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My friend can't win, but don't know if he should

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Witchywishy · 25/09/2025 16:27

Not my situation, was out for dinner last night and we were talking about a mutual friend. His girlfriend is pregnant, he wasn't sure initially if he wanted her to keep it, but she was adamant and now he is onboard and happy with the outcome.

But he is disappointed she is insisting the baby has her name. She said that because they aren't married the baby will have her name- he has asked to double barrel as a compromise and she has said she doesn't need to compromise and that's that. Apparently he's now proposed, and she's said that she would have married him pre-pregnancy but now he's only doing it for the sake of the name.

Part of me has admiration for her sticking to her guns. But part of me feels sorry for my friend. The men in the group are all pretty horrified. Apart from it not really being our business what does the hive mind think on her stance?

OP posts:
Horsie · 25/09/2025 18:10

Witchywishy · 25/09/2025 16:42

I think he's committed to her, but wasn't looking for a child and that spooked him. There was never any talk of them breaking up, he wanted her to terminate the pregnancy.

Ahhhh, he's an adult having unprotected sex, and da baby spooked him? Poor little Pookie. I do think he should go to a rest home for six months to get over the shock. Maybe they can feed him bread and milk every three hours to get his strength back.

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JHound · 25/09/2025 18:11

I like his girlfriend. Good for her!

SirRaymondClench · 25/09/2025 18:11

In France women never lose their maiden name. They can also take on their husbands name but still also keep their own surname which is much better.

DinaofCloud9 · 25/09/2025 18:12

The cheek of him. First he wants to terminate the pregnancy now he's changed his mind, he insists the baby should have his name.

I wouldn't be expecting him to stick around so the baby would not be having his name.

ParmaVioletTea · 25/09/2025 18:13

PinkArt · 25/09/2025 17:55

Male privilege is not having to think about this because historically the world has left you top of the pile. The baby doesn't automatically get my manly man name? She doesn't even have to put him on the birth certificate? He can't register the birth without marrying her? There are no 'solutions' to a woman having autonomy?
It's sort of fascinating, in a bleak way, how little they consider women's lives until they are negatively impacted themselves.

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JHound · 25/09/2025 18:13

Redpeach · 25/09/2025 16:31

So her dad's name or father of child's name ? i'd go for the latter

Why does her boyfriend own his name but she does not own hers?

By your logic it’s her fathers name or her boyfriends father’s name.Why would she choose her boyfriend’s dad over her dad?

Dreamknits · 25/09/2025 18:14

My children have my surname, and I’m married (I also kept my own name) My husband was secure enough in himself to accept this, and understand the reasoning. The baby having her surname doesn’t make the baby any less his, he just has to be grown up enough to accept this.

diddl · 25/09/2025 18:16

She's 40 & he thinks now isn't right so she should terminate?

And what?

Try again when he deems the time to be right?

She shouldn't marry him on the grounds that he sounds thick!

Are you all of a similar age?

Berlinlover · 25/09/2025 18:16

I’m going get flamed for this but it sounds to me like she planned to get pregnant. Yes, of course he should have worn a condom but it sounds like she knew what she was doing.

Horsie · 25/09/2025 18:17

Witchywishy · 25/09/2025 17:02

Horrified might have been the wrong word. Perturbed maybe? Their friend really wants the baby to share his name, and they all think this is normal, but have been surprised that he has no say or leverage. I think it's been a real wake-up call and surprise to the guys in the group.

It's why we were discussing it, the men found it very odd, and couldn't find "solutions" for their friend.

😂 Sounds like a bunch of cave men sitting around going "Durrr, why can't I have my male privilege? Anyone know?"

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 25/09/2025 18:19

Redpeach · 25/09/2025 16:31

So her dad's name or father of child's name ? i'd go for the latter

It’s not her dad’s name, it’s her name!

Just as her dad owns his name and it doesn’t belong to the grandfather, so a grown woman owns her own name. The fact it’s the same name doesn’t make it any different, or their ownership of it different.

To the OP - I’m joining the chorus of “good for her”

Witchywishy · 25/09/2025 18:19

Simplestars · 25/09/2025 18:05

Should have thought about contraception then.

We might be massive gossips, but I can't comment on this. They've just said unplanned

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JHound · 25/09/2025 18:20

Witchywishy · 25/09/2025 17:57

To be fair he has always wanted kids, but he's having a bad time at work and this was a surprise to both of them. He thought later would be better, and she says that this might be her only chance. Really not ideal, but it isn't that he never wanted kids- just he wants to get his life on track first

Did you say the woman is 40? How did he think “later” would work?

JayJayj · 25/09/2025 18:20

Good on her. He didn’t want the baby. Now it is staying he wants it to have his name. So will marry her to get it!! Selfish. Why should it automatically be the male name just because it’s always been that way? The mother is the one that does all the hard part.

They could get married and she could keep her name.

I would have kept mine but I didn’t want the association with my “dad”

Just because something has always been done does not make it correct

Rewis · 25/09/2025 18:21

Witchywishy · 25/09/2025 17:57

To be fair he has always wanted kids, but he's having a bad time at work and this was a surprise to both of them. He thought later would be better, and she says that this might be her only chance. Really not ideal, but it isn't that he never wanted kids- just he wants to get his life on track first

So he doesn't understand basic biology or his plan was to leave her for a younger woman when he was "ready"?

Horsie · 25/09/2025 18:21

Chazbots · 25/09/2025 17:08

I'd have probably have ditched him completely over the lack of enthusiasm for the baby, tbh. Not very supportive and it sounds like he's been a bit of a dick all along. Good on her.

Hopefully she's planning to keep him around for help during the tsunami of having a baby and then might dump him when the baby's a year or so.

TheCryingTheBitchAndTheFloordrobe · 25/09/2025 18:21

She's 100% right and I am KICKING myself for not doing the same. Now my DC are changing their names by Deed Poll, which is a faff.

SouthLondonMum22 · 25/09/2025 18:21

Berlinlover · 25/09/2025 18:16

I’m going get flamed for this but it sounds to me like she planned to get pregnant. Yes, of course he should have worn a condom but it sounds like she knew what she was doing.

How does it sound like that when OP hasn't even brought up or might not even know those details?

JHound · 25/09/2025 18:21

PinkArt · 25/09/2025 17:59

😆His girlfriend is a financially stable 40 year old and he was thinking 'later'? Men are hilarious.

Why are so many of them so clueless about female fertility..

Rewis · 25/09/2025 18:23

JHound · 25/09/2025 18:21

Why are so many of them so clueless about female fertility..

A friend of mine is recently single and started dating, she's 43yo. Surprisingly large number of men are asking her is she is open to having children "down the line".

LordEmsworth · 25/09/2025 18:23

He can always change his name to hers, if it's so important to him to share a name with his child? Much less painful than giving birth, surely?

Woompund · 25/09/2025 18:24

Redpeach · 25/09/2025 16:31

So her dad's name or father of child's name ? i'd go for the latter

Some people will never view women as fully human the way men are

JustStopItNorasaurus · 25/09/2025 18:24

DinaofCloud9 · 25/09/2025 18:12

The cheek of him. First he wants to terminate the pregnancy now he's changed his mind, he insists the baby should have his name.

I wouldn't be expecting him to stick around so the baby would not be having his name.

Thsi 100%. Good on her.

Bloody men who want to have their cake and eat it.

JHound · 25/09/2025 18:24

Berlinlover · 25/09/2025 18:16

I’m going get flamed for this but it sounds to me like she planned to get pregnant. Yes, of course he should have worn a condom but it sounds like she knew what she was doing.

Based on….? Your misogyny?

nightmarepickle2025 · 25/09/2025 18:25

Good for her. Really riles me that I did all the work to make the babies but they have my partner’s name!