Are all of us foreigners just going to be told to pack up and leave if Reform win?

[Onegingerhead]

I might be totally unreasonable here (or not), but please hear me out.
(Bloody) foreigner here — I’ve lived in the UK since 2001. Built my whole life here: house, husband, DC, the lot. Worked the whole time in a field that requires the highest level of qualification.
I’m getting increasingly worried about the talk of Reform winning in 2029. Some even say it could be sooner if Labour are pushed into early elections. This week (as we all heard) our beloved Reform suggested rescinding ILR or even settled status from Europeans. God knows what else they’ll come up with, I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if they went after naturalised Brits next and started revoking citizenship, just to please the voters.
I know a lot of foreign-born women — some married to born-and-bred Brits, some to other Europeans (not always from the same country), some to men from overseas. All sorts of combinations.
So what do you think lies ahead for us? Will we be politely asked to leave, or will things just get so hostile that we’re pushed out anyway? And how likely is it that people who aren’t very white, or who have an accent, will face more discrimination in work?
I’m meeting my foreign friends tonight and we’ll be talking about it. For most of us, moving now would be incredibly difficult. We’re late 30s to early 50s, and starting over in a new country isn’t exactly easy. Some of us are married to men from different countries entirely, and we don’t even speak each other’s languages well enough to get proper jobs there.

AIBU and should think we will actually be allowed to stay?
AINBU sorry but you’d better start planning your move now

Great. Perfect opportunity for Farage to rip up the Withdrawal Agreement and get back to his roots - long running disputes with the EU.

You're correct. AI summary from ONS source material:
The provisional net migration figure for the year ending December 2024 was 431,000, a decrease of almost 50% from the previous year. This figure includes an estimated 948,000 people arriving in the UK and 517,000 people leaving. The drop was primarily due to a fall in long-term immigration, particularly on work and study visas, and a rise in emigration from the UK.

And be challenged by the courts and parliament.

I read some figures from an independent site says figures have gone down.

Why wouldn't that person be able to apply and gain Spanish citizenship again if they wanted to move back to Spain permanently? Since they are Spanish it wouldn't be a problem apart from the cost
I can’t believe I’m having to say this but they wouldn’t be Spanish anymore!

The independent is left wing. I don't read their rubbish. But I don't disagree we need to deport a lot of people. If anything Nigel probably won't have enough people deported. All illegals must go, legal immigrants need to be assessed- I wouldn't want someone who's been settled here 10+ years deported unless they were Shamima Begum type. If that offends anyone I don't care

It doesn't matter how they intend to enforce it. The whole point of the policy is to remove people's legal right to be here.

Do Irish people still emigrate to Britain? I spent five weeks in London and the south East last year and met three Irish people. All oldies like me. We're not having as many kids I guess.

Shamima Begum was born in Britain and had her citizenship removed for reasons of national security (she joined and continued to advocate for a terrorist group hostile to the UK). There's hardly any similarity to what we're discussing here.

No but that's a technicality ... if they were Spanish before giving up their citizenship then why would they have a problem getting a Spanish passport again?

Like if I gave up my UK passport because of living somewhere else that didn't allow dual citizenship like the UK does, I would always qualify to get it back because I was born here, have UK parents etc.

The obtuse callousness of the Reform apologists is something to behold. Real beacons of British values.

I have put this question to others and not had an answer.

So I am asking you - where does this figure in Reform's Manifesto?

I thought so. Sometimes I think I'm going mad on these threads with people pulling figures out their arses. But I suppose that is the intention.

This the figures according to the Independent newspaper, Sky news and host of other media yesterday …750,000. Mind blowing, larger than the city of Leeds it’s unbelievable.

UK population sees second-largest annual rise in 75 years fuelled by spiralling migration
Numbers grew by more than 750,000 in the year up to June 2024, ONS estimates show
Holly Bancroft
Home Affairs Correspondent

This is from yesterday’s Independent newspaper.

And we're still getting posters (who presumably have English as their first language) unable to comprehend that this thread is about what Dear Nigel has said about retrospectively rescinding the legal status of immigrants.

We are 4 years for a General Election, so why are people worrying about it now?

If they are in doubt they can consult an Immigration Lawyer.

"Pulling figures out their arses" just fuels the fire for Farage. Those figures happened, and then some. Net migration for year ending 2022 was 872,000, and for 2023 was 860,000.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/283287/net-migration-figures-of-the-united-kingdom-y-on-y/

Fine, dont read it.

You said:
"Most reform supporters don't want hardworking, contributing well integrated people deported."

But you are happy to vote Reform when their stated policy is to remove indefinite leave to remain, from people who have already been granted it, and make them apply for a visa every 5 years for which they would have to have a minimum income of £60k.

So if there was a couple both with ILR and earning £59k each, so a household income of £118k they would no longer have the right to remain in the country.

On what planet would they be considered to not be contributing?

Both things are true.

Most Reform voters don't want an overcorrection.

But with no other party offering reasonable correction, they face a choice between overcorrection and undercorrection.

And they're fed up with undercorrection.

Isn’t it funny how Britain is the only country where wanting to preserve anything of its history and norms is seen as oppressive and racist, whereas in any other country it’s seen as traditional, historical or charming and we must respect it while there? I find it very hard that some immigrants inherently expect the UK to water itself down and become left wing melting pot to accommodate them, while happily keeping their own culture preserved in their country of origin.

I see, a rational choice. That sounds oh so reasonable.

If only they didn't also adore that sense of solidarity against an (imagined) common enemy (immigrants) and that feeling of sweet superiority over lowly foreigners. At the bottom of it all, lies hate. At the very least, they should own it.

Possibly, just possibly, because it can take bloody ages to sort out citizenship here or to put one's affairs in order to emigrate?

The Home Office can spend months losing your application and then our passport is lost in limbo for all that time, during which can't travel abroad, which you might need to do for family or work. Similarly if you decide to leave the country, there's jobs to be found, visas for your British spouse and kids to be sorted, property to be sold/bought, savings to be moved.

It's not rocket surgery really.

Now this is where proper critical thinking comes into play. There's two sets of data each year, June and December. It's really important not to mix those figures up. And both were lower in 2024 than 2023.

I applaud your honesty.

He was waving around a brochure entitled "Prioritising UK Citizens" I can't find a copy of it online. They don't seem to have it on their website. Nor do they seem to have a manifesto on there so it won't be in their manifestonif they dont have one. However, I'm fairly sure that you can take Nigel announcing it to big fanfare as a confirmation that it is their new policy. You can't say that is not what Reform stand for when their leader is loudly announcing that it is.