Page 22 | Please no pro Palestine marches tomorrow

Justagirl95 · 03/10/2025 19:39

DrPrunesqualer · 03/10/2025 19:33

I’ve found nothing either and the only celebration with people dancing etc was some footballers on a train celebrating a win
Nothing on the major news sites either and you’d think at least one U.K. outlet would pick up posts from social media if something this hateful actually happened

I like to see the facts as there’s so much proporganda out there it just fuels more and more hate

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That was my thinking too!

I have seen a couple shared on FB but they had the AI warning thing. Unfortunately my new friends @willyoujustbequiet and @Greenmouldycheese aren't able to provide any!

I completely agree - you have put if far more eloquently then I could but I agree with you 100%

cassandre · 03/10/2025 19:40

I haven't read the whole thread, but condemnation of the Israeli genocide and antisemitism are two entirely different things.

As long as Israel carries on slaughtering the Palestinian people, there need to be protests.

ChelseaBagger · 03/10/2025 19:41

Yes, many of the Palestine Action protesters are retired people with handmade placards who pose no threat to anyone.

But also, some of them aren't. A significant enough number to warrant the group being proscribed.

I understand the frustration in trying to find a meaningful, legal vehicle to protest about the atrocities in Gaza. But Palestine Action is not it. Especially not this weekend.

jeremyclarksonsthirdnipple · 03/10/2025 19:41

Khan has been asked to stop the march ..lets see what excuse he comes up with to why he won't.

Liverpool2025 · 03/10/2025 19:42

NototerrorismIntheUK · 03/10/2025 19:38

What on earth are you on about! There are a number of conflicts going on around the world by the way. There are also hundreds of thousands starving in other countries in case you missed it.

This terrorist attack was in the UK by a terrorist who somehow seemed to blame UK Jewish people for a conflict in the middle east. Its not their fault. Screaming free Palestine in the UK every Saturday or on Jewish holy days (yesterday) does nothing to help Palestinian people. Maybe urge Hamas to accept a peace plan.....that would ACTUALLY HELP Palestinians. Maybe try something that might work. These marches feel hate filled.

I mean calling to globalise the intifada is basically calling for what that scum did yesterday in Manchester. That's disgusting.

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The difference with this genocide and others in other parts of the world is that the Palestinians simply cannot leave. They are shot in the sea and on land.

"Hamas accept a ceasefire." WAKE UP.
What do you actually mean? The Palistinians will be shot be murdered regardless of what Hamas do.

miserableandworried · 03/10/2025 19:43

DrPrunesqualer · 03/10/2025 19:35

The ceasefire deal earlier this year was agreed on by both parties
That could have been a good deal for everyone

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But that is a temporary solution. Then what?

Hamas are not going to change their mission for the sake of a few protests hundreds of miles away by people who they wouldn’t piss in if they were on fire.

Hamas statement of purpose-

"Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it"

Liverpool2025 · 03/10/2025 19:43

Also there are huge protests ( against the genocide of the Palestinian people) in Israel. People see the PM for the devil he is.

DrPrunesqualer · 03/10/2025 19:44

Justagirl95 · 03/10/2025 19:39

That was my thinking too!

I have seen a couple shared on FB but they had the AI warning thing. Unfortunately my new friends @willyoujustbequiet and @Greenmouldycheese aren't able to provide any!

I completely agree - you have put if far more eloquently then I could but I agree with you 100%

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CEM posters always ask and rightly require evidence
Whether they are pro Israeli or Pro Palestinian makes no difference

Never believe anything without proof.

Plus check the evidence. Something was posted a while ago about Gazans eating chocolate waffles in a market. The same image was dated many years before 2023. Proporganda is rife

Justagirl95 · 03/10/2025 19:49

DrPrunesqualer · 03/10/2025 19:44

CEM posters always ask and rightly require evidence
Whether they are pro Israeli or Pro Palestinian makes no difference

Never believe anything without proof.

Plus check the evidence. Something was posted a while ago about Gazans eating chocolate waffles in a market. The same image was dated many years before 2023. Proporganda is rife

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The amount of propaganda and misinformation being shared across platforms is terrifying. People believe anything they see without giving it a second thought.

Although, be careful - you will be called a flat earther next.

DomPom47 · 03/10/2025 19:49

OnlyFoolsnMothers · 03/10/2025 19:14

Literally it’s terrifying that people like you exist- Hamas don’t want land they want all Jews removed from earth, after which they will move on to gays, blacks, moderate Muslims, western women.
Wake up!

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The extremism is clearly all one sided. Let’s forget about Lehava: a far‑right Jewish supremacist group. Let’s forget the peace loving Hilltop Youth: extremist youth settlers who have committed amongst other things arson and vandalism without any legal consequences.

Hamas has spontaneous come about thanks to the only peace loving democracy in the Middle East creating a loving coexistence with the Palestinians. Thats why Yitzhak Segev reportedly said “The Israeli government gave me a budget, and the military government gives to the mosques.” - this to support the Islamic movement as a “counterweight” to the PLO. Oh and Avner Cohen in a 2009 interview said “Hamas, to my great regret, is Israel’s creation.”

ThriveAT · 03/10/2025 19:49

NototerrorismIntheUK · 03/10/2025 15:15

The police and others have called out in the hope that there will be no pro Palestine marches tomorrow. They are stretched and say it will divert resources from trying to protect the Jewish people following the terrorist attack yesterday.

I agree. No march tomorrow AIBU?

'Please no genocidal complicity in the UK.' That would be the title of my thread.

RoamingToaster · 03/10/2025 19:50

The protests are against another government and their treatment of the Palestinians. I think they should go ahead as I don't get the reason not to allow them. They're not protests against Jews. The police should absolutely prioritise the safety of the Jewish community given what has happened.

cramptramp · 03/10/2025 19:52

They are a total waste of time anyway, just a hobby for the participants.

OnlyFoolsnMothers · 03/10/2025 19:53

DomPom47 · 03/10/2025 19:49

The extremism is clearly all one sided. Let’s forget about Lehava: a far‑right Jewish supremacist group. Let’s forget the peace loving Hilltop Youth: extremist youth settlers who have committed amongst other things arson and vandalism without any legal consequences.

Hamas has spontaneous come about thanks to the only peace loving democracy in the Middle East creating a loving coexistence with the Palestinians. Thats why Yitzhak Segev reportedly said “The Israeli government gave me a budget, and the military government gives to the mosques.” - this to support the Islamic movement as a “counterweight” to the PLO. Oh and Avner Cohen in a 2009 interview said “Hamas, to my great regret, is Israel’s creation.”

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Answer me who would Israel attack if Hamas were defeated?

Justagirl95 · 03/10/2025 19:55

Willyoujustbequiet · 03/10/2025 19:38

Clearly hit a nerve but if the cap fits I suppose.

There's no point in engaging further. Denial is a River in Egypt as they say.

I would say enjoy the rest of your evening googling but something tells me you're not going to look very hard. Feel free to have the last word lol.

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Ooh this is really awkward, the expression is "if the shoe fits" 😬😬😬😬😬

Maybe pick up a book, it might help 😘

Strangerthanfictions · 03/10/2025 19:56

DramaLlamacchiato · 03/10/2025 15:17

There was one in Central Station in Glasgow yesterday

In response to the glaswegians unlawfully captured in international waters and detained by Israel. Totally illegal and nothing to do with murders elsewhere in the country.

legalseagull · 03/10/2025 19:57

HappyGolmore2 · 03/10/2025 15:24

There's a genocide happening. People have the right to express there feelings about that, regardless of what else is going on in the world.
It is possible to abhor both the murders in Manchester and the genocide happening in Gaza, simultaneously.

Well said. Also - supporting Palestine doesn’t mean you’re bloody antisemitic!

The horrific attack shows what ‘terrorism’ actually is… it’s certainly not pensioners holding paper signs that should be arrested under the terrorism act

Anyahyacinth · 03/10/2025 19:58

Cathandkin · 03/10/2025 15:46

Nobody is "shutting them down". What has been requested is a measure of sensitivity and empathy.
Which is clearly beyond them.

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The events aren’t related ..one is an awful murder/s, the other a genocide of thousands being protested in what way are you linking them?

SalonDesRefuses · 03/10/2025 19:59

Longtimelurkerfinallyposts · 03/10/2025 16:15

Palestine solidarity demos have continued happening in Glasgow and across Scotland, especially in light of the Israeli forces' violent attacks on and eventual interception of the global Samud flotilla (and kidnapping of activists) which was an attempt to deliver humanitarian aid to Gaza.

There's absolutely no contradiction between being opposed to/ critical of the ongoing genocide being carried out against Palestinian people, and being opposed to/ critical of anti-semitic attacks being carried out against Jewish people. The root cause of both is racial hatred and prejudice.

I note that only three people were actually killed in Manchester, and only one of these was killed by the perpetrator of the attack. Many thousands of people have been deliberately killed by the IDF in Palestine, many of them children (disproportionately targeted, along with health workers and journalists), and many more are currently starving, with barely any access to shelter, clean water, medical facilities, education etc etc.

If you're not outraged about this, you're part of the problem. Pretty much every Jewish person I know has been heavily involved in campaigning against the actions of the Israeli state, and for the rights of the Palestinian people. Some of them have been labelled as 'anti-semitic' and 'terrorist' by the UK police for doing so.

Exactly this.

I'm not going to pretend that antisemitism doesn't exist, but people accusing you of being a terrorist simply because you do not believe in the mass killings of innocents...it's outrageous.

There is not one tiny part of me who blames Jewish people for this. I blame the governments. The people who DO try to take this out on either Jewish or Muslim people are completely wrong and deserve to be charged for inciting racial hatred.

People talk about compassion, yet they have no compassion for children starving to death.

The only thing I will say, is that I think the march could have been postponed to allow families to grieve and stop idiots using it as an excuse just to cause trouble.

Remember after Southport, Muslim women were told not to go out alone because of fear of being attacked. Likely by the type of people who all of a sudden need to put flags up to show how proud they are of being British. Anyone non-white is a target whether they were born here or not. Apparently THAT isn't inciting hatred though.

Flopsy145 · 03/10/2025 19:59

I don't think there should be any pro Palestine matches point blank, what makes Palestine more special than the many other countries currently going through attrocities. Police are trying to protect a group of people deliberately attacked in our country, protecting British born people of all religions should be the priority given the state of the world and the wild leftist bollocks going on

Livelovebehappy · 03/10/2025 20:00

HappyGolmore2 · 03/10/2025 15:50

'The British left care far more about the Palestinians than they do about Britain.'

That's a sweeping statement, and also - total bullshit, if you forgive my language. Calling for an end to a genocide is hardly radical.

It is radical when it manifests itself into the hatred we saw on the marches yesterday. People openly shouting that they didn't give a fuck that Jews had died. People are beyond fed up of these tedious marches every weekend. They achieve nothing but division and intimidation. Awful people who hate the UK. Why are they here!?

ChelseaBagger · 03/10/2025 20:00

Anyahyacinth · 03/10/2025 19:58

The events aren’t related ..one is an awful murder/s, the other a genocide of thousands being protested in what way are you linking them?

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The relevant link this weekend is that the police are saying they don't have the resources to offer support to the Jewish community if they're occupied with the protests.

Anyahyacinth · 03/10/2025 20:02

MollyMollyMandy33 · 03/10/2025 19:16

It’s even more disgraceful not to have the emotional intelligence and human decency to realise that marches tomorrow will only inflame the hate even further. It’s not necessary. It will also draw scant police resources from protecting Jewish people in the UK, which is clearly needed right at this moment.

I am in no way suggesting that Jewish people are any more deserving of protection than any other group, but right now, they arguably need it more following this terrorist attack. I would feel the same about any other group of people in the UK.

I am not Jewish, but like many others am utterly sickened by the violence on both sides and the actions of the Israeli government and Hamas.

Your comment demonstrates exactly why this conflict is so hard to see an end to.

Yes you have a right to protest any day, tomorrow included. Doing so through will do nothing for your cause and will just whip up even more hate, on both sides.

A degree of intelligence would suggest that this is the last thing that is needed at the moment.

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Very many Jewish people attend the marches and deplore the genocide

Livelovebehappy · 03/10/2025 20:02

eqpi4t2hbsnktd · 03/10/2025 16:03

You can disagree with the murder of Jews and the murder of Palestinians...

But we all know that's not the reality...

Glistening · 03/10/2025 20:03

MysteryNameChange · 03/10/2025 16:19

This thread is terrifying. I've not even been on a pro pal march and it's making me want to go on one.

Omg this! Can these anti-march posters all be real do you think? So many seem to have very extreme views of the kind that I wouldn’t really expect to see on a milquetoast forum like this. Or am I in a bubble and this level of authoritarianism is mainstream now?