Sick of the lie 'It's just illegal immigrants people don't like.'

[Slightyamusedandsilly]

This is just not true.

Reform, the flag flyers and protesters are racists. All of this 'It's just the illegals we want gone.' is a lie to excuse their racism.

..and they’re continuing it now.

They truly think big counter protests and accusations of racism will quell the dissent eventually. They say they’re ‘fine with reasonable discussion around immigration’ but practically speaking I’m yet to see anybody who has struck this magical tone when discussing immigration that they deem to be acceptable.

The thought of a Reform government is keeping me awake at night, but they can’t say they haven’t been warned.

This.

@GoodTimesNoodleSalad
I’m interested in what you mean? are you unhappy in your life situation

You're calling it out for what you think it is. If the UK had been able to have sensible discussion about immigration and integration many years ago perhaps it wouldn’t have reached this point. It’s hopeless at this point.

Are the citizens of this country, whatever their ethnicity, not allowed to be concerned about 1000s of undocumented young MEN of fighting age, coming in droves into the UK and being allowed to roam free wherever they wish?

YANBU, my local FB page shows exactly what it is about for most of them.
"Just got reasonable concerns" is usually horseshit.

I’m not white, nor am I British, and it concerns me.

There’s a lot envy and jealousy. Children of migrants have done well, they’ve worked hard , built careers and live in affluent areas. Then there’s a group of people who think they should be entitled to those careers, homes, savings and holidays well just because they’re ’indigenous’. It’s getting out of hand. It’s not about immigrants and never has been. It’s the politics of envy which is being used here.

I beg your pardon?

I mean you could be talking about Israel and Palestine if you put the conflict aside.

I bet you think ‘indigenous’ Palestinians are inherently entitled to ‘their’ land?

Your concern is disproportionate. Imagine if the same energy was used to oppose privatisation or failing schools. The back hole left by the tories.

As demonstrated by pp just before you.

There was a lot of concern about immigration when free movement was brought in from the Eastern European countries.

those countries are primarily white.

it is possible to be concerned about immigration and not racist.

there were impacts on government services - I worked in a school at the time and you really did get kids just turning up with virtually no English. It was quite challenging.

You’re not concerned, that’s great. Others are entitled to feel differently.

I also don't know anyone who is not concerned about unlimited immigration and I can't think that I know anyone who is racist.

Let’s be real, the average reform voter isn’t even remotely qualified to distinguish between an ‘illegal’ migrant and someone who just happens to be of an ethnic background. They’re all just foreigners.

Nice bit of stereotyping you’re doing there.

WordColourWord

Hardly, legal experts are usually the ones to determine immigration status of an individual.

So who are you to determine who the average Reform voter is?

It's UK Visas and Immigration actually, part of the Home Office.

I disagree. Many people with concerns regarding immigration are not racist in any sense of the word.

I do think people that do have racist views (so an instant negative judgement and dislike towards someone based on their skin colour ) are jumping on the bandwagon for sure.

But we must not let that silence the conversation of illegal immigration and the problems we are experiencing as a result. In fact, shutting the conversation down only inflames the hostility.

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