Please no pro Palestine marches tomorrow

[NototerrorismIntheUK]

The police and others have called out in the hope that there will be no pro Palestine marches tomorrow. They are stretched and say it will divert resources from trying to protect the Jewish people following the terrorist attack yesterday.

I agree. No march tomorrow AIBU?

The pro pal marches have been an utter failure so far, considering the war is still very much raging.

So maybe accept that the march this weekend isn’t going to make any difference either, as Netanyahu couldn’t give one flying fuck what John from Barnet thinks about his policies.

The Jewish community do however feel targeted and intimidated and terrified at the site of the constant mobs every week (me included). Sure not everyone is inciting violence, but any chants of ‘globalise the intifada’ are directly calling for violence against Jews.

Well the Intifada has been globalised now, and my community in Manchester have been the victim of it.

No doubt there will be more of this same chanting this weekend, and no doubt there will be more attacks sadly because our government are too spineless to do anything to tackle the hate.

Look at the videos of the Manchester Jewish community booing Lammy today, and you’ll see how our mourning community feels about these ongoing protests.

Genuinely asking do you know what whataboutism means because how did you get me denying the high death toll of from extremism, which if you know anything should be aware isn’t just towards Christians.

The pro pal marches have been an utter failure so far, considering the war is still very much raging.

Quite

Hardly a prominent Jew. He's not practicing or involved in the Jewish community or holds any elected position. Definitely not representative of the community!

Absolutely.

Presumably, someone who thinks Hamas should accept the peace deal.

Who is ‘we’?
As for hate marches, do have a view of the many interviews with Tommy Robinson marchers that are circulating. A great deal of hate on display.
We must be using different dictionaries for the word ‘decency’.
It is indecent to ethnically cleanse and starve a population and to send a genocidal government weapons.
It is indecent to use the internet to make weird threats about how ‘we’ are ‘not going to tolerate’ things and to talk about ‘serious violence’

Isreal hasn’t stopped bombing, blockading or shooting at innocent people, so why should we stop protesting it?

I’d agree with protests in Manchester being postponed for a week, but it is not relevant anywhere else.

I'm not in favour of ethnic violence and murders of any kind.

Surely I can say so?

Look at the videos of the Manchester Jewish community booing Lammy today, and you’ll see how our mourning community feels about these ongoing protests.

It doesn't matter how our neighbours here feel because Isreal, Gaza, blah, blah, blah

Ah I see. In that case, maybe try reading a book? You can tell you get your "facts" from facebook memes.

Then you can chat with the grown-ups 😘

And yet from the period 1990-2020 (which covers 3/4 of the time period of your list), it’s widely estimated that Palestinian civilian deaths outnumber Israeli ones 30 to 40 times. So for every Israeli civilian death there are 30-40 innocent Palestinians killed.

So given your post took up about half of a page, the list of Israeli atrocities would cover the whole thread up to Page 15.

I’d agree with protests in Manchester being postponed for a week, but it is not relevant anywhere else.

why Manchester & not elsewhere?

Can we just stop with ‘we see you’ as a way to cast aspersions on posters who haven’t actually said anything hateful?

It was done to me (on a thread completely unrelated to this topic) and it’s just shitty.

Our Jewish community don’t feel targeted, because they are there, protesting against genocide…

Two things can be true at the same time. People are right to think that what happened in Manchester was senseless and evil. And those involved need to feel the full force of the law. Equally people have the right to protest. People have the legal right to show their issues with apartheid and a genocide. Let’s think about the fact that entire Palestinian families have been wiped out. Let’s also reflect on Palestinian grief. Throughout the holy month of Ramadan the bombings and murdered continued in Gaza. People should be able to acknowledge both these truths. There are Jewish people at these marches including Holocaust survivors and their families. There are Jewish people fasting outside parliament to draw attention to the events in Gaza.

A prominent hypnotist perhaps! 😂

Then you can chat with the grown-ups

Well that won't include you then 😜

Yes, 1948. A person in the British Government drew some lines on a map and created Israel.

I wonder if posters know that Christians live in Palestine and are also murdered by the IDF. There are some terrorists in Palestine but that does not call for all men, women and children to be exterminated as it happening.

I studied at Yad Vashem and a genocide by fire and bombs is the same as a genocide through gas.

But you’re not actually explaining why protesting murder is anti-Semitic? It’s beyond hypocritical to say we should honour and respect the dead of the attack in Manchester but it is not welcome on ‘our’ streets (I am also white British if that’s what you are implying, they are ‘my’ streets too) to protest attacks killing other innocent people. So because a radicalised/mentally unwell man kills 1 person in Manchester we should all just accept slaughter in Gaza, is that your point? If you read more than just the Daily Mail you’d find that the vast majority of British and European people do not support Israel’s actions in Gaza. This is not an issue of ‘foreigners bringing hate to our streets’ as you so imply (copy paste from a Daily Mail headline?) but quite the opposite. People also have a right to protest, whether you like it or not.

‘Your’ Jewish community who are joining these protests are a tiny, fringe minority of Jews. I attend Heaton Park synagogue, and I can assure you that not a single member of that synagogue wants the marches to go ahead. It’s doubly traumatising.

Every human being is worthy of empathy.

I am capable of feeling sad and disgusted about the terrorist attack on the Jewish community yesterday AND angry about the actions of Netanyahu and the IDF against Palestinian civilians.

I will not be forced to choose a definitive 'side' when there are glaring issues from both and I will not turn a blind eye to atrocities, no matter the victim.

Can we call him by his proper name of Hypnotits.

YABU.

The notion that you must be anti semitic if you support Palestine is disgraceful. Anti Zionism is not the same as anti semitism and people trying to shut down any conversation by using that line dont care about true anti semitism like Manchester.

But do you condemn Netanyahu?