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Growing trend for halal meat

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SouthernFashionista · 29/09/2025 14:54

I’m seeing this and it concerns me. I have noticed that Five Guys is now advertising that all its meat is halal and the restaurant in my workplace serves only halal meat. Who is pushing for this and why do the rest of us have no say? For what it’s worth, I am a Black woman, a practising Catholic with many Muslim friends and acquaintances. I don’t believe they are out there demanding halal meat everywhere they go.

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HopelesslyOptimistic · 01/10/2025 20:08

Uggbootsforever · 01/10/2025 20:08

HopelesslyOptimistic · 01/10/2025 20:07

Check out Catherine Blaiklock's work on X. It is against the law to serve stealth Halal to non Muslims. A Welsh minister openly stated all schools in Swansea were Halal only. Catherine and her team are going to put in legal challenges. This country fails to follow the law. They hide behind abattoir codes on produce.

Against the law?! Bloody hell.

Uggbootsforever · 01/10/2025 20:09

5MinuteArgument · 01/10/2025 18:21

Yes, except that halal meat is increasingly being rolled out in the public sector. The meat served in school dinners at the secondary school near me is all halal, even though only a third of the children are Muslim.

It is assumed that non-Muslims don't mind or don't care. Usually it's that they don't know. I would feel the same if it was kosher meat.

Also, the idea that halal slaughter complies with UK animal welfare requirements is clearly not the case. See picture of a sign in a shop in my town.

Well that puts paid to the ‘it’s all stunned’ protesters on here.

FoodieBoobie · 01/10/2025 20:19

5MinuteArgument · 01/10/2025 20:04

There only needs to be one type of meat in the UK.

If I went to live in a Muslum country, I wouldn't expect to be served non-halal meat in their hospitals and schools. That would be foolish and weak.

You can get pork in Dubai and Qatar

NorthXNorthWest · 01/10/2025 20:23

5MinuteArgument · 01/10/2025 18:41

Since the NHS is falling over itself to pander to various minorities, I wouldn't be surprised if all the meat served in hospital kitchens is halal. Probably in prisons too. The public sector has created a huge market for it and most people just aren't aware of it.

The mortality rates for black mothers is a testament to the NHS 'pandering' to various minorities?

Everyday equipment not calibrated for Black or Brown skin skin? Definitely evident of pandering to minorities..

It has only recently (in the last couple of years) updated its guidelines on kidney function - racist adjusting for Black ethnicity put Black People at a greater risk of harm and death..

Sit down and shut up until you know what you are talking about.

Halal meat is the least of its problems.

5MinuteArgument · 01/10/2025 20:29

FoodieBoobie · 01/10/2025 20:19

You can get pork in Dubai and Qatar

Non-halal meat would not be served as standard in schools and hospitals in places like Dubai and Qatar.

Uggbootsforever · 01/10/2025 20:49

I find it a stark contrast that the poster who is worried by binning Holy Communion she has broken religious code is being mocked and taunted, yet the need for Halal (which according to the same principles is equally as pointless) is treated with respect on here?

wordler · 01/10/2025 21:19

Uggbootsforever · 01/10/2025 20:09

Well that puts paid to the ‘it’s all stunned’ protesters on here.

No one said that it was all stunned - just that the majority is. The pic with the poster shows that non-stunned can still be bought if someone is specifically seeking it.

Five Guys - the subject of the OP has confirmed that they are sourcing their meat from places where the animals are stunned.

Anyone concerned should check with their supermarkets and any restaurants offering halal meat to check where their meat comes from.

Kendodd · 01/10/2025 23:14

Grammarnut · 01/10/2025 18:26

I think the kernal of the point made is that more Muslims are in the UK and they are not integrating terribly well esp. with the problem of first cousin marriages generation after generation, which causes a higher rate of birth defects in some Muslim populations in the UK. The NHS has said first cousin marriages are a good thing since they consolidate property and mean that people are well-supported by family!!

I'm sorry, the NHS has said first cousin marriage is a good thing? Where exactly have they said that?

KitWyn · 01/10/2025 23:38

wordler · 01/10/2025 21:19

No one said that it was all stunned - just that the majority is. The pic with the poster shows that non-stunned can still be bought if someone is specifically seeking it.

Five Guys - the subject of the OP has confirmed that they are sourcing their meat from places where the animals are stunned.

Anyone concerned should check with their supermarkets and any restaurants offering halal meat to check where their meat comes from.

There are two issues here:

(1) The religious exemption from a UK legal requirement to stun that means all Kosher and about 12% of farm animals killed for Halal in the UK are not stunned before slaughter. So are awake and fully conscious when their throat is cut and they bleed out

(2) The lack of a labelling requirement for halal/kosher meat/meat products in supermarkets, cafes, restaurants etc. So currently consumers are not always informed if they are buying or eating meat /meat products that are Halal (stunned), Halal (non stunned) or Kosher (always non stunned). They have to ask

The RSPCA and the British Veterinary Association (BVA) both strongly advocate for mandatory stunning for the slaughter of ALL farm animals and clear labelling for Halal and Kosher meats and meat products.

Both the RSPCA and BVA have useful information on their websites explaining why they have taken such a firm stance on the need to stun first. I agree with them!

BluntPlumHam · 02/10/2025 09:26

I can’t see why people have their knickers in a twist. Your businesses are failing. Your economy is in dire straights and your high streets are crumbling. This is clearly a business decision whether you like it or not capitalism is why they’re making it halal.

Prior to this announcement, OP did you ever query or give a shit about where you meat came from or how it was slaughtered? I highly doubt it.

Muslims and Jews will check and if it’s not halal they will either take their custom elsewhere or go for pescatarian/ veg option.

The halal industry in the U.K. is worth over 1.5 billion and is projected to grow to 2 in the coming years so if businesses want a piece of that I don’t blame them.

We were at a restaurant with a group of colleagues, the Muslims present all ordered veg or fish option until the waiter told them that the steaks were all halal. They all changed their orders to expensive cuts of steak immediately…. It’s a bloody no brainer.

As for anyone suggesting it’s pandering to minorities or that Muslims/islam is taking over is just typical bigot noise.

FoodieBoobie · 02/10/2025 09:34

One of my work colleagues is a very nice Muslim man and even wishes me for Diwali.

BluntPlumHam · 02/10/2025 09:36

Uggbootsforever · 29/09/2025 15:59

Between 2001 and 2009, the Muslim population increased almost 10 times faster than the non-Muslim population. Islam is now the second most widely practiced religion in the UK. In 2017, Pew Research Centre projected the population of Muslims in the United Kingdom to grow to 6.56 million (12.7% of the population) by 2050 under a zero migration scenario, or to 13.48 million (17.2%) under a high migration scenario.

The above is not a value judgement, just facts. If the population continues to increase at this rate, why would halal meat not eventually end up the norm?

The halal industry is worth billions that’s why it’s becoming an option that is the only reason. Most Muslims aren’t demanding it, they will just take their custom elsewhere. Businesses don’t want them to hence why they’re rolling out this option.

You clearly don’t understand economics and have jumped on this thread to bash Muslims.

5MinuteArgument · 02/10/2025 10:27

Animal welfare, as defined by the RSPCA and BVA, should take priority. Also people should be told whether the food they are served is halal or kosher or not so they can make an informed choice, especially in the public sector.

It's not an unreasonable ask that the law should be applied.

Daysofdreams · 02/10/2025 10:36

Grammarnut · 01/10/2025 18:26

I think the kernal of the point made is that more Muslims are in the UK and they are not integrating terribly well esp. with the problem of first cousin marriages generation after generation, which causes a higher rate of birth defects in some Muslim populations in the UK. The NHS has said first cousin marriages are a good thing since they consolidate property and mean that people are well-supported by family!!

I work in the NHS. It is only the higher workings of management that say that the Muslim incest is a good thing. Most recognise that is a massive drain on resources, with the too frequent birth defects.

nomas · 02/10/2025 10:37

Daysofdreams · 02/10/2025 10:36

I work in the NHS. It is only the higher workings of management that say that the Muslim incest is a good thing. Most recognise that is a massive drain on resources, with the too frequent birth defects.

ODFOD, I don’t agree with cousin marriage but it’s not incest.

nomas · 02/10/2025 10:39

5MinuteArgument · 02/10/2025 10:27

Animal welfare, as defined by the RSPCA and BVA, should take priority. Also people should be told whether the food they are served is halal or kosher or not so they can make an informed choice, especially in the public sector.

It's not an unreasonable ask that the law should be applied.

If you go on the website it will tell you what kind of meat is used.

You can’t always be spoon fed, take a minute and look online.

FoodieBoobie · 02/10/2025 10:49

Daysofdreams · 02/10/2025 10:36

I work in the NHS. It is only the higher workings of management that say that the Muslim incest is a good thing. Most recognise that is a massive drain on resources, with the too frequent birth defects.

Only if there's multiple generations and generations of cousin marriage. A one off cousin marriage has negible effect

FoodieBoobie · 02/10/2025 10:52

5MinuteArgument · 02/10/2025 10:27

Animal welfare, as defined by the RSPCA and BVA, should take priority. Also people should be told whether the food they are served is halal or kosher or not so they can make an informed choice, especially in the public sector.

It's not an unreasonable ask that the law should be applied.

Isn't the best animal welfare not to kill the animal?

BluntPlumHam · 02/10/2025 11:03

5MinuteArgument · 02/10/2025 10:27

Animal welfare, as defined by the RSPCA and BVA, should take priority. Also people should be told whether the food they are served is halal or kosher or not so they can make an informed choice, especially in the public sector.

It's not an unreasonable ask that the law should be applied.

Make your own enquiries. Just like kosher, halal and vegans do before eating out. Call ahead or check if the meat is halal and then make a decision. As I said most people wouldn’t because they don’t care unless they have a dietary requirement.

Restaurants have caught on that they can make profit by changing a halal meat supplier that’s really all to it.

If people really feel that strongly about it then do the opposite, if you know a place serves halal and it bothers you so much take your custom elsewhere.

Tiredofwhataboutery · 02/10/2025 11:03

FoodieBoobie · 02/10/2025 10:52

Isn't the best animal welfare not to kill the animal?

If the animal wasn’t being reared as food it wouldn’t exist

PraisebetoGod · 02/10/2025 11:07

If business' are offering it then it is simply due to demand. Given it's mostly Muslim people who eat halal I would hazard a guess there's a growing Muslim population.

Bumblebee72 · 02/10/2025 11:13

Tiredofwhataboutery · 02/10/2025 11:03

If the animal wasn’t being reared as food it wouldn’t exist

It's quite a philosophical question isn't to say it is better to not exist or to exist and have your throat slashed at 6 months old. If a person had a child with that intent we would probably say it was better if they didn't in the first place.

FoodieBoobie · 02/10/2025 11:19

Tiredofwhataboutery · 02/10/2025 11:03

If the animal wasn’t being reared as food it wouldn’t exist

And? I doubt the chicken still wants to die regardless? And from the slaughterhouse stuff I see it isn't always a happy end for them

nomas · 02/10/2025 11:32

PraisebetoGod · 02/10/2025 11:07

If business' are offering it then it is simply due to demand. Given it's mostly Muslim people who eat halal I would hazard a guess there's a growing Muslim population.

Probably, but I see the halal butchers in Tesco and Asda get a lot of trade from non-Muslims too, even though it's more expensive than the non-halal meat.

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