Labour are lifting the 2 child benefit cap

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AIBU that this is a terrible decision?

They have handed the reins to Farage.

Farage supports this!!!!

It’s really not. Logical would be to consider the workplace in 18 years.

I think it's about 60%. I know it's close to 70% of single parents (who are 3/4 of the families with children who are claiming UC)

https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/universal-credit-and-child-tax-credit-claimants-statistics-related-to-the-policy-to-provide-support-for-a-maximum-of-2-children-april-2024/universal-credit-and-child-tax-credit-claimants-statistics-related-to-the-policy-to-provide-support-for-a-maximum-of-two-children-april-2024#:~:text=than%20one%20category.-,Households%20affected%20by%20the%20policy%20to%20provide%20support%20for%20a,least%20one%20child%20(60%25).

People are naive if they think the extra tax payers money will be spent solely on these people who have more than 2 children.

Something that should be considered as well is that some communities and cultures don’t see an issue in having three plus children. For the women it’s their role in the family. Is Labour trying to appeal to those communities And gain votes?

the 2-child benefit cap is not about child benefit. It’s only means tested benefits, ie universal credit. You get child benefit for all the children you have at the moment.

This will just lead to even more ‘children in poverty’. If people cannot afford more than two kids, they should not be having more than two kids.

Gosh does he? I admit I try to avoid anything he says.
Nevertheless, it will still hurt Labour.

What does that mean?

When my family needed help there wasn't any. My husband got made redundant and after rent I had to pay all bills for 4 of us on the £40 left of my full time weekly wage + £20 child benefit. They wouldn't even give us a free school dinner.
Hubby walked the streets knocking on factory doors looking for a job whilst I worked. I collapsed from lack of food walking to work one morning and thank god even now for the lovely young man that found me and couldn't understand why I was still going to work despite being so ill.
You've used the benefit system exactly as it should be used - when you needed it. Not as a lifestyle choice which many do or we wouldn't need UC conditionality.
I find it hard that a government can hand out so much to people nowadays when my family were deemed so worthless.

Another absolute disaster in the making. Just when you think they must have made enough mistakes now to start getting things right, they do something like this! How on earth is it helpful to promote the benefits culture??

Labour seem hellbent on ruining this country irreparably. Next we will be funding welcome parties for the small/big boats.

@EasternStandard you have no idea what the workplace will look like in 18 years plus why on earth do you think this policy will lead to a baby boom?

We need the "right" kind of children who are more likely to become workers and earn enough to pay taxes, not be a "net taker", etc. We certainly don't need more who are more likely to be benefit claimants and non contributors. Quality not quantity!

Yes, and a lot of us have stuck at one child because we are responsible and realistic.

Now not keen on paying for others to have children they (and I) can't afford.

@Holluschickie

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5yx062pvlvo.amp

Farage wants a baby boom

I have mixed feelings about this. But what I genuinely don’t understand is how the govt can keep the triple lock, the WFA, not make any of the changes to benefits they were flip flopping on, and potentially do this as well. It all feels so random and also, profligate.

If it made economic sense to do so, I’d rather this money was spent on Sure Start or something similar, or used to support social workers in some way, or to improve school meals or something - to benefit children in a broader way.

But it's poverty which has the biggest (negative ) impact on children's outcomes and will eventually cost the state more. The easiest, most cost effective way to lift children out of poverty and give them the opportunities to succeed, is to abolish the 2 child limit and provide an adequate level of financial support to those who need it most.

@taxguru not every dc who has a parent on UC will grow up to be a bum

I agree with Eastern. It won’t even take 18’ years before AI becomes instrumental in mass unemployment. She is completely correct.

You do realise that anyone on less than £41k is a "net taker"?
That covers people like nurses and teachers.... and junior doctors.

I disagree to an extent. Imo what society really needs is a broad spectrum of people to do all sorts of roles, both skilled and unskilled. There isn't an unlimited pool of skilled, well-paid jobs. Low-paid and casual workers are just as important to the functioning of society.

But it's poverty which has the biggest (negative ) impact on children's outcomes and will eventually cost the state more.

Exactly, investing in dc is literally investing in the future of the country. Something we haven't done for years.

I say this as someone who has never received benefits and would have loved more than 2 dc but can't afford it.

It’s fairly easy to see re AI. Baby boom? That sounds like prosperity, no I don’t think it’ll lead to that even if some benefits keep increasing.

Anyone saying we need more dc though, I don’t think
so.

And the shit and unresponsible parents will have more money to spent on nails,fake lips and botox, doubt they will even spend it on their kids needs anyway

And you're one of those who can't have a normal conversation without insults

@Nestingbirds but the post I called logical said that this policy wouldn't cause a baby boom. It won't, so how is agreeing with that logic wrong?