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Please no pro Palestine marches tomorrow

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NototerrorismIntheUK · 03/10/2025 15:15

The police and others have called out in the hope that there will be no pro Palestine marches tomorrow. They are stretched and say it will divert resources from trying to protect the Jewish people following the terrorist attack yesterday.

I agree. No march tomorrow AIBU?

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ThatCyanCat · 03/10/2025 22:20

Aurielle · 03/10/2025 22:10

These protests are not against Jewish people, they are against the actions of Israel. My Jewish friends have made it extremely clear that they do not want to be associated with the actions of Israel. Some are pro Israel, but absolutely against the way this war has been handled.

Any sane person is against the absolutely horrific ongoing murdering of children and babies. It has to be fought. As I said in an above post, there is nothing in the world that will make killing children and babies ok - in Palestine or any country. It has to stop.

Call on Hamas to accept the peace deal.

GoldPoster · 03/10/2025 22:21

Lovehascomeandgone · 03/10/2025 21:46

Totally agree.

It’s not peaceful protest. It’s hate.

Justagirl95 · 03/10/2025 22:21

Livelovebehappy · 03/10/2025 22:17

Tbh, the demographic on MN doesn’t reflect real life. It’s an echo chamber for the left generally, but maybe not as much as it used to be.

You must be new if you think MN is left leaning.

MyHeartyCoralSnail · 03/10/2025 22:21

Justanordinarywoman · 03/10/2025 22:10

This thread is unbelievable. So opposing a genocide isn’t allowed out of respect for a terrorist attack? Opposing genocide IS opposing violence. Many marching and protesting are Jewish themselves, I know many of them. I despair at this country, so brainwashed.

Oh quit the faux nativity the protest should be abandoned. If you can’t respect the wishes of a community which has suffered a terror attack by an Islamic terrorist. When the police say it will divert resources from protecting that community, you are selfish, you don’t care about people you only care about you.

signiffig · 03/10/2025 22:21

Nestingbirds · 03/10/2025 22:12

Hamas started this latest war, they absolutely did.

It didn’t start on 7 Oct as well you know!

pumpkinscake · 03/10/2025 22:22

Anactor · 03/10/2025 22:20

And there we have it. Any UK Jewish person who doesn’t support your protests is supporting ‘genocide’.

Does that make them a legitimate target in your eyes? Is your mask slipping a bit?

Those are your words, not mine.

Aurielle · 03/10/2025 22:22

DaringlyDizzy · 03/10/2025 22:18

Why are people too thick to not see how conflating ISRAEL with JEWS is in itself anti-semitic? Zionism is a political movement.

You can care about every single jew out there and be against zionism and wish for a free palestine??

Crikey, think half of Mumsnet would pass out to realise that the group I attend the rallies with are themselves, jewish.

Precisely. This has to be said louder. My friends aren’t afraid of the pro Palestine marches, they are afraid of utterly brain dead people thinking that they are zionists because they are Jewish. It is totally separate.

The media, particularly social media, has so much to answer for. Makes me sick.

Justanordinarywoman · 03/10/2025 22:22

TalkToTheHand123 · 03/10/2025 22:19

Protests about non British interests should be banned and those who continue should be arrested.

Wow, I guess you don’t see democracy as a British value do you?

Nothernwannabe · 03/10/2025 22:23

There are 2 different things to consider here:

  1. should any further protests be permitted
  2. should there be protests tomorrow

No one seems to be addressing point (2), only point (1). I fully understand why people want to protest and why they feel very strongly about what is happening in Gaza.

What I don't understand is why the protest has to be tomorrow:

  • the police have said they don't have the resources to police the protest and protect Jewish facilities which are regarded right now as being at heightened risk
  • as a mark of respect, could the protest be postponed for a week

Can any of the people vociferously demanding to protest this weekend, explain why they can't wait a week?

MolliesMum2 · 03/10/2025 22:23

TalkToTheHand123 · 03/10/2025 22:19

Protests about non British interests should be banned and those who continue should be arrested.

I am going to assume this is satire.

SharonEllis · 03/10/2025 22:23

Nothernwannabe · 03/10/2025 22:23

There are 2 different things to consider here:

  1. should any further protests be permitted
  2. should there be protests tomorrow

No one seems to be addressing point (2), only point (1). I fully understand why people want to protest and why they feel very strongly about what is happening in Gaza.

What I don't understand is why the protest has to be tomorrow:

  • the police have said they don't have the resources to police the protest and protect Jewish facilities which are regarded right now as being at heightened risk
  • as a mark of respect, could the protest be postponed for a week

Can any of the people vociferously demanding to protest this weekend, explain why they can't wait a week?

Exactly.

AtWitsEnd21 · 03/10/2025 22:23

I’m absolutely horrified that people are calling for a peaceful march protesting a genocide that has seen the murder of 50,000 children, not to go ahead. I’m genuinely very shocked reading some of the comments here.

MyHeartyCoralSnail · 03/10/2025 22:24

signiffig · 03/10/2025 22:21

It didn’t start on 7 Oct as well you know!

No it began 2,500 years ago which the Babylonian Exile.

SharonEllis · 03/10/2025 22:25

AtWitsEnd21 · 03/10/2025 22:23

I’m absolutely horrified that people are calling for a peaceful march protesting a genocide that has seen the murder of 50,000 children, not to go ahead. I’m genuinely very shocked reading some of the comments here.

How do you know it will be peaceful? Yesterday when some of us were reeling in grief and shock a protest in london resulted in 40 odd arrests. You have absolutely no way of knowing that a march in support of a violent organisation will be peaceful.

JollyLilacBee · 03/10/2025 22:25

Livelovebehappy · 03/10/2025 22:05

Instigated by Hamas…

Nothing can justify it. Nothing can justify a 9 year old boy running to get home being shot in the head. That 9 year old boy isn’t Hamas. He wasn’t accidentally killed in a bombing. He was purposely shot in the head by Israel

Justanordinarywoman · 03/10/2025 22:26

MyHeartyCoralSnail · 03/10/2025 22:21

Oh quit the faux nativity the protest should be abandoned. If you can’t respect the wishes of a community which has suffered a terror attack by an Islamic terrorist. When the police say it will divert resources from protecting that community, you are selfish, you don’t care about people you only care about you.

What about respecting the wishes of Palestinians who don’t want their entire family to be wiped out by a 2 ton bomb? Or a child starved to death by the Israeli blockade. What about them? Why weren’t their needs respected? Marching for peace is in everyone’s interests. Not marching supports Zionism, genocide and rising fascism. It was a political choice to criminalise groups opposing genocide, resulting in the arrest of hundreds of pensioners. The government should reverse it if it doesn’t want to waste resources.

ThriveAT · 03/10/2025 22:26

Tryingtodobetter82 · 03/10/2025 21:39

We are told “freedom of speech” exists in this country, though it appears to operate on a sliding scale depending on the government’s preferred cause of the week.

It is remarkable how selective public outrage can be. During WW2, Approximately 2 million German civilians were killed, and cities like Dresden were entirely destroyed. Curiously though, no mass protests marched through London demanding the government stop targeting Nazi Germany because innocent people were caught in the middle. Back then, everyone seemed perfectly capable of distinguishing between the regime responsible and the tragic civilian cost.

Yet now, when Hamas openly attacks Israel, as they did on 7 October, some people find it easier to rally against Israel’s response than to acknowledge who initiated the violence. I can only assume that empathy is far easier as it was not your daughters / babies / sisters put through what they went through and videoed by Hamas and cheered by 100’s of Palestinians on their return. I should imagine your feelings towards this war would be some what different if that were the case.

And we are constantly assured these marches are “peaceful,” of course. The “river to the sea” chants, the Hamas flags, the open support for a terrorist group are apparently just incidental décor. But apparently pointing that out is the real offence. Because naturally, the presence of even a single Hamas sympathiser does not undermine the purity of the message at all.
Meanwhile, Israel is still fighting for the very simple reason that Hamas has not surrendered or shown the slightest inclination toward peace talks. But yes, by all means, keep acting as though this is some spontaneous and unreasonable decision on Israel’s part.

There are multiple active conflicts across continents you could protest for if consistency were the goal. Yemen, for example, is still very much a war zone. Christians are being driven out or killed in certain countries, feel free to pick one if you can be bothered.

But no, all attention just happens to be fixed on this one. Nothing whatsoever to do with antisemitism, obviously, pure coincidence, I am sure.

And then there is the small matter of local Jewish communities being targeted in the immediate aftermath of terrorist attacks committed by Hamas supporters. But sure, let’s pretend that is unrelated.

Imagine, reversing the scenario. A major date in the Catholic calendar, a terrorist who supports Hamas carries out multiple stabbings, and within days hundreds of people pour onto the streets publicly backing the ideology he claimed. I do wonder what the national reaction would be if that were to happen.

It is funny how persecution elsewhere, Christians being wiped out, wars in Yemen and beyond, fails to inspire weekly marches or performative outrage. So many global atrocities available for protest, yet somehow only one inspires this level of commitment.

Perhaps those who feel so passionately should consider protesting in the regions they claim to represent. It would be fascinating to see just how appreciated their efforts are when they are not shouting from the safety of a UK street.

Bollocks

MyHeartyCoralSnail · 03/10/2025 22:27

AtWitsEnd21 · 03/10/2025 22:23

I’m absolutely horrified that people are calling for a peaceful march protesting a genocide that has seen the murder of 50,000 children, not to go ahead. I’m genuinely very shocked reading some of the comments here.

Seriously, you’re shocked that people ar asking for compassion for a community who have just suffered a terrorist attack. But you don’t care about those people do you? Is it because they are Jewish?

SharonEllis · 03/10/2025 22:27

Justanordinarywoman · 03/10/2025 22:26

What about respecting the wishes of Palestinians who don’t want their entire family to be wiped out by a 2 ton bomb? Or a child starved to death by the Israeli blockade. What about them? Why weren’t their needs respected? Marching for peace is in everyone’s interests. Not marching supports Zionism, genocide and rising fascism. It was a political choice to criminalise groups opposing genocide, resulting in the arrest of hundreds of pensioners. The government should reverse it if it doesn’t want to waste resources.

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And how exactly will a march in London in support of a violent organisation help them?

ThatCyanCat · 03/10/2025 22:27

Justanordinarywoman · 03/10/2025 22:26

What about respecting the wishes of Palestinians who don’t want their entire family to be wiped out by a 2 ton bomb? Or a child starved to death by the Israeli blockade. What about them? Why weren’t their needs respected? Marching for peace is in everyone’s interests. Not marching supports Zionism, genocide and rising fascism. It was a political choice to criminalise groups opposing genocide, resulting in the arrest of hundreds of pensioners. The government should reverse it if it doesn’t want to waste resources.

Edited

Marching for peace? So the march is to call on Hamas to accept the peace deal?

MyHeartyCoralSnail · 03/10/2025 22:27

ThriveAT · 03/10/2025 22:26

Bollocks

No exactly a great argument

DaringlyDizzy · 03/10/2025 22:28

MyHeartyCoralSnail · 03/10/2025 22:27

Seriously, you’re shocked that people ar asking for compassion for a community who have just suffered a terrorist attack. But you don’t care about those people do you? Is it because they are Jewish?

How is marching for a free Palestine not showing compassion for the jewish community?

Aurielle · 03/10/2025 22:28

JollyLilacBee · 03/10/2025 22:25

Nothing can justify it. Nothing can justify a 9 year old boy running to get home being shot in the head. That 9 year old boy isn’t Hamas. He wasn’t accidentally killed in a bombing. He was purposely shot in the head by Israel

This is exactly what I have tried to repeat in this thread with not much response, as it seems people want to continue to argue.

Nothing in the world will ever justify adults doing this to children. Ever.

murm · 03/10/2025 22:28

MyHeartyCoralSnail · 03/10/2025 22:21

Oh quit the faux nativity the protest should be abandoned. If you can’t respect the wishes of a community which has suffered a terror attack by an Islamic terrorist. When the police say it will divert resources from protecting that community, you are selfish, you don’t care about people you only care about you.

No community gets a say in what others can or can't do. Sorry, but there's a genocide going on. Two people being killed (in a horrible, senseless attack that I deplore) doesn't mean the world stops. You want people to look away from the continued massacre and starvation of children and civilians?

MyHeartyCoralSnail · 03/10/2025 22:29

DaringlyDizzy · 03/10/2025 22:28

How is marching for a free Palestine not showing compassion for the jewish community?

I’m not sure whether to laugh or cry. You clearly have zero understanding of the situation. Your comment is so stupid I’m not even sure how to respond.

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