Please no pro Palestine marches tomorrow

[NototerrorismIntheUK]

The police and others have called out in the hope that there will be no pro Palestine marches tomorrow. They are stretched and say it will divert resources from trying to protect the Jewish people following the terrorist attack yesterday.

I agree. No march tomorrow AIBU?

Thank you. Lazy people who can't be bothered to look at any of the videos even though there are plenty available.

Hamas have shown zero interest in s peace deal because they have publicly said over and again for the last few decades that they will settle for nothing less than the end of Israel. How can you possibly strike an agreement with that position??

Hamas need to be removed unless they can negotiate in good faith. At least for the good of the people they are supposed to be representing.

It’s even more disgraceful not to have the emotional intelligence and human decency to realise that marches tomorrow will only inflame the hate even further. It’s not necessary. It will also draw scant police resources from protecting Jewish people in the UK, which is clearly needed right at this moment.

I am in no way suggesting that Jewish people are any more deserving of protection than any other group, but right now, they arguably need it more following this terrorist attack. I would feel the same about any other group of people in the UK.

I am not Jewish, but like many others am utterly sickened by the violence on both sides and the actions of the Israeli government and Hamas.

Your comment demonstrates exactly why this conflict is so hard to see an end to.

Yes you have a right to protest any day, tomorrow included. Doing so through will do nothing for your cause and will just whip up even more hate, on both sides.

A degree of intelligence would suggest that this is the last thing that is needed at the moment.

But more than half do. Because if you think it’s only 50% you’re naive. It’s actually 50%. Who are prepared to admit it. I guarantee you the figure will be much higher.

But even if it isn’t. You know that if you’re standing in a room with two Muslims, at least one is likely to be homophobic, a terrorist sympathiser, add a 3rd into the mix and one in 2.5 believes that a woman should obey her husband, so is probably an abuser into the mix.

And you wonder why people attach these views to the Muslim population?

These aren’t small numbers Half the Muslim population in the UK think like this. You know, like half the population voted for brexit?

In fact if you look at those figures, plenty of people said the numbers were too small, so the brexit vote should be discounted. By that logic, if the same number are terrorist supporters as voted remain, then the anti terrorist view needs to be ignored no?

Is your husband also a terrorist supporter as well as a homophobic bigot? And given he has “old fashioned views” do you obey him like the good little wife?

When you say “don’t tar us all with the same brush” in the same sentence as quoting those figures, you are defending those views. Because of how high those figures are.

So it's don't-postpone-the-march-in-the-wake-of-antisemitic-murders bad, but not accept-the-peace-deal bad.

Oh, what is it that Netanyahu is hoping to achieve?

Nice try with the personal insult about my lack of education but I'm a lawyer🤣.

Run along now.

Most of us care about Gaza. Most of us care about the Jewish community. Most of us would like a peace deal, and to see an end to this war. Then you have the nut jobs intent on stoking even more division.

I agree. There’s also a huge amount of cognitive dissonance - many of these people happily waving Palestine flags will be the first to sneer at someone with a St George’s flag. And will be super concerned that the St George’s flag may make some people uneasy or uncomfortable, yet refuse to accept the Palestine flag will have the same effect on some people.

I'm pointing out why people might not be cheering on this particular deal as if it's the answer to every problem, and that if it fails, it's not just because of one side.

The genocide isn't going to pause because of this incident. The killing of Palestinians continues. The USA is encouraging Israel to step up the campaign that most of the world have called unacceptable unless Hamas agree to Gaza basically becoming Trump's personal colony, Israel has already tried to sabotage the 'deal' by saying they'll not be withdrawing from most of Gaza and that they will prevent 2 state solution by force if necessary, meaning it's increasingly unlikely Hamas will agree the deal.

In the light of that, calling for the genocide to stop, whether that be through this awfully biased 'deal' or through Israel finally abiding by international law, is a priority.

Of course the marches should continue.

Shame you don't have the link! In that case I'll disregard everything you've have to say. If you make totally false claims it is up to you to provide proof.

I absolutely believe you, you seem very well educated and intelligent.

They have to continue protesting, don’t they? The atrocities being carried out in Gaza do not stop. If it was me I would be marching to put an end to all violence not just against Palestinians but against Jewish people too.

i can’t believe people were celebrating the Manchester atrocity. The world has taken a turn for the worst. We are turning into monsters.

Those of you who will be marching and chanting “free Palestine”, what exactly do you want to happen to the Israeli people? Because Hamas what 100% of the land, so where do you think the Israelis to go?

Hamas’ 1988 "Hamas Covenant of the Islamic Resistance Movement" spelled out their position and they have never renounced their goal. Even after they tried to placate the west with the 2017 “amendment” to 2 state solution ( an amendment was never published)

the covenant begins with this statement of purpose:

"Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it"

What do you want Isreal to do?

Thank you.

They're just flat earthers.

They just double down even when the evidence is staring them in the face. Its a lack of maturity really.

Imagine if people had just decided the time to protest against Apartheid was 'over'. Imagine if the Civil Rights leaders in the USA in the 60's had just given up.

But a core difference is that nobody protesting these issues was calling for the destruction of South Africa or the USA as countries. They were calling for reform. While not all people on the pro Palestine marches are calling for the destruction of Israel, some clearly are.

This would be unacceptable were it any other country being talked about. But - in an entirely unrelated point - Israel is the world’s only Jewish state. How can people really not join the dots?

Isn’t it the truth that on every thread those sniping “educate yourself” sound absolute closed-minded fools.

You're lucky to be living in a country where such marches go ahead, the supporters of terrorism seem to think they can demonstrate in this country with impunity rather than having the cajones to protest somewhere more relevant.

Another nuanced argument from the lawyer!

I’ve found nothing either and the only celebration with people dancing etc was some footballers on a train celebrating a win
Nothing on the major news sites either and you’d think at least one U.K. outlet would pick up posts from social media if something this hateful actually happened

I like to see the facts as there’s so much proporganda out there it just fuels more and more hate

Thank you, yes I saw the update. My praise came a little too soon!
All very unpleasant, and concerning.

The ceasefire deal earlier this year was agreed on by both parties
That could have been a good deal for everyone

I think they feel like they cannot admit they are wrong so willfully ignore all evidence. There are so many news reporters talking about the riot and celebration, i dont understand how they havent seen any of it? Do they now watch the news at all? Lack of intelligence might be another reason too.

What on earth are you on about! There are a number of conflicts going on around the world by the way. There are also hundreds of thousands starving in other countries in case you missed it.

This terrorist attack was in the UK by a terrorist who somehow seemed to blame UK Jewish people for a conflict in the middle east. Its not their fault. Screaming free Palestine in the UK every Saturday or on Jewish holy days (yesterday) does nothing to help Palestinian people. Maybe urge Hamas to accept a peace plan.....that would ACTUALLY HELP Palestinians. Maybe try something that might work. These marches feel hate filled.

I mean calling to globalise the intifada is basically calling for what that scum did yesterday in Manchester. That's disgusting.

Clearly hit a nerve but if the cap fits I suppose.

There's no point in engaging further. Denial is a River in Egypt as they say.

I would say enjoy the rest of your evening googling but something tells me you're not going to look very hard. Feel free to have the last word lol.