Meet the Other Phone. Protection built in.

Meet the Other Phone.
Protection built in.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To hate being asked this question in early dating

301 replies

yeahokayyythen · 02/10/2025 11:25

I'm a single parent I've been split from my ex since my child was 4. We have a good co parenting relationship and he is and always has been very involved in his life and is a great dad.

I've recently started dating again currently been chatting to a guy for the last few days. Anyway he asked me last night if my child lived me.. I said yes of course and asked why. He then replied saying how he felt like it was a question he had to ask. I then asked why? Because I just felt like it was an odd question. And he then replied saying as he didn't want to assume anything that's all, then went on to say may I ask how things are with the dad. Am I being overly sensitive here thinking these are personal questions and find it odd how he's asking when he haven't even met up. I've had these kind of questions before and they really bug me.

OP posts:
Jellybunny56 · 02/10/2025 14:42

MainframeMalfunction · 02/10/2025 14:39

If he’s someone who considers a walk or a coffee too expensive and effortful and that is his level of interest in the OP, and he feels entitled to her life story before he decides whether she is worthy of this, then this should make the decision very easy for her not to entertain meeting him. Who does he think he is, some kind of Adonis that she should have to convince that she is worthy of his time for a short introductory meeting in person? Some people here really need to raise their bar.

😂 Who wants to go on a walk or for a coffee with a stranger they have no interest in seeing again?

Slimmernow · 02/10/2025 14:45

Alideascope · 02/10/2025 14:23

Not on first date or before imo. Bit presumptuous acting like he's auditioning OP before they even know if they like each other. He's acting like the ball is totally in his court, it's gauche. Shows a lack of manners and charm that would put me right off. Second date onwards is different.

But everyone is auditioning / profiling each other from the minute they read their online dating profile, thru first texts, to calls etc - everyone’s needs, boundaries and non-negotiables are different and you can call ‘Next’ at any moment if you know something isn’t compatible with your lifestyle, values or expectations.

Sooner rather than later IMHO.

MainframeMalfunction · 02/10/2025 14:46

This reply has been withdrawn

This message has been withdrawn at the poster's request

MainframeMalfunction · 02/10/2025 14:46

EarthaKittsVoice · 02/10/2025 14:37

We don't know if the guy the OP is talking to knows the age of her child or when the relationship with their father ended. These are similar questions to asking - How is the relationship with their father? Does your child live with you?

Going by what you have said on this thread these are all personal questions that are inappropiate. We do not know what the Ops dating profile says nor do we know what this guy has said on his profile.

I asked further questions once matched which is what I think this guy is doing with the OP.

Interrogating complete strangers like this before even meeting them is bizarre in the extreme and totally inappropriate. I presume you found a large number of people unmatched you once the Spanish Inquisition began, and rightly so.

It would have been quicker for you to meet them for a ten minute coffee before you started trying to find out their life stories. Why bother when you might not like each other at all anyway? And obviously anybody with any decent boundaries would have found it weird and overly invested and intense and rude to behave like that to a complete stranger so you probably weeded yourself out for a lot of people by being so invasive and odd.

Did you also ask them about how they envisaged dividing up housework once you lived together and have children? Got to check you’re “compatible” after all, before wasting ten minutes meeting somebody. Was there a questionnaire to fill in?

LEWWW · 02/10/2025 14:48

Normal questions. Probably doesn’t want any drama of a high conflict dad and is checking you’ll have enough time to actually date, these may be non negotiables for him so he’s asking before you meet/he invests himself, sensible.

Jtfrtj · 02/10/2025 14:50

yeahokayyythen · 02/10/2025 11:38

Do I 🤣😭

Yes. And dare I say a little self centred, looking at things purely from your own point of view. You’re talking about how YOU feel it’s invasive, but why do you feel you shouldn’t be questioned on such things? He’s asking you politely and respectfully.

I wouldn’t want to waste my time on a man who has no time for me or have a difficult ex partner who would make things difficult for me. When you have kids and enter the dating world you have to accept that (in the nicest possible way) children and lurking exes are merely seen as baggage initially to potential matches. That’s not to say blended families can’t work but it’s a battle one would prefer not to have if given the choice

Errahstop · 02/10/2025 14:52

Jeez some of you are just so excited to be offended. INTERROGATED! DEEPLY PERSONAL QUESTIONS! For gods sake the poor chap just wanted to know the state of play.

MainframeMalfunction · 02/10/2025 14:55

Slimmernow · 02/10/2025 14:45

But everyone is auditioning / profiling each other from the minute they read their online dating profile, thru first texts, to calls etc - everyone’s needs, boundaries and non-negotiables are different and you can call ‘Next’ at any moment if you know something isn’t compatible with your lifestyle, values or expectations.

Sooner rather than later IMHO.

Lots of people will have called “next” when faced with the weirdly intrusive and rude posters who’ve demanded someone’s autobiography to read before deciding whether to meet them for coffee. For lots of people a firm boundary is “no over-invested oddballs who are trying to envisage the logistics of married life together before they’ve even met me”.

I believe men call such women “bunny boilers” (awful expression, as rabbits are adorable). Whereas when men behave like this it is not only a red flag for the reasons above re. demonstrating entitlement, rudeness and social ineptitude, potential obsessiveness etc, but such behaviour is also a common indicator of someone who is likely testing boundaries to identify targets for abuse (especially when it involves a single mother as many of them specifically target such women for access to children). I’ve explained this multiple times on the thread. The behaviour the OP has described includes multiple red flags of a potential abuser. Yet people are egging her on and telling her it’s normal behaviour to exhibit to a total stranger you have never even met. It really isn’t an no decent man with respect for a woman’s boundaries would behave like this, and continue to behave like this after she made it clear that it was making her uncomfortable.

This thread really is 🦇💩, as I said earlier.

MainframeMalfunction · 02/10/2025 14:57

Jtfrtj · 02/10/2025 14:50

Yes. And dare I say a little self centred, looking at things purely from your own point of view. You’re talking about how YOU feel it’s invasive, but why do you feel you shouldn’t be questioned on such things? He’s asking you politely and respectfully.

I wouldn’t want to waste my time on a man who has no time for me or have a difficult ex partner who would make things difficult for me. When you have kids and enter the dating world you have to accept that (in the nicest possible way) children and lurking exes are merely seen as baggage initially to potential matches. That’s not to say blended families can’t work but it’s a battle one would prefer not to have if given the choice

If that is how this man feels then why is he speaking to a woman who gas made it clear that she is a single mother? Why is he not trying to date childless women if that’s his preference?

You’d have to have a very low bar indeed (and be a terrible parent) to date/ form a relationship with someone who considered your children to be “baggage”.

Jellybunny56 · 02/10/2025 14:58

MainframeMalfunction · 02/10/2025 14:55

Lots of people will have called “next” when faced with the weirdly intrusive and rude posters who’ve demanded someone’s autobiography to read before deciding whether to meet them for coffee. For lots of people a firm boundary is “no over-invested oddballs who are trying to envisage the logistics of married life together before they’ve even met me”.

I believe men call such women “bunny boilers” (awful expression, as rabbits are adorable). Whereas when men behave like this it is not only a red flag for the reasons above re. demonstrating entitlement, rudeness and social ineptitude, potential obsessiveness etc, but such behaviour is also a common indicator of someone who is likely testing boundaries to identify targets for abuse (especially when it involves a single mother as many of them specifically target such women for access to children). I’ve explained this multiple times on the thread. The behaviour the OP has described includes multiple red flags of a potential abuser. Yet people are egging her on and telling her it’s normal behaviour to exhibit to a total stranger you have never even met. It really isn’t an no decent man with respect for a woman’s boundaries would behave like this, and continue to behave like this after she made it clear that it was making her uncomfortable.

This thread really is 🦇💩, as I said earlier.

If the thread is so crazy please do feel free to leave it. It does seem you could do with a breath of fresh air and a cup of tea!

Mapletree1985 · 02/10/2025 14:58

If he's looking for a serious relationship, he won't want to invest his time when the woman is in a situation that's a big No for him. So I can understand why he wanted to know those things. If I were thinking of dating a man, I'd want to know the same things, especially since a string of "crazy exes" is a well known red glad.

Puzzledtoday · 02/10/2025 14:59

If he’s interested in a serious relationship these are crucial questions. If he just wants a few dates they are nosey.

Slimmernow · 02/10/2025 15:00

This reply has been deleted

This message has been withdrawn at the poster's request

Wow what an extreme twisting of a situation you are not party to.

Saying “May I ask….” is not an interrogation - it’s extremely polite and sensitive. It’s not even asking for an answer it’s asking if they can ask.

The OP could just say ‘No’ simple.

Grown up communication expressing her boundary when the guy wanted to check where it was.

NoisyMonster678 · 02/10/2025 15:00

I can understand why you hate that question.

Its too intrusive and he has no right to an answer so early on, however it would only be relevent if two people were thinking of settling down together.

So you could tell him his question is too intrusive and let him go or see how things go

MainframeMalfunction · 02/10/2025 15:01

SunnyViper · 02/10/2025 14:41

You are projecting so much into this. They’re re perfectly reasonable questions and ones I would ask. I don’t know how you leap to incapable of romance either 🤷‍♂️

If your idea of romance and establish a rapport with somebody so you can ask them out on a date is to be interrogating them about their relationship with their ex then I am not sure what to say to you!

Slimmernow · 02/10/2025 15:05

Jellybunny56 · 02/10/2025 14:58

If the thread is so crazy please do feel free to leave it. It does seem you could do with a breath of fresh air and a cup of tea!

Seems there is just the one bat shit derailer on the thread.

One persons ‘weird and intrusive’ is another person ‘sensible and open’ - it’s fine to be in either camp and it quits if not compatible in the same camp early doors.

No need for the histrionics.

MainframeMalfunction · 02/10/2025 15:05

Slimmernow · 02/10/2025 15:00

Wow what an extreme twisting of a situation you are not party to.

Saying “May I ask….” is not an interrogation - it’s extremely polite and sensitive. It’s not even asking for an answer it’s asking if they can ask.

The OP could just say ‘No’ simple.

Grown up communication expressing her boundary when the guy wanted to check where it was.

The question itself and entitlement to ask this of a complete stranger is extremely rude, intrusive and inappropriate. Writing “may I ask” beforehand doesn’t negate this, and is a false question in any case because the person has then gone ahead and asked it without permission to do so. Abusive people are often charming and try to couch their behaviour in such superficially mild language to make it pass as socially acceptable to those who have poor boundaries. I hope that the OP does not.

TheRealGoose · 02/10/2025 15:06

MainframeMalfunction · 02/10/2025 15:01

If your idea of romance and establish a rapport with somebody so you can ask them out on a date is to be interrogating them about their relationship with their ex then I am not sure what to say to you!

This is so ott, i am unsure if you don’t know what interrogate means or you’re prone to hyperbole, to such an extent you lose credibility but an interrogation is not two questions.

if it helps, an interrogation is asking someone a lot of questions for a long period of time, it is not two brief questions asked, where she can decline to answer.

MainframeMalfunction · 02/10/2025 15:06

Puzzledtoday · 02/10/2025 14:59

If he’s interested in a serious relationship these are crucial questions. If he just wants a few dates they are nosey.

He has never met her. If he’s fantasising about a serious relationship with her before they’ve even met in person then there’s something seriously wrong.

canchewcashew · 02/10/2025 15:07

I might not ask right away if it felt awkward, but I can guarantee you I'd want to know as soon as possible if someone I was considering dating had children, where they live, what the relationship with the ex was like, etc. If it's a bad situation or one where I wouldn't feel comfortable, I'd rather know immediately and not waste anyone's time.

MainframeMalfunction · 02/10/2025 15:08

TheRealGoose · 02/10/2025 15:06

This is so ott, i am unsure if you don’t know what interrogate means or you’re prone to hyperbole, to such an extent you lose credibility but an interrogation is not two questions.

if it helps, an interrogation is asking someone a lot of questions for a long period of time, it is not two brief questions asked, where she can decline to answer.

She did. And he kept asking her anyway even after she made clear that she wasn’t comfortable with it.

These people are total strangers who have never even met each other.

It’s bizarre that so many posters are determined to try to defend this man’s inappropriate behaviour.

Ragamuffin8 · 02/10/2025 15:08

MainframeMalfunction · 02/10/2025 13:37

Imagine how well that’d go if you met someone in person rather than through an app initially and tried to strike up a conversation and ask them on a date.

People seem to think that if you communicate via the internet you can cross all social boundaries of manners and polite behaviour and somehow it will be acceptable. It isn’t. And if people behave in this manner then they can’t be surprised that others conclude they are at best very rude and socially incapable, and at worst are people who are abusive and trying to test acceptable boundaries of behaviour deliberately before even meeting somebody and therefore should be avoided like the plague.

But if you meet in person, for example at work, you would get to know their relationship status, if someone has kids, if they live with them full time and a sense of what their ex is like (at least if they’re a nightmare). You’d get to know all of that before asking them out.

Not sure why asking such questions of a potential date would mean they’re a sociopath or abusive. If people don’t want to say, I’d assume they were hiding something (still married etc). And if they took offence, then we’re clearly not suited. That’s ok too.

I genuinely don’t understand wasting a date or several before finding out if either of you have a dealbreaker. It doesn’t help anyone. It’s fine if you’re just looking for a flirtation/casual, but not if you’re looking for something serious.

Tubestrike · 02/10/2025 15:10

yeahokayyythen · 02/10/2025 11:37

I just find it a bit intrusive. If I was speaking to a guy that had kids, yeah I'd want to know how his relationship was like with his ex but I don't think I'd actually ask until we'd spoken a lot more or even if we'd at least met up once.

The way he said he felt like he had to ask and then how he didn't want to assume made me feel like he was assuming in the first place that maybe I didn't have my child living with me or something.

I think you're looking into this too deeply. He's asked reasonable questions at the start to ensure he's not wasting his time. Take it as a compliment that he likes you and wants things to progress but is just making sure he's not getting into anything messy.

yeahokayyythen · 02/10/2025 15:10

canchewcashew · 02/10/2025 15:07

I might not ask right away if it felt awkward, but I can guarantee you I'd want to know as soon as possible if someone I was considering dating had children, where they live, what the relationship with the ex was like, etc. If it's a bad situation or one where I wouldn't feel comfortable, I'd rather know immediately and not waste anyone's time.

Of course. I'm not hiding that I have a child, and I don't think it's personal to ask if someone has kids. He knew I had one before the topic of asking if they lived with me then about my ex.

OP posts:
Member869894 · 02/10/2025 15:11

Normal questions, surely?