Labour are lifting the 2 child benefit cap

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AIBU that this is a terrible decision?

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38/39% is NOT a majority!

Rtft- UC won't be limited to two kids which means around 300 £ more per month for third child.

The benefit cap has nothing to do with child benefit!. You can claim child benefit for as many children that you have!

Most people need benefits because our housing costs and childcare costs are ridiculous. That's the issue

350,000 children will be immediately lifted out of poverty.

We are nearly there. More state support, more voters to increase it.

YANBU.

Nail on the head. There should be a short period of low hours, but after, say a year, "full time" or (or nearly) should be a requirement to claim UC. Far too many are working part time and "tweaking" their hours to get full UC by doing the minimum amount of work. It needs stopping.

Holy crap! That is astonishing.

The UK birth rate is below replacement rate already (1.6, I believe) so in the interests of long-term economic stability I would have thought it's a good thing if some women have three or more children. They're still going to remain very much the minority, though, because children are going out of fashion and big families especially so and the additional money is unlikely to be sufficient incentive to change this.

This post is too logical for this thread!

Same. I am one of 3. My mum didn't work when we were small. She worked part time when we started school. Got the bog standard £20 or so child benefit that everyone got.

There is no "magic 18 hours" Why don't you try researching how UC actually works?

DH has had a vasectomy (he got a text from the nhs saying congratulations you are sterile 😂)and I have some pretty chronic fertility issues so I think we're pretty safe.

We also stopped at one, I'm a higher rate tax payer and DH has exceeded the threshold this year. We both grew up in very poor environments with parents who had no qualifications etc but who always worked hard often in multiple low paid jobs and never claimed a thing. I absolutely think the cap should stay. People need to make responsible choices.

Personally, I take the view that it is not the role of the state to fund people's choices. And it's unfair on me, as a single person with no children, that I'm expected to fund other people's children, when those same people would not care if something bad happened to me, or if I died.

This is short-sighted. We need future taxpayers to fund the public services and pensions we all rely on.

This is a nonsense. They will suffer for this, I hope they don't go through with it. The cap was one of the few decisions I thought that the Tories got right.

It used to be the magic 16 hours.

I think this is a good insight. For the first case you mentioned is why I’m against this but then I’m also for it because of the example you gave where your children were looked after as a result.

People fall on hard times without reason or rhyme so I’m for it but I have personally witnessed the bred for benefits and it is absolutely horrible.

This a 100% ⬆️

Only on paper.

If you believe all of those parents will spend that extra money on the children you are very naive.

Did she have 3 children or adopt some?

Are you sure there will be the jobs when the dc born today get to 18 and over?

Over £23,250 we we expect people to pay for their own care. Seems reasonable for people with more than that (or property assets) to cover their own pension too.

I've had another idea for those sitting on a valuable property but no real liquid funds. They can do an equity release with the gov, and then when they die their property goes into the council pool of housing, or the state can sell it.

I'm going to need to iron all this out, but all you wealthy pensioners deriding child benefit claimants while creaming off the state better hope I don't get voted in!

They have handed the reins to Farage.