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Autistic child attacking DD

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HollandAndCooper · 02/10/2025 16:25

Hi all,

just looking for advice re the above. DD started reception at the beginning of September. She's a confident child and had no issues starting until recently.

3 times in the last 2 weeks an autistic boy has assaulted and attacked DD.
the first occasion was pinching her on her cheek leaving a mark and bruise. She was climbing on the adventure frame in the playground when this happened. Totally unprovoked.
the second occasion, he kicked her on her shin leaving a horrible bruise.
3rd occasion (today) the child in question has hit DD on her head so hard it's left a mark.

I picked her up and she was utterly hysterical.

I am so incredibly angry. I know this child has SEN but as a lot of you will relate, when someone attacks and hurts your child it rages you like nothing else. The first occasion I was angry but as understanding as can be. Now 2 and 3 more times have happened, I'm losing my patience.

it's a very small and Intimate village school, one class per year and is only reception - y2. There is no where else for the boy to go in the school because of this.

all incidents have been noted but I've now demanded a safeguarding investigation take place as he's gunning for my DD. I've been told they're doing their best to 'keep them apart.' My daughter doesn't need to be kept apart from anybody, he needs keeping away from her.

i know who the mum is. At drop off whilst waiting for the gates to be opened this child constantly presses on the intercom, bangs and punches the notice board. The mum just stands there and doesn't say anything. I know conventional discipline won't work with all SEN children, but do I speak to the mum about this? I am so angry that my 4 year old little girl cannot have her right to a safe learning environment due to this child. I have no idea if he's attacked other children.

please don't take this as a thread to hate on SEN. I am neurodiverse myself, and DD most probably is to and is on the correct pathways.

has anyone else been through this, does anyone have any advice? In reality I'd like the boy to be expelled as we're 4 weeks into her schooling life and my daughter has been assaulted 3 times. But who am I to demand that.

im at a loss on what to do. My confident, happy little girl who has loved going to school is now getting upset at drop off and is hysterical at pick up. I'm just heartbroken for her.

I know fights and scraps are normal for young kids, but this is not in the realms of normal.

any advice will be greatly received.

thank you

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AppleT1zer · 04/10/2025 17:25

SleepySquirrel52 · 04/10/2025 17:24

Yes that the correct quote now, not sure why you had to exaggerate it previously.

Violence and anarchy was present already and absolutely nothing was being done. Constant injuries to all the smallest kids that he picked on/went for. As I said there were so many meetings and requests for measures. He needed a 121 minimum but nursery staff just minimised/nothing they can do, he's sen and can't help it... Can't talk about another child further. Can you make sure your children have long sleeves on to protect their arms as he likes to bite/scratch. It wasn't acceptable to had to force their hand.

Not teenagers yet but the strategy worked, it went from daily acts of violence and injuries, our children all miserable going in, we were really worried about a future and having to move our child to a school well out of area not in the village out of fear this would just be the way it was going to be.

He didn't finish out the nursery and wasn't on the intake to the primary. I do hope he's somewhere that can properly care and support for his needs - it wasn't his fault

However you dress it up and excuse it it’s despicable.

AppleT1zer · 04/10/2025 17:26

standtallskyfall · 04/10/2025 17:24

The same stands in my opinion and the child that did that to your son absolutely should have been removed. I am glad the other measures did work though. Unfortunately measures don't work when dealing with ND children.

That’s completely incorrect.

standtallskyfall · 04/10/2025 17:26

AppleT1zer · 04/10/2025 17:24

So meeting the needs of disability is a cash cow- got it!

You do realise that all the parents of SEND and disabled children want is for their children to have an equal footing and chance at an education.

All I wanted was my child to be able to go to school without getting battered.

sosorryimnotsorry · 04/10/2025 17:27

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No I won’t piss off thanks! Your attitude towards disabled children is disgusting! You should be fucking ashamed of yourself.
I’d love for you to walk half a mile in the shoes of some of the parents we support. You might learn a few life lessons.

standtallskyfall · 04/10/2025 17:27

AppleT1zer · 04/10/2025 17:26

That’s completely incorrect.

The same measure taken with the NT child will NOT work with the ND child. hence they come in every day and terrorise the other kids and the teacher's hand are tied.

AppleT1zer · 04/10/2025 17:28

sosorryimnotsorry · 04/10/2025 17:27

No I won’t piss off thanks! Your attitude towards disabled children is disgusting! You should be fucking ashamed of yourself.
I’d love for you to walk half a mile in the shoes of some of the parents we support. You might learn a few life lessons.

I’ve reported the post.

AppleT1zer · 04/10/2025 17:28

standtallskyfall · 04/10/2025 17:27

The same measure taken with the NT child will NOT work with the ND child. hence they come in every day and terrorise the other kids and the teacher's hand are tied.

You absolutely do not know that and it’s a hugely abelist thing to say. ND is on a spectrum.

Uggbootsforever · 04/10/2025 17:28

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My child being attacked?

SEN has had its fair share of funding and then some. If they want to jig it about and change the set up, go ahead, but public goodwill is running out for throwing yet more billions at an issue which just seems to grow and grow with no improvement in outcomes.

Meanwhile I will do exactly what you are doing - focussing on what’s best for my children, and brazenly advocating for them.

The utter disdain some posters have shown for OP’s DD is not inspiring compassion for your own kids - you only have yourselves to blame.

Uggbootsforever · 04/10/2025 17:29

sosorryimnotsorry · 04/10/2025 17:27

No I won’t piss off thanks! Your attitude towards disabled children is disgusting! You should be fucking ashamed of yourself.
I’d love for you to walk half a mile in the shoes of some of the parents we support. You might learn a few life lessons.

You said ‘boohoo your child is being attacked’ to OP whose little DD is distraught.

How dare you.

Kirbert2 · 04/10/2025 17:29

standtallskyfall · 04/10/2025 17:26

All I wanted was my child to be able to go to school without getting battered.

and parents of SEND children just want them to go to school and have their needs be met. When that happens, SEND children who are prone to violence are less likely to be violent.

Unfortunately, that rarely happens straight away as it does take time. Of course SEND parents don't want their child hurting other children.

SleeplessInWherever · 04/10/2025 17:30

sosorryimnotsorry · 04/10/2025 17:27

No I won’t piss off thanks! Your attitude towards disabled children is disgusting! You should be fucking ashamed of yourself.
I’d love for you to walk half a mile in the shoes of some of the parents we support. You might learn a few life lessons.

Don’t rise to it. She wouldn’t be able to walk a mile in my shoes, she wouldn’t make it out the front door. I know that for a fact.

She might be full of disdain and attitude, but I’m safe in the knowledge our kid would make her life a fucking misery and she’d be crying by the end of the week.

She won’t be ashamed of herself because these sorts never are.

sosorryimnotsorry · 04/10/2025 17:30

Uggbootsforever · 04/10/2025 17:21

SEN is one of those things like the NHS where we could just keep throwing billions at it and it would never be enough and outcomes wouldn’t change. The issue is at the root, not the branch.

or perhaps we should deal with the root of some of the revolting, discriminatory views held by some on this thread.

teaandcupcake · 04/10/2025 17:30

standtallskyfall · 04/10/2025 17:26

All I wanted was my child to be able to go to school without getting battered.

Yes and that can be done if the child with SEN is properly supported.
This is what I dont understand.. people offering solutions that will keep OPs child safe and stop this from happening but thats met with a 'no thats not good enough because it doesnt punish the disabled child and their mother and i want their lives to be made harder!!'

Just shows that its not actually about what is best for OPs DD at all.

standtallskyfall · 04/10/2025 17:30

sosorryimnotsorry · 04/10/2025 17:27

No I won’t piss off thanks! Your attitude towards disabled children is disgusting! You should be fucking ashamed of yourself.
I’d love for you to walk half a mile in the shoes of some of the parents we support. You might learn a few life lessons.

You might learn a few yourself when your child is in A&E begging you not to send them to school in the morning because "Ben" will get them again.

I don't care what disability your child has, if he breaks my child's nose and hurts multiple other children, you bet your bottom dollar I will do my best to get him removed.

Uggbootsforever · 04/10/2025 17:30

sosorryimnotsorry · 04/10/2025 17:30

or perhaps we should deal with the root of some of the revolting, discriminatory views held by some on this thread.

It’s NOT discrimination to not tolerate your child being attacked.

Uggbootsforever · 04/10/2025 17:30

standtallskyfall · 04/10/2025 17:30

You might learn a few yourself when your child is in A&E begging you not to send them to school in the morning because "Ben" will get them again.

I don't care what disability your child has, if he breaks my child's nose and hurts multiple other children, you bet your bottom dollar I will do my best to get him removed.

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

teaandcupcake · 04/10/2025 17:31

teaandcupcake · 04/10/2025 17:23

@Uggbootsforever Regarding spending, i dont know what the answer is.

So in my situation- child age 5. Autistic. Violent. Very delayed and learning difficulties.
Special school not an option. Mainstream has to provide a lot of support to meet his needs and keep him (and everybody else) safe.

Should they be able to say 'No. Sorry. That's too expensive and, since he'd be dangerous without support, you have to keep him at home. He's not entitled to education because he will hurt people now we've decided not to supervise or support him properly.'

In that case, he stays at home with me. 24/7. I do not have the qualifications or experience to know how to educate him. As result he does not develop or progress anywhere near the level he would in a proper educational facility. Support outside of school (like speech or other therapy) is non-existent so it is entirely on me. I now have to leave my job. I now have to claim universal credit. Indefinitely.

Thankfully that didn't happen. He got a full-time 1-to-1 TA with his ehcp (according to some on here, stealing resources from other children), so has a far better education than I could ever provide at home. As a result, his progress has been absolutely brilliant, he can read, his speech and language has come on amazingly, he has some amazing strategies to manage behaviour and emotions. I have been able to continue working rather than relying on benefits.

I just dont understand how anybody could think the former option would have been better?
Is that really the better option?

Edited

Again if anyone would like to answer this?

standtallskyfall · 04/10/2025 17:31

teaandcupcake · 04/10/2025 17:30

Yes and that can be done if the child with SEN is properly supported.
This is what I dont understand.. people offering solutions that will keep OPs child safe and stop this from happening but thats met with a 'no thats not good enough because it doesnt punish the disabled child and their mother and i want their lives to be made harder!!'

Just shows that its not actually about what is best for OPs DD at all.

The child not being in my daughter's class to hurt her will stop it from happening. I couldn't care less after that.

SleeplessInWherever · 04/10/2025 17:32

Uggbootsforever · 04/10/2025 17:28

My child being attacked?

SEN has had its fair share of funding and then some. If they want to jig it about and change the set up, go ahead, but public goodwill is running out for throwing yet more billions at an issue which just seems to grow and grow with no improvement in outcomes.

Meanwhile I will do exactly what you are doing - focussing on what’s best for my children, and brazenly advocating for them.

The utter disdain some posters have shown for OP’s DD is not inspiring compassion for your own kids - you only have yourselves to blame.

Our son was attacked by a NT kid a few months back, I don’t hate all of your children. And before you try and blame him, he wasn’t doing anything wrong. The kid mimicked his stimming and kicked him for a laugh.

Stop pushing your shitty experience onto a wider group of children, who have got absolutely nothing to do with it.

Uggbootsforever · 04/10/2025 17:35

teaandcupcake · 04/10/2025 17:31

Again if anyone would like to answer this?

Ultimately I think we need to find out why so many children are now delayed and aggressive but I appreciate that doesn’t answer your situation specifically

Kirbert2 · 04/10/2025 17:36

standtallskyfall · 04/10/2025 17:31

The child not being in my daughter's class to hurt her will stop it from happening. I couldn't care less after that.

Children wouldn't be getting attacked in the first place if the system worked differently and those children prone to violence were able to access support, even special school if necessary from the very start of school.

Of course, this would probably cost more money so some people would be against it despite it benefiting all children.

Avantiagain · 04/10/2025 17:36

"SEN has had its fair share of funding and then some."

You have showed that you don't understand funding.

teaandcupcake · 04/10/2025 17:36

standtallskyfall · 04/10/2025 17:31

The child not being in my daughter's class to hurt her will stop it from happening. I couldn't care less after that.

This is my point.
So my child, age 5 with the speech/language/understanding of a 12-month-old could also have hurt children if he wasnt being properly supported and supervised.
I cant imagine the school not doing their job properly, allowing him to hurt other kids, then telling me he has lost right to education and I have to keep him at home.

Although I guess you all probably think you could un-autism him by having firm boundaries or something. I would love to see all the 'parents cause their childrens disabilities' trying to reason with a boy the size of a 5-year-old with the language and understanding of a 12-month-old. I think it would definitely be a humbling experience for them!

AppleT1zer · 04/10/2025 17:38

Maybe Ugg could explain how leaving 10 out of 30 children in a class without adequate SEND support that meets need is going to help them , the other 20 and the country as a whole.

standtallskyfall · 04/10/2025 17:39

Kirbert2 · 04/10/2025 17:36

Children wouldn't be getting attacked in the first place if the system worked differently and those children prone to violence were able to access support, even special school if necessary from the very start of school.

Of course, this would probably cost more money so some people would be against it despite it benefiting all children.

Like I said, I do not care. Children ARE being attacked and hurt badly. Parents of children being abused in school have every right to step up and try get the child removed so it STOPS!

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