Sick of the lie 'It's just illegal immigrants people don't like.'

[Slightyamusedandsilly]

This is just not true.

Reform, the flag flyers and protesters are racists. All of this 'It's just the illegals we want gone.' is a lie to excuse their racism.

Ok besties, i've got to go, have fun trying to argue your case

Remember kids, White Supremacy is a Delusion, Humans are equal, racists have a special place in hell next to satan, Racism is a terrorist ideaology as proven throughout history and the most famous racist of all time was the homicidal, child and baby massacring, Satans very son himself- Hitler :).

@Lighttheway
I've asked you what have you done about these so called 20+ white men racially and sexually harassing you?

You've not answered me yet. Have you contacted the police?
What have the police done about it?

I dont know they probably sucked the police off and got paid a fiver each, a slap on the butt, but no warning. Gtg, have fun.

Agreed.
But also, what do you think about the Pakistani paedophile rapist gangs in Rotherham and Derby?

For goodness sake - the overwhelming majority of people living in England and Wales are white (82%), so yes, there are more of them in prison.

However, "white" doesn't mean just British-born men. Over 20% of white people in prison as at 31/3/24 were Albanian or Polish (considered white for official stats). You seem hell bent on trying to get people to believe that all serious offenders in UK prisons are white British born men, which isn't true. Does that therefore make you a racist?

Well not only do I think you're offensive and out of control, I'll also add LIAR to that list.
I don't believe for one minute people are harassing you, reason being because you can't answer without being obscene and vicious with your words, and you can't just give a sensible answer, this shows to me you're making everything up. That's my belief.
And it's probably another reason you've decided to leave, because you're realising how batshit you sound.

This has got to be up there with the most ridiculous comments I've ever read on mn.

I think I might be racist too - I have no problem with anyone moving to this country for a better life providing that they learn our language, work and pay taxes, respect our religions, cultures and traditions and generally bring something to the table. And if they bring their immediate or extended family, they need to earn enough to support them and they too should speak our language, work etc etc. But the minute anyone who has moved here whether white, black, brown, yellow or pink with blue spots commits a crime they lose their right to live here and they and everyone connected to them goes too back to their birth country. One strike and that's it yes even if they are white, from an English speaking country and protected by 'diplomatic' stuff

What about the home grown scroungers? 80% of benefit claimants are British and White.

This is the biggest drain and elephant in the room... Why isn't reform talking about this...?

The average reform voter also hates foreign aid. Look after our own innit.

Please tell me a single Muslim country that is safe... Where people who've grown up here could go to and not worry the West or Russia will one day decide to bomb and destroy.

I have so many Muslim friends across Britain and Canada and the US who tell me they'd happily go to another Muslim country... Except every 5 years some western country decides to bomb them back into the stone ages.

What a privilege it must be to be a reform voter. Totally fixated on the outcome of the problem rather than the source. Christian but with no qualms about deciding who is good enough for charity. Or thought of how those people ended up at our border.

Where are the women and children? I'm sure they haven't been sold into slavery or prostitution...

People want to live... they will flee wars... smugglers get paid brings them to our shore.

Deporting them is a band aid and someone will get paid a hefty government contract to do so. Waste of money you say...

Next reform policy... shoot them on sight... We can't feed the world after all. Someone needs to be paid for the bullets and guns but that's ok! But the people coming in aren't compatible with our Christian values...

The whole point of my comment is that it's based on a statistic rather than a subjective opinion. We can all judge for ourselves whether that statistic is a good thing or a bad thing.

We all walk in our own shoes and can only properly judge what we experience ourselves. We can't force others to agree with us or know what they themselves experience. Unfortunately successive governments have destabilised the social fabric of this country and the result is we have changed from a very tolerant country to a growing intolerant country. This is the fault of successive governments since 1997, not the people. It's a terrible thing they have done.

Yawn.

Lots of people are behaving and speaking as though they think it is inherently racist to have concerns about immigration. Which makes me conclude that either they think it is inherently racist to have concerns about immigration, or are very poor thinkers or expressers of their beliefs, or both.

When you say "express their concerns in obviously racist ways" you mean "express their concerns" and people are sick of it.

Look at the polls. Look at what people believe and work out a way of moving forward with the minimum of racism and violence. I promise you the answer is not telling people they are racists.

I have marched against racism and never so much as voted Tory let alone far right... and people like you are starting to make me think that being caled a racist is a badge of honour if the only other option is being in favour of open borders and continued islamification / overcrowding / division / hate..

Are you advocating the deportation of scrounging white brits who were born in britain to white british parents? Or are you advocating for treating everyone the same (ie letting them be scroungers - your word) even if they are not british and hate britain?

Is Lightthecway an American living in America looking at their language and slang?

It's entirely the fault of the people. Governments don't elect themselves and the people have chosen to elect general elect governments that put profit and growth for the few above all else and it appears they're hell bent on continuing to do so.

I didn't talk about deporting anyone?

Carry on with your tunnel vision.

No party wants to discuss the home grown issue with benefit lifestyle.

Scroungers is a word reform loves...

But obviously no reform voter is a scrounger - if they are on benefits they definitely deserve them.

Every problem in this country isn't the fault of immigrants. Brits have a lot of problems with their own citizens and I am boggled that any discussion of it means we hate the country.

Whataboutery.

"Because there are lots of other problems you must be racist if you are concerned about mass immigration, including lots of young muslim men who have very different ideas about women's and LGB rights than the average Brit, and have much more interest in making Britain Islamic than they do integrating"

Deport the scrounging racist Brits who don't do anything and replace them with normal human beings from other countries. Deport all racist criminals to a deserted island where they will have to dig for their own food and make their own houses.

Racism has skyrocketed in the Ok, it needs to be Extinguished. It is is a genocidal ideology, racism leads to genocide history has proven.

To be explicitly clear, if immigration was not one of the most important issues in British politic right now I am not sure it'd be on my radar in any significant way.

The reason immigration is massively important to me is primarily because I do not want a racist and literal fascist government, nor do I want an NHS-ending, corrupt, grifting, semi-racist, semi-fascist Reform government. Given what people think as a whole, the only way of avoiding what I do not want is for Labour, starting today, to really get on top of the issue in a way that many of their members will not like.

A quick google and I found a recent yougov link that said "45% of Britons say they would support an immigration scenario whereby no more new migrants were admitted, and large numbers of recent migrants were required to leave"

This ties in with other things I have read that suggest 70% of the population think immigration is a big issue (ie at the very least they would like less immigration and much less "bad immigration" (jihadists, criminals etc).

The issue is not going away. It will be tackled, the questions are which party tackles it, how competently they tackle it, how much cruelty and racism is part of tackling it and whether the party tackling it is selling the NHS to the USA at the same time?

You're VERY hung up on Hitler 😂

There are lots of white Christian men who have very different ideas about women's and LGB rights?

I've never met a single Muslim person in England who is like that. In fact, the scripture is that one should adapt to the country you are in. Examples of successful integration are everywhere in England but they are irrelevant for your narrative.

Usual trope - problematic white people have been failed or have mental health issues... problematic people of colour are intrinsically problematic.

A bit of white supremacy for a Sunday morning. Lovely

So you oppose anti-immigrant rhetoric, but support deporting British people.

Do you believe that your views are widely shared?