Please no pro Palestine marches tomorrow

[NototerrorismIntheUK]

The police and others have called out in the hope that there will be no pro Palestine marches tomorrow. They are stretched and say it will divert resources from trying to protect the Jewish people following the terrorist attack yesterday.

I agree. No march tomorrow AIBU?

I don’t at all agree that the marches contributed to the appalling attack. The marches are protests against government policy - Israel’s government, and to a lesser extent our own. Nothing to do with Jewish people, who will themselves have a wide range of opinions on these issues.

I believe the right to protest is a crucial element of democracy.

I wouldn’t think pro-Israel marches should be cancelled either if there had just been an attack on a mosque. Do you?

But you don't have march after a heinous act of terrorism when Jewish (& probably muslim).communities need protection and need police resources.

The potential for serious violence clearly hasn’t crossed your mind?

We don’t want this in our country, thank you.

This. They can dress it up anyway they want and make as many excuses as they want but that is exactly what they are

its sickening.

Yes, because we have freedom of speech. Peaceful protest is our democratic right.

I'd like to keep it that way. I'm not sure what it says about you that you can't accept different points of view.

Like others have already said, what happened yesterday in Manchester and what is happening in Gaza is equally atrocious.

We are able condem both as unnecessary violence.

You can’t call for peace? Free the hostages? Hamas surrender? Right now that would stop everything! Why no call for this? Nor even do you aknowledge OPs suggestion of any stopping the war by Hamas terrorist laying down weapons and freeing the hostages?
You know there’s a peace plan proposal but so many ‘apparent peace marchers’ want to ignore this.

You do if you are being affected by the killing of thousands of Palestinians, which I challenge you not to call a daily hit of heinous acts.
British Jews have nothing to do with Israel, and their genocide against the Palestinian people why should the march not go ahead?

For everyone who can't understand why Palestine Action is considered a terror threat and has been proscribed, read below from Dan Jarvis, Minister for Security:

"Some of those holding placards in support of Palestine Action may not know the extent of its activities. It has conducted an escalating campaign involving intimidation and sustained criminal damage, including to Britain’s national security infrastructure. Some of its attacks have involved the use of weapons, resulting in alleged violence and serious injuries to individuals. Palestine Action’s members have been charged with violent disorder, grievous bodily harm with intent, actual bodily harm, criminal damage and aggravated burglary—charges that include, in the assessment of the independent Crown Prosecution Service, a terrorism connection.

These are not the actions of a legitimate protest group, and for a Government to ignore expert security assessments, advice and recommendations would be highly irresponsible. Were there to be further serious attacks or injuries, questions would rightly be asked about why action had not been taken".

And now think again about whether the police can simply ignore those "retired people with cardboard signs"

https://hansard.parliament.uk/commons/2025-09-08/debates/5FF141EC-DE6E-4A17-AD2B-121416D0681B/PalestineActionProscriptionAndProtests

Lots of nice posters on here so no need to take much notice of that. Anyone resorting to personal attacks loses credibility quite quickly

So do you not believe in the right to peaceful protest?

This is what I meant earlier when I said the responses are scary! This to me is a fringe opinion but the majority of posters on this thread are saying something similar.

It's literally on the news and can be found on nigel farrages YouTube channel as 'farrage responds to Manchester attack' but you carry on ignoring facts and join in with antisemitism.

You do not need a set percentage of the population to be killed for the definition of genocide to be met. The UN Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide (1948)—is pretty clear in that any of a number of acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group is a genocide. If you look at the Bosnian genocide which international courts said was a genocide, around 8,000 Muslim men and boys were murdered—far fewer in absolute numbers, yet it met the legal threshold because of intent and targeted destruction.

Leading genocide scholars say as much e.g. Raz Segal, described Israel’s actions in Gaza as a “textbook case of genocide.” and Omer Bartov warned that the scale of killing and displacement in Gaza bears “the clear markers of genocidal warfare.”

Holocaust survivors themselves have spoken out but these are probably people who have hit their heads somewhere and clearly antisemitic e.g. Hedy Epstein sadly said before her death that collective punishment of Palestinians reminded her of “what was done to us.”

On intent Israel’s senior officials have repeatedly used dehumanising language—Defense Minister Yoav Gallant calling Palestinians “human animals” and pledging a “complete siege” (“no food, no water, no electricity”), which genocide scholars point to as classic genocidal rhetoric.

Can I add that some argue it isn’t a genocide as the saintly peace loving only democracy in the Middle East give “aid” to Palestinians. Providing some aid or issuing evacuation orders does not negate genocidal intent. The Israeli government is simply trying to deflect international scrutiny.

If only this peace loving democracy would allow international journalists in so that they can add to the evidence that there is clearly no genocide. But since this government under Netanyahu are so full of care for the lives of journalists they don’t want them in Gaza.

Luckily you don’t get to decide what ‘we’ want in our country. The right to protest is a key part of living in a democracy.

Who would be responsible for any serious violence? There has been no serious violence on any previous pro Palestine protest so why would tomorrow be any different?

So that means you can't? Fecks sake.

Palestine Action’s members have been charged with violent disorder, grievous bodily harm with intent, actual bodily harm, criminal damage and aggravated burglary—charges that include, in the assessment of the independent Crown Prosecution Service, a terrorism connection.

Charged - not found guilty in a court of law yet and whilst we are in this country, they are innocent until proven guilty. Are we saying only guilty people get arrested? Really?

Clearly they agree with Trumps play book
Hes a disgrace to democracy

You do not need a set percentage of the population to be killed for the definition of genocide to be met

Exactly. If you go by that standard then Srebrenica wouldn't qualify and others as well. Plus it's ongoing in Gaza. It's not like it's stopped.

355 bullets for one wee girl.

Palestinians are seen as insects by those in the IDF who create kill zones and kill all living things in them. The doctors, paramedics, women and children who have been killed are hopefully at peace now.

Hell must have no demons there as they are here on earth.

I can't believe that our society has reached the stage where people in UK were murdered in a terrorist attack
and the response is for the virtue signallers to don their scarfs and march.

fucking shameful

Absolute crap.

2 people dead, one of them NOT a terrorist, just someone shot dead by the police who also shot and didn't kill another person who was NOT a terrorist. Maybe you want to rephrase that, along with "any support for Palestine is anti-semitic." It's the same rubbish that Netanyahu comes out with. It isn't just a lie. It creates anti-semitism.

Amazingly enough, you can act like a terrorist and kill tens of thousands of people even when you wear a nice clean government-issued uniform and get paid leave and a pension. And I'm not talking about British police marksmen.

There's a peace deal on the table. All it's waiting for is Hamas' signature.

absolutely.

Go on your marches then, wear your pound shop keffiyeh, we see you. We see your hatred, we see how thrilled you are to be marching to chants to "globalise the intifada". You are showing us who you are - and you disgust us.

I agree Jews that assimilated were persecuted.

But you are playing right into the hands of antisemites by agreeing with their taxonomy. Are you suggesting that Ethiopian Jews are the same ethnicity as Ashkenazim?

Antisemitism as we know today and the creation of this term itself was an attempt to rationalise religiously reasoned Jew-hatred into modern (pseudo) 'scientific' ideology. Skulls were measured, and 'hooked noses' are still a feature 'anti Zionists' love to point out this is pure and simple race science, yes, but you appear to be giving credence to this.

Zionists were mostly self hating Jews in the beginning, seeking to distance themselves from religious Jews. Was it not Hertzl who wrote "Mauschel, on the other hand, is a distortion of human character, something unspeakably low and repugnant" Seeking to distance themselves from religious Jews, and yet accepting the race theory that categorised them, their solution was to say that as a race they must have a nation. Nationalism is born around the same time- the idea of race and national identity (the very thing that leads to the holocaust) is used by Hertzl and co to make the Jews a race and nation

It is not antizionists that point out hooked noses- unless Hertzl was both a Zionist and an anti-Zionist. It is antisemitism.

Judaism is a religion. You can convert, you can marry out, you can marry in. My family assimilated after escaping pogroms to come to the UK in 1890, so you can, you know leave the religion. And no one, absolutely no one should ever be persecuted for their religion. But race theory, taxonomies and pseudo science that supports nationalism and racism should be consigned to the bin too.

Did you know that you can move to Israel as a non religious Jew , and as a convert, but a Jew that has converted to Christianity can not be accepted. But by your logic the Christian is still a Jew and isn't that what Hitler would have said.

Falling back on race theory to assert a distinct Jewish ethnicity is dangerous at worst and lazy at best.

I don't understand? So thousands of people have been murdered in palestine but people are supposed to keep shtum because 2 people in UK were murdered by a madman?

Either you're all bots all people have seriously lost their minds