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Sick of the lie 'It's just illegal immigrants people don't like.'

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Slightyamusedandsilly · 26/09/2025 22:08

This is just not true.

Reform, the flag flyers and protesters are racists. All of this 'It's just the illegals we want gone.' is a lie to excuse their racism.

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Lighttheway · 26/10/2025 09:42

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JamieCannister · 26/10/2025 09:45

Londonisthebestcityintheworld · 26/10/2025 09:40

There are lots of white Christian men who have very different ideas about women's and LGB rights?

I've never met a single Muslim person in England who is like that. In fact, the scripture is that one should adapt to the country you are in. Examples of successful integration are everywhere in England but they are irrelevant for your narrative.

Usual trope - problematic white people have been failed or have mental health issues... problematic people of colour are intrinsically problematic.

A bit of white supremacy for a Sunday morning. Lovely

I have met and worked with many muslims in my life but don't tend to talk politics / religion with them. 100% of the ones I have asked (a group of ten of them on my degree course back in the 90s) supported criminalizing homosexuality and 90% of those would report any gay man they were aware of to the police, no matter how discreet they were.

To be fair I have also been friends with very tolerant people from muslim countries (mainly Iran / Iraq, though they would say they were from Kurdistan) who I am confident are not massive homophobes but I have never asked.

IamtheDevilsAvocado · 26/10/2025 09:46

scorpiogirly · 26/09/2025 22:45

Nothing racist about it. I am sick to death of people coming into this country, taking out when they have put nothing in and attacking our women and children. That is all. I don't care what colour they are.

Aren't you concerned with our home grown pedophiles /sex attackers /abusers...

They outnumber them...

BMW6 · 26/10/2025 09:46

You're OBSESSED with Hitler........

IamtheDevilsAvocado · 26/10/2025 09:47

PS the many sex abusers /paedophiles I worked with over the years - tje vast majority were white

Dogsandhens · 26/10/2025 09:47

Shakeoffyourchains · 26/10/2025 09:23

It's entirely the fault of the people. Governments don't elect themselves and the people have chosen to elect general elect governments that put profit and growth for the few above all else and it appears they're hell bent on continuing to do so.

No the people have consistently voted for a reduction in immigration and instead governments have ignored the vote. Hence the situation we are now in.

If you blame the people then there's nothing to be done about it now. As Keir Starmer said, as soon as Labour got in we all became far right extremists anyway. Another of their amazing achievements.

BMW6 · 26/10/2025 09:49

IamtheDevilsAvocado · 26/10/2025 09:47

PS the many sex abusers /paedophiles I worked with over the years - tje vast majority were white

Well talk about stating the bleeding OBVIOUS!

This is a predominantly White Country ........😂🙄

Dogsandhens · 26/10/2025 09:50

IamtheDevilsAvocado · 26/10/2025 09:47

PS the many sex abusers /paedophiles I worked with over the years - tje vast majority were white

If you work in the UK we are currently a white majority country so that's logical. Paedophile per head in each of our "communities "(hate that word) would be more useful.

BMW6 · 26/10/2025 09:52

IamtheDevilsAvocado · 26/10/2025 09:47

PS the many sex abusers /paedophiles I worked with over the years - tje vast majority were white

Let's look at the prison statistics for, say, India.

If the stats showed 90% of the imprisoned sex offenders were brown does that mean 90% of all Indians in the UK are rapists and paedophiles?

Dogsandhens · 26/10/2025 09:52

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I dont know where you get those ideas from or what your evidence is but tbf Tommy Robinson's police bribery attempts (if he made any) don't appear to be very successful as he spends a fair bit of time in prison.

Lighttheway · 26/10/2025 09:54

Dogsandhens · 26/10/2025 09:52

I dont know where you get those ideas from or what your evidence is but tbf Tommy Robinson's police bribery attempts (if he made any) don't appear to be very successful as he spends a fair bit of time in prison.

There's always next time

Shakeoffyourchains · 26/10/2025 09:54

JamieCannister · 26/10/2025 09:13

Yawn.

Lots of people are behaving and speaking as though they think it is inherently racist to have concerns about immigration. Which makes me conclude that either they think it is inherently racist to have concerns about immigration, or are very poor thinkers or expressers of their beliefs, or both.

When you say "express their concerns in obviously racist ways" you mean "express their concerns" and people are sick of it.

Look at the polls. Look at what people believe and work out a way of moving forward with the minimum of racism and violence. I promise you the answer is not telling people they are racists.

I have marched against racism and never so much as voted Tory let alone far right... and people like you are starting to make me think that being caled a racist is a badge of honour if the only other option is being in favour of open borders and continued islamification / overcrowding / division / hate..

The hate is coming from the people who are currently telling 1st/2nd/3rd generation Brits that they don't belong here because they're not white, not those asking for compassion for migrants.

But it’s revealing that you mention “Islamification” and “overcrowding” there, both ideas that have been exaggerated to stir fear rather than reflect what’s really happening.

Ps no one is arguing for open borders.

CrocusVase · 26/10/2025 09:54

BMW6 · 26/10/2025 09:40

You're VERY hung up on Hitler 😂

Yes, I’m confused how an Austrian-born German dictator whose ideology the UK and many other countries went to war against over 80 years ago is being brought up as being a problem with the UK…

Dogsandhens · 26/10/2025 09:55

Londonisthebestcityintheworld · 26/10/2025 09:40

There are lots of white Christian men who have very different ideas about women's and LGB rights?

I've never met a single Muslim person in England who is like that. In fact, the scripture is that one should adapt to the country you are in. Examples of successful integration are everywhere in England but they are irrelevant for your narrative.

Usual trope - problematic white people have been failed or have mental health issues... problematic people of colour are intrinsically problematic.

A bit of white supremacy for a Sunday morning. Lovely

Do you think the victims of the Rotherham rape gangs are lying then?

Lighttheway · 26/10/2025 09:55

Dogsandhens · 26/10/2025 09:50

If you work in the UK we are currently a white majority country so that's logical. Paedophile per head in each of our "communities "(hate that word) would be more useful.

So people need to stop lying and saying the majority are immigrants when that's factually I correct. White people are the majority of rapists and pedophiles, that's the reality.

Frannieisnthappy · 26/10/2025 09:56

@Londonisthebestcityintheworld

can you explain what a white British ‘scrounger’ is?

Also where is the 80% statistic from?

Lighttheway · 26/10/2025 09:57

CrocusVase · 26/10/2025 09:54

Yes, I’m confused how an Austrian-born German dictator whose ideology the UK and many other countries went to war against over 80 years ago is being brought up as being a problem with the UK…

Where do you think the racists got their tactics from? It's like saying Mohammed Ali wasn't the greatest boxer of all time to boxing fanatics. Hitler is the master of the racists, he is the moat famous Racist of all time (as well as being the antichrist)- facts.

JamieCannister · 26/10/2025 09:59

Shakeoffyourchains · 26/10/2025 09:54

The hate is coming from the people who are currently telling 1st/2nd/3rd generation Brits that they don't belong here because they're not white, not those asking for compassion for migrants.

But it’s revealing that you mention “Islamification” and “overcrowding” there, both ideas that have been exaggerated to stir fear rather than reflect what’s really happening.

Ps no one is arguing for open borders.

Who is telling 1st/2nd/3rd generation Brits that they don't belong here because they're not white?

Can you please post some credible evidence of who is saying this? I am sure some people do, but it is categorically not TR or the vast majority on that march last month.

Lighttheway · 26/10/2025 10:00

BMW6 · 26/10/2025 09:49

Well talk about stating the bleeding OBVIOUS!

This is a predominantly White Country ........😂🙄

Irrelevant- there is a serious issue of an overwhelmingly majority number of white pedophiles and rapists in this country attacking the women and children. This needs to be addressed immediately and all criminals kicked out of the country as they are the main problem, backed by statistics

BMW6 · 26/10/2025 10:01

Lighttheway · 26/10/2025 09:57

Where do you think the racists got their tactics from? It's like saying Mohammed Ali wasn't the greatest boxer of all time to boxing fanatics. Hitler is the master of the racists, he is the moat famous Racist of all time (as well as being the antichrist)- facts.

The existence of an "Antichrist" is not a fact.

HTH

Londonisthebestcityintheworld · 26/10/2025 10:01

JamieCannister · 26/10/2025 09:45

I have met and worked with many muslims in my life but don't tend to talk politics / religion with them. 100% of the ones I have asked (a group of ten of them on my degree course back in the 90s) supported criminalizing homosexuality and 90% of those would report any gay man they were aware of to the police, no matter how discreet they were.

To be fair I have also been friends with very tolerant people from muslim countries (mainly Iran / Iraq, though they would say they were from Kurdistan) who I am confident are not massive homophobes but I have never asked.

Every true Christian I have spoken to is the same? Who created conversion therapy...? Remember that small paedophilic scandal the Catholic church had...? Who funds the pro-life movement?

And yet reform is all about maintaining our "Christian" values...

The "worst" parts of Islamic scripture are mirrored in the "worst" parts of Christian text. And remember Christianity came first so maybe the Muslims just copied them...

The moral superiority of Christians against Muslims is laughable. It was from the divine words of Christian scripture that the most oppressive laws in Western countries were drafted... indeed the Christian values are now denying women and LGB groups rights all across America.

Which just brings me back to my original point - why don't we discuss the problems we have at home. The outrage at migrants harming people in our society is virtue signalling when we have no similar outrage at Brits doing the exact same thing.

Dogsandhens · 26/10/2025 10:02

Shakeoffyourchains · 26/10/2025 09:54

The hate is coming from the people who are currently telling 1st/2nd/3rd generation Brits that they don't belong here because they're not white, not those asking for compassion for migrants.

But it’s revealing that you mention “Islamification” and “overcrowding” there, both ideas that have been exaggerated to stir fear rather than reflect what’s really happening.

Ps no one is arguing for open borders.

Islamification is starting to become more apparent. The ban on Israeli football fans being a prime example. We all know why that has happened despite an attempt by some people to obfuscate and blame the Israeli fans. People who aren't obsessed with Gaza (which is most people in this country) can see this. We also have 80 or so sharia courts (bad for women's rights in particular), some MPs who were elected to promote the interests of the Palestinians not the British, and some MPs who would like British taxpayers to fund an airport in Pakistan. When does that sort of thing start becoming really rather unreasonable?

Lighttheway · 26/10/2025 10:02

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Lighttheway · 26/10/2025 10:03

Londonisthebestcityintheworld · 26/10/2025 10:01

Every true Christian I have spoken to is the same? Who created conversion therapy...? Remember that small paedophilic scandal the Catholic church had...? Who funds the pro-life movement?

And yet reform is all about maintaining our "Christian" values...

The "worst" parts of Islamic scripture are mirrored in the "worst" parts of Christian text. And remember Christianity came first so maybe the Muslims just copied them...

The moral superiority of Christians against Muslims is laughable. It was from the divine words of Christian scripture that the most oppressive laws in Western countries were drafted... indeed the Christian values are now denying women and LGB groups rights all across America.

Which just brings me back to my original point - why don't we discuss the problems we have at home. The outrage at migrants harming people in our society is virtue signalling when we have no similar outrage at Brits doing the exact same thing.

There is an epidemic of white pedophile priests in this country attacking the children, this needs to be addressed immediately

JamieCannister · 26/10/2025 10:04

Shakeoffyourchains · 26/10/2025 09:54

The hate is coming from the people who are currently telling 1st/2nd/3rd generation Brits that they don't belong here because they're not white, not those asking for compassion for migrants.

But it’s revealing that you mention “Islamification” and “overcrowding” there, both ideas that have been exaggerated to stir fear rather than reflect what’s really happening.

Ps no one is arguing for open borders.

We can debate about "Islamification" and "overcrowding" and the extent to which they are real, but it would be pointless.

Huge swathes of the country see the state of our crowded roads, underfunded hospitals and housing market (prices and rents) as evidence of the latter, and women with face coverings and Islamist terrorism as evidence of the former, so they will carry on believing both things whatever our debate concludes.

I suppose I am saying that the evidence of people's eyes is often right, and if it's not right it might as well be, because (most ordinary) people aren't going to believe X if they have seen Y.

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