Please no pro Palestine marches tomorrow

[NototerrorismIntheUK]

The police and others have called out in the hope that there will be no pro Palestine marches tomorrow. They are stretched and say it will divert resources from trying to protect the Jewish people following the terrorist attack yesterday.

I agree. No march tomorrow AIBU?

Fucking hell way to twist what I said. My first thought wasn't about Muslims it was about pointless protests that won't help and only inflame the situation. So no i don't agree with the protests at any time especially now.
It's appalling that people are being killed by racists or terrorists for whatever reason they think justifies their actions.
I said about Muslims and migrants because people will use it as an excuse for more violence and division. Unlike you I haven't placed one race or religion above another.

Is he or is he not Jewish?
Is he or is he not prominent?

This is what is going to happen.

I am not a fan of Reform but Farage is brilliant at managing this sort of thing. He doesn’t actually need to change any laws, ban the marches etc. This government is truly hopeless. They could grab this by the balls and show they are able to manage what could be a turning point.

GOVERN THE COUNTRY YOU TWATS

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Oh for goodness' sake. So if you're a Jew who believes that a state of Israel should exist or a two state solution you're fair game? The only acceptable Jew is a non-Zionist one? Absurd.

It may not seem much to ask, I agree, but the people of Palestine don’t want much either
They’d like to stop bringing starved and killed and for Israel to leave them alone.
For once
They'd like to be left to live in peace just as you do too

Its much harder for them to get that and that is why people around the world are marching
This weekend is crucial and they should not be stopped and attempts at shaming them are simply terrible

Because they don't care about the Jewish people being terrorised anywhere in the country, it's just that doing it in Manchester shines a blazing sunbeam on what 'from the river to the sea' and 'death to the IDF' actually mean. It makes the virtue signalling that bit less shiny.

@ZamaZama sometimes it's completely appropriate though.

I hope it brings the country to a standstill.

I agree.
There have now been multiple pro-Palestine marches, you've had your say.
It's not the time to be publicly chanting for the eradication of the homeland of the Jewish people at a time when the Jewish community feels increasingly unsafe in this country.

& that's the point! You haven't seen it in the news!
Total bias across most of the UK media with it's relentless focus on the actions of the 1 Jewish country not Nigeria or Sudan or China or Afghanistan. That is antisemitism in it's simple form.

Shocking news that a military power designed exclusively to protect its sovreignty is more proficient at killing than Jihadis.
Who knew.

It’s incredibly offensive to conflate people, including Jewish people and holocaust survivors, who speak out against the targeting of children with drones by the Israeli military with terrorists and antisemites. (Most of) the international community has recognised the Palestinian state, the UN has recognised that there is a genocide taking place. It is not antisemitic to believe that children should not be murdered.

No one should be celebrating the horrific antisemitic terrorist attack that took place yesterday in Manchester, and I agree that it would be respectful at this time for all protests to stop for a short period. The government calling a National day of mourning might help. But to say that all protests in support of Gaza’s children should cease indefinitely is totalitarian nonsense. I find everything the far right protest for abhorrent but they still have a right to do it while we live in an open and free democracy.

As we can see from around the world, oppression does not end terror attacks, it does not end racism, antisemitism, or Wars.

I also think it’s very racist to make children pay for the terrorist affiliations of their parents. To suggest the innocent have to die to rid the Middle East of Hamas is one of the reasons what is happening is being characterised as genocide, hating someone based on where they were born and who their parents are! A lot of what is going on would be described as antisemitism if it were happening to Jewish children and I’d hope their would be the same outcry if the children of any nation were being treated in such away including our own.

Looking at modern warfare, we can only pray our children are never in the same position. Shame on all terrorists and shame on all those who seek to silence people speaking out to support dying and maimed children.

@DrPrunesqualer Other countries can do what they like. Our gov has asked for it not to
go ahead, I agree with them & do not think it's a lot to ask. We will just have to disagree

Insignificant to most I'd say!

Is the Jewish community only comprised of Jews who support Israel and go to the right synagogues or is it all Jewish people?

Has that particular poster said other things that give you reason to confidently assert (well, imply) that there’s more to what she said?

If so, would be good to refer to that so the rest of us don’t think it’s just an unjustified and unfair personal attack.

I don't think anyone would want this country to muffle free speech, but decency, a moral compass and considerate ethics are also part of British Culture. The key issue is the nature and underlying demands of the Pro Palestinian messaging.

For every 10 people chanting 'stop the genocide', there are 100 shouting 'from the river to the sea'. The root of the messaging has violence at its heart and is grounded in hatred. Until being 'Pro Palestinian' becomes about wanting peace and putting pressure on Hamas to negotiate, it's difficult to see the marching as anything other than inciting violence and hatred.

Yes - I do know what whataboutism is is.

You called the mention of the slaughter of Nigerian Christians a 'pro - Israel trump card' which I think is highly distasteful.

Unfortunately, there is so much suffering in the world at the moment - and guess what...much of that is outside of Gaza.

But where are the protests?

If the BBC platformed the Greens even a fraction of the amount they platformed Farage’s various endeavours then he would be a lot less insignificant

I'll join the march if it calls for Hamas to accept the peace deal. That's what we all want, isn't it? Peace, an end to all the killing of innocent Gazans and Israelis, the return of the hostages and a Gaza not run by Hamas? If it's not perfect we can work on changing it further once there's peace, but that's got to be the priority, right?

Right?

But if he bans it then people will be howling about free speech & the Right to Protest, and running to J D Vance & calling him a fascist! He’s between a rock and a hard place on this one!
The organisers should just cancel the marches as a show of respect. All sorted!

I mean Zionism is literally colonisation so yes, if someone is a Zionist regardless of their religion (because many evangelical Christians are also Zionist) then they are in the wrong. They still don't deserve to be killed or attacked or anything like that, please don't get me wrong. However the theory of Zionism is and should be heavily criticised.

No it isn't, it's called having some basic decorum. All this sort of behaviour does is stoke division further. I cannot fathom why ANYONE would want that!

You're right, people do have freedom to protest. Just like I have the freedom to think they're an absolute cretin if they do.

My comment was replying to your views about marches in general, not specifically the marches this weekend

Why wouldn’t your congregation want the general marches happening? People are protesting against the murder of innocent children and against the Israeli government. Not Jewish people