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DS hating UK uni and feeling guilty for encouraging him to go

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Dailyster · 29/09/2025 20:00

Hi everyone,

I am feeling really worried tonight and would love some perspective from people who have been through this. DS (18) has just started university in the UK and he is already saying he hates it. We lived in the UK until he was 3, then moved back to Russia. DH is British (from the South) and we always spoke English at home, so DS has grown up bilingual. When it came to applying for uni we really encouraged him to go back to the UK as we thought it would give him more opportunities, improve his career prospects and give him a chance to experience life in the country where he was born.

He was excited during the whole application process, worked hard on his A levels here and on his UCAS application, got a great offer and was thrilled when he got it. We visited in the spring and it all seemed perfect.

But now he is two weeks in and he sounds completely miserable. Every time we speak he just sounds flat and sad. He says his flatmates are friendly enough but he struggles to join in with them. They go out drinking and clubbing most nights and he is not really into that. He has gone out a couple of times but said he just felt awkward and left early.

He also says the accents are very hard to follow. He is in the North and although his English is good, he grew up hearing southern English from DH and his family and the northern accents plus slang are sometimes too fast for him. He feels embarrassed asking people to repeat themselves and just smiles along even when he does not fully understand. He told me that a couple of his flatmates sometimes laugh when he says certain words slightly differently and imitate him in a “jokey” way, which is making him feel self-conscious about speaking at all. He said he knows they do not mean to be cruel but it makes him want to stay in his room even more.

Academically he is finding it a shock too. The course is more theoretical than he expected, with long lectures and reading lists, and he said he struggles to keep up because he is translating things in his head all the time. He has joined a couple of societies but said he feels awkward turning up on his own and that everyone seems to already know each other.

He has already started saying he wants to come home and apply to a uni here next year. I have told him that it is normal to feel out of place at the start and that he should at least give it until Christmas before deciding. But I am starting to wonder if I am just making him suffer because I think it is “good for him” to stick it out. I feel so guilty because I really encouraged this whole idea and told him how amazing it would be. Now I am not sure if I have set him up for a horrible experience.

Has anyone had a DC who hated it at first but then found their feet later on? Or has anyone let their DC leave and come home? I want him to be happy but I also do not want him to miss out on what could be a great experience if he can just get through this first difficult term. Any advice or similar experiences would be very welcome.

OP posts:
XelaM · 30/09/2025 12:33

Katiesaidthat · 30/09/2025 12:31

Indeed. But of all the Russians I have met, I still have to hear just ONE criticise the big leader. And believe you me, I am eagerly waiting, just for the novelty.

Me 🙋‍♀️

I suggest you keep questionable company 😂

samthepigeon · 30/09/2025 12:48

XelaM · 30/09/2025 12:01

Unusual for Russians to choose unis in the North rather than London ime

I wonder why that would be?

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 30/09/2025 12:50

Katiesaidthat · 30/09/2025 12:23

???? they hold presidential elections every 6 years, which Putin has won by landslide. The Russians I know adore Putin. They love that he is a "strong leader" (their words).
But back to the Op´s son, perhaps he is in the wrong setting? He needs an option that is more international where he doesnt feel like the odd one. Also the University system is very...original. It will take him some time to get his head round it.

I think the level to which this is actually true, and the level to which russians can be seen as victims, depends on the area of the country they are in.

russians living in moscow or st petersburg are not going to be the same as minority ethnic russians living in remote areas - I would be much more inclined to view the latter as victims than the former.

Obviously the elections aren’t remotely free or fair - they probably just put all the ballots in the bin and pick out a percentage win that they think sounds plausible. And there will be many afraid to speak out of course.

That said, you hear a lot of people openly saying they support putin and think he’s great - including russians living abroad so clearly not just in fear.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 30/09/2025 12:52

XelaM · 30/09/2025 12:33

Me 🙋‍♀️

I suggest you keep questionable company 😂

I would never say “all russians” or all anyone else.

But there are clearly those who genuinely support putin and those who genuinely oppose him, and I’m sure those who are too scared to speak and those who don’t really care about anything (as in other countries).

The OP doesn’t exactly sound like a hapless victim with no choice but to remain in russia though.

HollaHolla · 30/09/2025 12:58

Not a child, but me. I was miserable for about the first 6 weeks of Uni, wanted to drop out, etc. I had just turned 17 (Scotland), so was pretty young, and I found I wasn't particularly motivated by some of my lectures. My Mum kept saying to me to stick it out until Xmas, and we could talk about it. I did, and then actually wanted to go back after the break. Part of it was that I wasn't old enough to go out to a lot of places (I tried, but there was a lot of ID checking!)
I found a nicer group of friends through a sports society, and found having an activity to do was a good bonding experience. I'd advise him to stick at it, and see how he feels come Xmas. There should be support for non-native speakers (there have been at all the institutions I've worked at), which might be things such as getting lecture slides in advance, which would help him with having to translate on the spot all the time, for example.
I survived, and actually thrived; and ended up going overseas alone for my masters, when I was 21.

anothermondayyy · 30/09/2025 13:03

He needs to find the in international society and meet people there. He also needs to speak with academic support about English being his second language.

Oblomov25 · 30/09/2025 13:38

Good God. What on earth is going on re this thread. I've just revisited after posting thus morning and am disgusted as some posters de-railing it. 😡😡😡

Hiptothisjive · 30/09/2025 14:34

XelaM · 30/09/2025 11:31

Nobody at university is at risk of conscription - you can defer army year until after you finish university. Education in the UK has always been considered very prestigious and there is absolutely nothing strange about this boy going to uni in the UK. The only unusual part I would say is choosing a uni in the North.

You're right but I think the point is sending a Russian child to uni in the UK when they haven't lived in the country since they were 3 could be seen to be avoiding conscription. Going to uni in the north isn't unusual - absolutely fantastic uni's there.

XelaM · 30/09/2025 14:52

Hiptothisjive · 30/09/2025 14:34

You're right but I think the point is sending a Russian child to uni in the UK when they haven't lived in the country since they were 3 could be seen to be avoiding conscription. Going to uni in the north isn't unusual - absolutely fantastic uni's there.

It's very normal (or at least it used to be before the war) for children of (usually wealthy) Russians to be educated in the UK or US. Nothing strange about going abroad for uni to a country where you haven't lived before/ for many years. Nothing to do with conscription. All my Russian-born cousins bar one went to uni abroad (in US, UK and France).

InTheMountainsThere · 30/09/2025 15:46

Hiptothisjive · 30/09/2025 14:34

You're right but I think the point is sending a Russian child to uni in the UK when they haven't lived in the country since they were 3 could be seen to be avoiding conscription. Going to uni in the north isn't unusual - absolutely fantastic uni's there.

Why does it matter to anyone British whether a Russian teenager is avoiding conscription? Given the UK is broadly supporting Ukraine, why would you want to send another teenaged boy back to fight for Russia?

Hiptothisjive · 30/09/2025 16:33

InTheMountainsThere · 30/09/2025 15:46

Why does it matter to anyone British whether a Russian teenager is avoiding conscription? Given the UK is broadly supporting Ukraine, why would you want to send another teenaged boy back to fight for Russia?

I don't want to send anyone anywhere and didn't say that.

Dery · 30/09/2025 16:55

@Oblomov25 - completely agree with you re the derail.

It’s great that @Dailyster wanted her son to study in the UK. There are certainly still lots of Russian youngsters in London and that’s a good thing. @Dailyster - you will hopefully have seen that there lots of positive advice and practical tips upthread. Most of us think you should encourage your son to give it at least until Xmas before making a decision and hopefully he will be feeling a lot better by then.

WearyAuldWumman · 30/09/2025 17:01

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 30/09/2025 12:50

I think the level to which this is actually true, and the level to which russians can be seen as victims, depends on the area of the country they are in.

russians living in moscow or st petersburg are not going to be the same as minority ethnic russians living in remote areas - I would be much more inclined to view the latter as victims than the former.

Obviously the elections aren’t remotely free or fair - they probably just put all the ballots in the bin and pick out a percentage win that they think sounds plausible. And there will be many afraid to speak out of course.

That said, you hear a lot of people openly saying they support putin and think he’s great - including russians living abroad so clearly not just in fear.

As a student I lived in both those cities during Cold War times. I can assure you that their citizens were not free to say or do as they pleased.

When I was in Moscow, the old lady who cleaned our hall of residence saw the advent calendar in the room that I shared with two other girls. She waited until no one was around and asked if she could have it after I'd finished with it, since "we're not allowed to have those".

Putin makes a big thing of being Russian Orthodox these days because it's expedient. So far as I can see, the lack of freedom of speech is much the same as in Soviet times.

WearyAuldWumman · 30/09/2025 17:05

Katiesaidthat · 30/09/2025 12:31

Indeed. But of all the Russians I have met, I still have to hear just ONE criticise the big leader. And believe you me, I am eagerly waiting, just for the novelty.

I'm half Yugoslav. When Tito was still alive I bit my tongue when I heard people in the UK praising him. Nothing would have happened to me for criticising him, but I wasn't going to risk causing trouble for the relatives in Yugoslavia.

Tito wasn't the benign dictator that many supposed (the clue being in the word 'dictator').

loberoniswhatisaw · 30/09/2025 20:57

InTheMountainsThere · 30/09/2025 12:12

That's your definition of bilingualism, but there is no single universally agreed definition. Usually bilingual just means able to use two languages fluently in every day life. Another definition would be "mastery" of two languages (but if we're honest plenty of monolinguals don't have true "mastery" of even their one language, so how should "mastery" be defined?).

There's no rule about how you think or both languages being at exactly identical levels. My children could never remember which language things had been said in when they were little, but that's about growing up with two languages, not a definition of being bilingual (as adults and near adults they wouldn't forget which language was being spoken because it is strongly related to context, and "the wrong" language would be memorable out of context).

If you have studied a subject in one language it will take a bit of time to be fully up to speed in all the technical or specific language if you then transfer to study the same subject but in a second language - you'll have the concepts but the terminogy will be different, and trasferring from reading all the time in one language to intensive reading in the second language will need a bit of effort too at first, however bilingual and fluent you are generally.

So just in relation to that bit it is worth persevering until up to speed as it will come fairly quickly.

I also remember a fair bit of mocking to do with north vs south vs regional UK pronunciations at university, nowt to do with fluency!

TheBoolahBus · 05/05/2026 08:10

How is your son now OP

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