even believe you have to post this. What a world.

Livelovebehappy · 03/10/2025 23:02

Justagirl95 · 03/10/2025 22:21

You must be new if you think MN is left leaning.

I’m really not. I would absolutely say whenever there is a GE looming, there are many more posts championing Labour than the Tories. Ive been on here years. Whilst the gap has narrowed a little, I would still say MN is more to the left.

DaringlyDizzy · 03/10/2025 23:02

Anactor · 03/10/2025 23:01

Zionism is the belief that Jewish people need a homeland because anti semitism means they’re not safe in any country where they’re a minority.

If you want to equate that belief with the KKK, I’m afraid you are proving that Zionists are right. If even asking for a homeland is an act of racism, they’re not safe, are they?

And I want Jews to be feel that they’re safe in Britain. I want them to feel that it’s ok to be a minority here. I want them to feel that they can be Zionist, or pro-Palestinian, or have no opinion whatsoever about Israel.

But apparently, you don’t. You want them to accept their status as a perpetual minority. Or else.

Wanting a homeland doesnt give you the right to steal someone else's and turn someone else into a displaced people

Tootyfilou · 03/10/2025 23:02

@sunflower1022 I am quite grown up thank you. I am just appalled at the quite frankly, pitifully ignorant comments on this thread. We are seeing a genocide playing out in real time on our screens. no one can say they are unaware, yet some on this thread have said its propaganda! Protesting against this is not anti semitic, its anti Zionist. Thousands of Jews worldwide are protesting against Israel's crimes in Gaza, as should anyone with a shred of humanity.

SharonEllis · 03/10/2025 23:03

DaringlyDizzy · 03/10/2025 23:01

That from one end of the state to the other the Palestinians have the right to freedom. As made clear by 'will be.... FREE'?!?!!

No. It means the obliteration of Israel because Palestine would exist from the River to the Sea.

Justanordinarywoman · 03/10/2025 23:03

Noodledog · 03/10/2025 22:56

Of course there will be marches. There were marches right after the October 7th massacre, before Israel had even responded in any way. Why would there be any respect for the victims in Manchester?

As for the "pro Palestinians" in this country, I'm not convinced that many actually care about the lives of ordinary Palestinians. If they did, there would be vocal support for the proposed peace plan. And there is none that I can see.

We believe in centering Palestinian voices, not imposing agendas onto them as Zionists and western states like to do. And there is not one Palestinian voice.

Annettefromthenewsagents · 03/10/2025 23:03

Douchey · 03/10/2025 23:01

You are literally comparing the lyrics of a song to the murder, torture, and starvation of the Palestinian people. Youre using this as justification for genocide. What is wrong with you?

You are very disingenuous.

Aurielle · 03/10/2025 23:03

HelenaWaiting · 03/10/2025 23:00

The number of times you repeat it is irrelevant. We don't believe you.

Why don’t you believe me?

DaringlyDizzy · 03/10/2025 23:04

SharonEllis · 03/10/2025 23:03

No. It means the obliteration of Israel because Palestine would exist from the River to the Sea.

Sure if you want to do the typical thing of taking their words and twisting it into a genocidal entities narrative.

JollyLilacBee · 03/10/2025 23:04

SharonEllis · 03/10/2025 23:01

Qatar and Turkey mostly. Google is your friend.

So not in Palestine then? Why aren’t Israel bombing Qatar and Turkey if that’s where the Hamas leaders are?

stomachamelon · 03/10/2025 23:04

@Doucheybecause of what it means. Do words have no power then?

Livelovebehappy · 03/10/2025 23:04

Ros456 · 03/10/2025 22:31

I am very conflicted as I just want the killing and maiming of innocent people to stop but also why should they even temporarily be governed by a random board of people inducing Trump and Tony Blair . A convicted felon and a man who entered into an illegal war leading to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of civilians with decades of repercussions. Hardly promising

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Let’s be honest here, practically anyone, apart from Putin, would be a huge improvement on Hamas.

SharonEllis · 03/10/2025 23:04

Tootyfilou · 03/10/2025 23:02

@sunflower1022 I am quite grown up thank you. I am just appalled at the quite frankly, pitifully ignorant comments on this thread. We are seeing a genocide playing out in real time on our screens. no one can say they are unaware, yet some on this thread have said its propaganda! Protesting against this is not anti semitic, its anti Zionist. Thousands of Jews worldwide are protesting against Israel's crimes in Gaza, as should anyone with a shred of humanity.

Yes anti zionism is usually motivated by antisemitism because to dently the self determination of the Jewish people is antisemitic.

Onmytod24 · 03/10/2025 23:05

Andouillette · 03/10/2025 21:42

No 'we' didn't. Not at all.

Okay, there was still anti-Jewish marches in London while we knew about the Nazi death camps.

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