To think the Manchester terrorist attack today shows the growing Anti-Semitism

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... and how Jews are not protected in this country.

??? KS hasn't sided with Hamas. Recognition of Palestine is contingent on the release of hostages and Hamas playing no part in the future of Palestine.

We have to stop this binary thinking. There are no good guys in the conflict between the Israeli government and Hamas. There's just wanted war criminals and terrorists. You don't have to pick a side, other than the side of the innocent Gazans getting massacred, the hostages being taken by both sides, the worshippers in Manchester yesterday.

A two state solution is not controversial or radical or pro-Hamas. It was the position of the previous Conservative government, and the position of the current Labour government. For there to be a two state solution, Palestine needs to be a state. For Palestine to be recognised as such, Hamas have been told to stand down and clear out. Whether they will or not, God knows. But if they don't, there is no recognition of Palestine by the UK government.

Rhetoric like this is unhelpful. Yesterday's act was no one's fault other than the terrorists'.

I actually think there are a lot of people who will never forgive the Jews for the Holocaust.

It's certainly been growing on this board since Oct 7th

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You’re going to need to expand on that. Forgive the Jews for what exactly?

Not my fault you infer the wrong things from them.

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Genuine question: do you think Jews are a different species??
I am actually incredulous that there are people who actually think this way about a group of people. Is this what you have been taught about Jewish people? Is it what you actually believe?
I am a Jewish person and have friends of every faith and colour, children who are half Asian, and integrate quite fine into all aspects of British life.
You sound unhinged at best.

For having been genocided and victimised so terribly. That's why so many of them try to weaponise the Holocaust against the Jewish state and Jewish people, and invoke it when trying to claim themselves as victims. They wish they could claim that victim status.

Absolutely sick, but true.

The Haredi do have worrying issues, like other religious communities who are very closed-off (Amish, some types of evangelicals etc) with sexual abuse, women's roles, lack of ability to speak English in some cases making integration harder if they want to leave, among others

Just bc they don't affect us doesn't mean we should ignore. Obvs also the Haredi are a tiny group.

Note To Anti-Semites : Do NOT equate problems in the Haredi community with terrorism & grooming gangs. They are NOT comparable

In today's papers those hiding in the synagogue are described 'British Jews' or simply 'Jews'. The murderer isn't described as a 'British Muslim' or a 'Syrian' but as 'British with Syrian descent'.

Which one sounds more British?
The Syrian who was born and bred in Syria and then later granted British citizenship? Or those people in the synagogue who were born and bred in the UK but happen to be Jewish?

Words matter. The UK is antisemitic.

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"Plus the Gaza war is a war. It is NOT a genocide"

Well it is a genocide according to the International Association of Genocide Scholars. It is live streamed to us daily before our eyes.

Wow the negative comments towards my post, says ALOT about the types of people responding.

Hate is ugly

Pardon me, what?

How many Jewish people have murdered people in the UK?

Imagine reading a similar post about Muslims!

I second that. Can you explain @ThatCyanCat

I wonder where this Islamophobia proposed bill is now.

Something’s gone very wrong in this country with the fox being welcomed into the hen house. Someone said on another thread to watch out, Jews are the canary in the coal mine. I foresee this country being Balkanised as now we have a significant proportion of the population who do not just reject Western values, but seek to obliterate them and destroy practitioners of other religions into the bargain.

Agreed.

I'm disgusted that the planned protest for Saturday is going ahead, even after an appeal from the police to cancel it.

Riiiight…

upthread you say that hamas are stealing the aid that Israel is supplying.

Where did you get that from? Because if we’re wary of the UN, I’m assuming you have an undoubtable source for this.

And your assertion that this isn’t a genocide…what is your source for that?

Hint: can’t be FP…

You are big on pushing the spectre of ‘Arab money’ infiltrating things. Are you as aware of Israeli influences? Russian? American?

I think it was badly phrased but it sounds like she's referring to Jewish-Muslim relations specifically.

I suppose pp thinks Jews should reach out but the way things are I think Muslims should, if anyone,,given the fear many Jews understandably feel.

Just need to say that Bradford does not have "mainly Muslim schools". Overwhelmingly majority of Muslim children are in state schools.
I really wish people would Google things to fact check before they declare it "a problem".

It sure is.

Explained at 10.13.

Not Bradford then, I am sorry. But I think this is happening in other areas.

Presumably you mean secular state schools, since Muslim state schools also exist?

What you have been through is horrific, and I cannot speak to your trauma, but some of these statements are a-historical and bigot isn’t just a word wielded in superiority. People literally die as a result of bigotry festering in society and gov policy so it is not something to be dismissed.

and piling on this poster for not knowing something is definitely the right way to foster a spirit of integration, isn’t it?

Her post was clearly meant to show her own personal experience and attacking her for clumsy wording isn’t the right way.