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Sick of the lie 'It's just illegal immigrants people don't like.'

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Slightyamusedandsilly · 26/09/2025 22:08

This is just not true.

Reform, the flag flyers and protesters are racists. All of this 'It's just the illegals we want gone.' is a lie to excuse their racism.

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Lighttheway · 26/10/2025 10:04

JamieCannister · 26/10/2025 09:59

Who is telling 1st/2nd/3rd generation Brits that they don't belong here because they're not white?

Can you please post some credible evidence of who is saying this? I am sure some people do, but it is categorically not TR or the vast majority on that march last month.

Like literally everyone, calling brown Brits immigrants, saying go home, waving England flags at them everywhere. Are you living under a rock?

HellsBalls · 26/10/2025 10:05

Reform will be in government after the next election unless Labour get a grip on immigration and publicize their successes.
I’ve yet to see a ‘big debate’ on prime time television that clearly makes the case for immigration in the numbers we’ve seen recently.
I’m yet to be convinced that letting in millions of immigrants benefits anyone except businesses which can use it to suppress wages.

Lighttheway · 26/10/2025 10:05

JamieCannister · 26/10/2025 10:04

We can debate about "Islamification" and "overcrowding" and the extent to which they are real, but it would be pointless.

Huge swathes of the country see the state of our crowded roads, underfunded hospitals and housing market (prices and rents) as evidence of the latter, and women with face coverings and Islamist terrorism as evidence of the former, so they will carry on believing both things whatever our debate concludes.

I suppose I am saying that the evidence of people's eyes is often right, and if it's not right it might as well be, because (most ordinary) people aren't going to believe X if they have seen Y.

Beautiful women covering their faces is normal. How is that offending you, do you like women, do you need to see their beautiful faces? I'm asking genuinely as how is what another woman does have anything to do with you, are you her husband?

JamieCannister · 26/10/2025 10:06

Dogsandhens · 26/10/2025 10:02

Islamification is starting to become more apparent. The ban on Israeli football fans being a prime example. We all know why that has happened despite an attempt by some people to obfuscate and blame the Israeli fans. People who aren't obsessed with Gaza (which is most people in this country) can see this. We also have 80 or so sharia courts (bad for women's rights in particular), some MPs who were elected to promote the interests of the Palestinians not the British, and some MPs who would like British taxpayers to fund an airport in Pakistan. When does that sort of thing start becoming really rather unreasonable?

To be fair, those Israeli fans are pretty damn bad irrespective of the possibility of jew vs muslim violence in Birmingham.

From five days ago "On Sunday, the Israeli Premier League derby between Maccabi Tel Aviv and Hapoel Tel Aviv was cancelled before kick-off, after what police described as "public disorder and violent riots"."

JamieCannister · 26/10/2025 10:07

HellsBalls · 26/10/2025 10:05

Reform will be in government after the next election unless Labour get a grip on immigration and publicize their successes.
I’ve yet to see a ‘big debate’ on prime time television that clearly makes the case for immigration in the numbers we’ve seen recently.
I’m yet to be convinced that letting in millions of immigrants benefits anyone except businesses which can use it to suppress wages.

And even that doesn't work because if businesses successfully suppress wages then ordinary people have no money for discretionary spending and businesses suffer.

Shakeoffyourchains · 26/10/2025 10:07

Dogsandhens · 26/10/2025 09:47

No the people have consistently voted for a reduction in immigration and instead governments have ignored the vote. Hence the situation we are now in.

If you blame the people then there's nothing to be done about it now. As Keir Starmer said, as soon as Labour got in we all became far right extremists anyway. Another of their amazing achievements.

No, the people have consistently voted for governments that say they’ll reduce immigration, then do the opposite once in power and then double downed at the next election because they believe the same lies again and can’t bear the thought of admitting they were wrong. And they're shaping up as if they're going to do exactly the same at the next election too.

Also you know that Starmer never said everyone was a far-right extremist, right? He was referring to the mobs violently attacking people based on their ethnicity and trying to burn down buildings full of asylum seekers because they wrongly thought an asylum seeker had committed an atrocity. Seems an apt description to me.

Lighttheway · 26/10/2025 10:08

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JamieCannister · 26/10/2025 10:08

Lighttheway · 26/10/2025 10:04

Like literally everyone, calling brown Brits immigrants, saying go home, waving England flags at them everywhere. Are you living under a rock?

Well evidenced. I am not saying that so you are 100% lying.

Dogsandhens · 26/10/2025 10:09

Londonisthebestcityintheworld · 26/10/2025 10:01

Every true Christian I have spoken to is the same? Who created conversion therapy...? Remember that small paedophilic scandal the Catholic church had...? Who funds the pro-life movement?

And yet reform is all about maintaining our "Christian" values...

The "worst" parts of Islamic scripture are mirrored in the "worst" parts of Christian text. And remember Christianity came first so maybe the Muslims just copied them...

The moral superiority of Christians against Muslims is laughable. It was from the divine words of Christian scripture that the most oppressive laws in Western countries were drafted... indeed the Christian values are now denying women and LGB groups rights all across America.

Which just brings me back to my original point - why don't we discuss the problems we have at home. The outrage at migrants harming people in our society is virtue signalling when we have no similar outrage at Brits doing the exact same thing.

Christianity went through the fanaticism, the Inquisition, the heretical burnings, the intolerance hundreds of years ago when this country was run on religious grounds. The UK has come out the other side. We don't want to revert to the 16th century where we have blasphemy laws, can't mention a certain person's name unless you want to go into hiding, can't drop a copy of the Koran, can't be gay, can't have women being equal to men. A secular society with the rule of law has clear moral superiority to a religious society.

Lighttheway · 26/10/2025 10:09

HellsBalls · 26/10/2025 10:05

Reform will be in government after the next election unless Labour get a grip on immigration and publicize their successes.
I’ve yet to see a ‘big debate’ on prime time television that clearly makes the case for immigration in the numbers we’ve seen recently.
I’m yet to be convinced that letting in millions of immigrants benefits anyone except businesses which can use it to suppress wages.

Then everyone can go to Benidorm, get drunk, trash the place and scare all the Spanish people as usual to celebrate. Yay

Lighttheway · 26/10/2025 10:12

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BMW6 · 26/10/2025 10:12

Dogsandhens · 26/10/2025 10:09

Christianity went through the fanaticism, the Inquisition, the heretical burnings, the intolerance hundreds of years ago when this country was run on religious grounds. The UK has come out the other side. We don't want to revert to the 16th century where we have blasphemy laws, can't mention a certain person's name unless you want to go into hiding, can't drop a copy of the Koran, can't be gay, can't have women being equal to men. A secular society with the rule of law has clear moral superiority to a religious society.

Absolutely. Islam is regressive and dangerous ideology.

JamieCannister · 26/10/2025 10:13

HellsBalls · 26/10/2025 10:05

Reform will be in government after the next election unless Labour get a grip on immigration and publicize their successes.
I’ve yet to see a ‘big debate’ on prime time television that clearly makes the case for immigration in the numbers we’ve seen recently.
I’m yet to be convinced that letting in millions of immigrants benefits anyone except businesses which can use it to suppress wages.

I actually think we're at the point that labour are utterly screwed, and will be wiped out. I can see more extremist anti-women, anti-LGB, anti-jew Lib Dem and Green MPs and labour getting wiped out at least as bad as the tories were last year.

The only questions are "can the Tories somehow find a way back" and "can someone like Rupert Lowe come up with a more credible alternative to Reform.

I am tempted to say that the only hope we have is if someone like TR can galvanize a mass movement of ordinary people to get behind Rupert Lowe as leader of a "back to basics, no nonsense, anti-immigration, anti-Islamism" right wing party who can save us from the clusterfuck that would be Nigel Farage PM.

Lighttheway · 26/10/2025 10:14

Dogsandhens · 26/10/2025 10:09

Christianity went through the fanaticism, the Inquisition, the heretical burnings, the intolerance hundreds of years ago when this country was run on religious grounds. The UK has come out the other side. We don't want to revert to the 16th century where we have blasphemy laws, can't mention a certain person's name unless you want to go into hiding, can't drop a copy of the Koran, can't be gay, can't have women being equal to men. A secular society with the rule of law has clear moral superiority to a religious society.

Noones asking anyone to be Muslim, yet many brits try to force binge drinking culture down everyone's throats. Noone wants to binge drink. And everyone has the right to their own culture without being forced to Convert to another culture they dont want.

EasternStandard · 26/10/2025 10:14

Dogsandhens · 26/10/2025 10:09

Christianity went through the fanaticism, the Inquisition, the heretical burnings, the intolerance hundreds of years ago when this country was run on religious grounds. The UK has come out the other side. We don't want to revert to the 16th century where we have blasphemy laws, can't mention a certain person's name unless you want to go into hiding, can't drop a copy of the Koran, can't be gay, can't have women being equal to men. A secular society with the rule of law has clear moral superiority to a religious society.

Yes @Dogsandhenswell said

Lighttheway · 26/10/2025 10:15

BMW6 · 26/10/2025 10:12

Absolutely. Islam is regressive and dangerous ideology.

Christianity has a lot of pedophile priests, isn't that a problem for British children?

Lighttheway · 26/10/2025 10:16

JamieCannister · 26/10/2025 10:08

Well evidenced. I am not saying that so you are 100% lying.

You're supporting racist views and ideologies on this thread pretty well though.

BMW6 · 26/10/2025 10:17

Lighttheway · 26/10/2025 10:15

Christianity has a lot of pedophile priests, isn't that a problem for British children?

No because most British children don't have any contact with Priests - paedophile or not 😂

Lighttheway · 26/10/2025 10:18

Shakeoffyourchains · 26/10/2025 10:07

No, the people have consistently voted for governments that say they’ll reduce immigration, then do the opposite once in power and then double downed at the next election because they believe the same lies again and can’t bear the thought of admitting they were wrong. And they're shaping up as if they're going to do exactly the same at the next election too.

Also you know that Starmer never said everyone was a far-right extremist, right? He was referring to the mobs violently attacking people based on their ethnicity and trying to burn down buildings full of asylum seekers because they wrongly thought an asylum seeker had committed an atrocity. Seems an apt description to me.

A Poor excuse to Indulge in basically the racist purge UK wise. How bout they attack the jails housing the largest number of white pedophile and rapists statistically?

Dogsandhens · 26/10/2025 10:19

@Shakeoffyourchains

The problem is the two tier approach to policing and the law. Starmer dealt with those he considered "far right" far more harshly than those who call for jihad and the obliteration of the Jewish state. For example, the courts became more efficient in dealing with the Southport rioters than anyone had ever seen in our lifetimes. The harsher prison sentences for those that had not committed a violent act compared to those that had.

The Epping protectors are labelled far right racists. And yet those on the hate marches are not labelled as racists (although everyone knows they are). Starmer doesn't get it unfortunately which is why things increasingly are kicking off because Labour aren't seen as ruling in the interests of the majority of the British people.

Lighttheway · 26/10/2025 10:21

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BMW6 · 26/10/2025 10:21

Lighttheway · 26/10/2025 10:18

A Poor excuse to Indulge in basically the racist purge UK wise. How bout they attack the jails housing the largest number of white pedophile and rapists statistically?

Why attack the jails where they are securely held? They are already being punished !

Try and make sense for goodness sake 🙄

Dogsandhens · 26/10/2025 10:23

Lighttheway · 26/10/2025 10:14

Noones asking anyone to be Muslim, yet many brits try to force binge drinking culture down everyone's throats. Noone wants to binge drink. And everyone has the right to their own culture without being forced to Convert to another culture they dont want.

Who has been trying to force binge drinking culture down your throat? I'd stop hanging out with those people if I were you?

Lighttheway · 26/10/2025 10:23

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Showing your true colours now..........😂

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