ID cards to be introduced. What do you feel. ?

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I have worked in serious organised crime for two decades. This is one of the best bits of news I have read in a long while. I have also been involved in ‘small boat’ arrivals. The reason people will by pass several safe EU countries to get to the UK is ‘I can get lost if I don’t get asylum’ ‘UK has no ID cards’ . It’s a no brainer .. why why has it taken so long. ? If you want to have the services your country has to offer - through most of the world - from healthcare to the library- you need to show you are a bona-fida citizen. However , for some unfathomable reason , the flag waving right wingers are always the one to oppose ..is it because they are scared it will work and leave their thinly veiled racism floundering ?

Yes to ID cards = YANBU
No to ID cards = YABU

I'm not sold on the prospect of one. I turned on the news to the story yesterday, the next story was about the hacking of Jaquar land-rover, followed by the hacking of a nursery. And last week's Afghan resentment leak and the airports issues still fresh in my mind Doesn't really fill me with confidence.

No one has seen the costing yet. Assuming it's Palantir they will no doubt offer a good price for the first year. They are a private company so want profit and are susceptible to buy outs. Are you all happy to have a 3rd party holding your data? If they sell to the highest bidder what happens then? Every hacker will be dreaming of a shot at this. M&S, Co op, JLR are all this year.

You do know how laws work, presumably?

Welll, I was opposed to ID cards, but reading your insight, OP, makes me feel slightly optimistic that they might make a difference.

You already do if you have a passport, driving licence, or pay council tax etc

I dont have a problem with it as Iong as its not yet another thing we have to pay for and not needing another bloody phone app

UK is one of the few countries in Europe that doesn’t have ID cards. Can’t see how this will impinge on our rights.

They will be compulsory for people who want to work....not everybody....

Of course we will have to pay for it. All of government money is ours.

I thought the country was broke?

we are indeed also our own opinions too!

It's not the same as other countries as this one may carry a lot more information. Likely to have medical information etc......

Absolutely bloody crap!!
How does an ID card stop illegals from getting cash in hand jobs!
Every job I’ve ever applied for I have to prove who I am and show ID anyway… so why the hell do I need another form of ID?!

The distinction here is DIGITAL Id. We already have ID with our passports and to a certain extent online. I think the difference here is that it shouldn't be assumed that everybody wants to be 'Digital' and be connnected with their phones all the time just incase ID is needed. Most ID cards in EU are physical and I believe in US the Driving Licence serves the same purpose. Even now there is a link between Digital link between DVLA and HMRC so I am wondering what the announcement is actually all about? What more is needed Digitally? Barcodes tattooed on our foreheads just incase we lose our phones? Scary stuff.

And when it gets hacked or broken into or stolen? Or when you don't have a phone?

Nope.

School I work in gets hacked regularly already. I know some of my details are already in systems but everything in one place on a phone that's always on a mobile network?!

Nope

Pretty sure it will be a phone app:

BBC news: "The new digital ID will be held on people's phones, in a similar way to contactless payment cards or the NHS app. It is expected to include a person's name, date of birth, nationality or residency status and a photo."

Exactly I am in my late 40s and don't have a smart phone!

It's the cost that bothers me, the government isnt exactly known for delivering successful IT projects (I'm still waiting for my emergency alert test). Why can't I just use my drivers licence?
And if its to stop illegal immigrants working, there is already a system in place for that, illegal immigrants go to employers that don't check, so it won't help.

I have no problem with it. I’ve lived in other European countries where they’re compulsory and it’s not like their human rights have been thrown out the window or anything, or they’ve become authoritarian states as a result.

My view has always been if you have nothing to hide, then why would it bother you?

I think my original post on this matter may have been lost or not received. But it went something like this.

The proposed ID cards are just used as a pathetic, incompetent government who are desperate to look as they doing something really useful to control immigration.

Like the hokey cokey policy for returning illegal immigrants. You know. You take the next one in, and then you take one out. You do the hokey cokey and shake it all about.

First of all, introducing digital ID cards would be disaster in that it would offer a field day for forgers and hackers.. Loads of money to be made

Then there is the problem of storing all our personal info and data which would be a prime target for hackers.

Think about the current fiasco and disaster with JLR . Jaguar, Land Rover.

I also sense there are also a number of other commercial forces for their elite friend's companies behind this scheme.Which will undoubtedly cost billions

Snouts in the trough. As the daily Daily Mail would call them.. Think similar to the likes of De la Rue and Thales who print bank notes and passports. But other companies already involved in mass digital identification systems with terrible cards and apps.

I also think that Mega Monster companies like Black Rock have already reared their ugly head on this one. And were at the head of the table at the Consultation stage.

I bet if this silly scheme does go ahead.The gov will really do it on the cheap through some 10th rate company like Serco

What’s the connection? Different government, different purpose, different tech.

It should be a chip in the body, that way it will always be there, unlike a card or a thing on your phone.

You’d probably get takers on here but no thanks.

Same as a tattoo on your arm. I can find you a few million people who can tell you about that.

bring it on. I carry my driving licence as id all the time. this would be better. its moving with the times. you're tracked by your smartphone and your card transactions. this isn't tracking its just proving my id. my entitlement as a citizen to UK health and everything. easier by far than faffy paperwork.

You don't get us. Fine. Just stop there. Otherwise it is pure presumption to go on to accuse us of not wanting to do things for no practical reason but just because others, especially in Europe, do. If you don't understand us, that's your shortcoming, so at least have the courtesy to refrain from insulting us.