Growing trend for halal meat

[SouthernFashionista]

I’m seeing this and it concerns me. I have noticed that Five Guys is now advertising that all its meat is halal and the restaurant in my workplace serves only halal meat. Who is pushing for this and why do the rest of us have no say? For what it’s worth, I am a Black woman, a practising Catholic with many Muslim friends and acquaintances. I don’t believe they are out there demanding halal meat everywhere they go.

@Notonthestairsbecause it causes unnecessary distress and pain to the animal.

But if you don't believe in the religion, the prayers mean nothing. I could lurk beside the cheese counter in Tesco's blessing the cheese by reciting the Jedi code. It won't affect you unless you are a Jedi yourself.

Whenever this comes up I always wonder why isn't Kosher meat included. There isn't much difference in the killing of the animal but of course, a different prayer.

I was raised Kosher and eat Kosher, and I do not agree with chain restaurants serving only Halal.

Yes, I have eaten meat from animals that have been killed by stunning. But I won't eat Halal.

There is a difference even though I know vegetarians/vegans will probably not agree with me.

And make Jews who observe kosher feel even more unwelcome in this country than a lot already do?

What is it? Has it banned women from parks, told them to cover up or beaten them to death? Banned them from leaving the house without a male relative? Left women to die under earthquake rubble because the male rescuers must not touch them? Driven girls back into a burning school because they ran out under-dressed? Approved the marriage of nine-year old girls? Slaughtered hundreds of thousands in Nigeria? Burned Yazidis to death for refusing to convert or become sex slaves? Flown planes into office buildings? I must have missed it….

I would imagine everything in that image is mistranslated and deliberately distorted. I've just looked up 9:5 out of curiousity and it is indeed in specific reference to those who have violated treaties.

No reason to think the other verses quoted haven't been similarly misrepresented. This is a common tactic.

I really dislike that a minority is having such influence over our meat and that the rest of us don’t have a choice or say. Nandos is the same. These are huge global companies too so it’s not like the influence is minor! I’m also seeing school dinners introducing this as well now. It’s like an undercurrent of cultural shift occurring and we’re all blindly accepting it.

I really don’t like this and feel it just erodes our Christian values in the UK. I’m not Christian btw but I prefer to live and abide by Christian values. This is the identity I want the UK to continue to have. Yes I know it’s a multicultural society which is great but Christianity should remain our foundation just like other countries have their cultural and religious foundations.

Uggboots, I've often seen this story spread by Islamophobes.

No doubt you are honestly mistaken and not at all anti-Muslim.

When you object to unstunned animals bring slaughtered, fully conscious, by having their throats cut, you are actually describing Jewish ritual slaughter.

Halal meat can be, and usually is, produced in ordinary British slaughterhouses, where the animals are stunned. The difference is that a prayer is said over them. In my opinion that does not affect the suffering of the animals one way or another. Do you disagree?

If I buy a meat pie, I have no interest in the religion of anyone in the slaughterhouse. Do you?

Are you happy to criticise Jewish religious practices? Or only Islamic practices that you have been misinformed about?

Show me the Bible verses where it specifically says that meat prayed over under Islam cannot be eaten by Christians...

Genuine question as a Kosher eater - why not Halal - is it the prayer element?

But that wasn’t the claim - which was There is therefore no protection under the Equality Act for a Christian who does not want to eat halal meat, because their religion does not require them to avoid it. which of course it does because it has been subject to Islamic ritual.

88% of halal meat is stunned.

Kosher is not.

@Poppingmad123

You speak of Christian values. I have some knowledge of Christianity.

Is there something in the New Testament that mentions the stunning of slaughtered animals?

I must have missed it.

What does it say?

It doesn't. But prawns are banned.

You could Google that. The OP has said she is Catholic.

It’s like where I am, even in areas of low numbers of Muslims, they are halal. Why? Even chains like KFC, Nando’s are Halal. If people want halal, they could easily go to the Muslim areas and order fried chicken or peri peri chicken from halal places. Either individual places or mini chains (like 3-10) not inflict international chains with the halal meat.

Friend’s DD works at Greggs about half a mile from a large Muslim community. The number of them asking if the pork sausage rolls are halal. There is no such thing as halal pork! Pig products are Haram, which is the opposite of halal!

I don’t eat any meat and never have, so I’m perfectly at liberty to criticise.

You do know Islam only came into existence hundreds of years after Christianity and the writing of the Bible?

Child marriage is legal in several US states...

And another woman has died in Texas whilst miscarrying because doctors refused to give her the treatment that would have saved her - under their anti abortion laws.

Fundamentalist Christianity is really not all that different from Islam, and the version of Islam you describe is not ubiquitous. Just as not all Christians subscribe to the same beliefs, nor do all Muslims.

Fundamentalist Christianity supports female submission to the man as the head of the household. Christians use the Bible as a justification to be allowed to beat their children.

The problem is twofold: men and religion.

All this crap about Islam is just scapegoating. All organised religion is a force for evil.

Economies of scale. It makes supply chains easier and the company more profitable this way.

So nothing like Islam then?

Is it only halal meat you have a problem with or kosher too?....

The problem is men.

Some more than others.

@Notonthestairs I would like the buy from food that follows secular practices, not religious ones, seeing as I live in a secular state, not a Muslim or Jewish one