Farage promises to deport people with ILR

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Nigel Farage stated he would deport anyone with existing indefinite leave to remain. We are talking about millions of people.
This terrifying. If people live here, work here, have kids and mortgages - where are they supposed to go?

No, No, No @HelpMeUnpickThis , You can stay, you are safe, you are productive and a benefit to the community and to the country. As is my friend who works in Tesco. The problems are with the ones who are criminals and scroungers. Those who run drugs on County Lines.
It would be nice if we were allowed to choose which incomers we allow to live here. As it is now it is the incomer with nothing to offer who sits in his city and chooses between London or Paris.
That cannot be right for us, I suggest

All those saying that Farage is only saying it, he'll never actually do it.

The world was full of people telling us to look at what Trump does, not what he says - exactly the same argument about not actually believing what they say, and look what happened (lots of horrified people who can't believe he's deporting Grandma's who've been working and paying taxes for 20 years)

Exactly- who is going to want to come here with the whole world to choose from - but no they’ll choose a no mark unfriendly island with fewer ties across the EU/world than others, no visible benefits or USP. UAE has other advantages that we will never, ever match. US is becoming less popular I think but it’s size gives scope for collaboration in research stuff, and further opportunities than we can offer.
We will be a tax haven only, but not one of those nice ones, just handy for rich men’s cashflow with a few plebs to service whatever pleb jobs they need doing.

It’s not ‘deportation’ - it’s withdrawing benefits from people where their attempt to settle and become contributing members of society has clearly failed.

If people have moved here and can’t find legitimate tax paying employment then we can’t afford to keep them, they need to find somewhere where they CAN find a job.

How tragic. I’m sure your contribution would have made all the difference.

She may have dual citizenship or be applying for it before Reform potentially get into power to change the current rules.

People with British citizenship will definitely not be deported retroactively, he said in the conference.

I read what he said.

I stand by what I wrote in my previous post.

The goalposts have already moved. He has gone from targeting so-called "illegal migrants" to targeting those who are legally settled in this country. It isn't a massive reach to wonder who he will target next.

So where are the figures to back up Farage’s claim that “ 234bn is without a doubt too low”.If it’s without a doubt then they will surely have done the research to back this up yes?

My post was literally referencing those who cannot afford to support themselves, so are by definition, poor.

People said that about Brexit 😉

It is though, exactly how I feel.

That sounds perfectly fair.

I don’t think it’s deportation any more than having to leave after a visa expires. The person doesn’t meet the legal requirement. I don’t think it’s the right terminology.

Until she isn’t.
Redundancy? No visa.
Poorly and off work? No visa
Kids’ poorly and too many days off? No visa.

That’s an interesting statistic. We also have an issue in many London boroughs where 50% of social housing has someone born overseas as head of the household. It is extremely difficult to secure social housing in London, with waiting lists over ten years in some cases. Why is so much housing being allocated to people from overseas? What makes them eligible… ?

It's apparently withdrawing visas from people earning under a threshold that is being reported at twice the average wage. That will include a huge number of people who are vital for supporting our country, including our increasingly ageing and economically inactive population, with the work they do.

What would you call it instead?

YANBU. That would be two of my colleagues out of a team of six in a small business.

Quite apart from the appalling human consequences it's a massive fuck you to business up and down the country and it would leave millions of vulnerable and sick people without carers.

Showing their true colours now aren't they. Stupid fascist shitbags.

Just ridiculous scare mongering. It wouldn't happen. Can you imagine how many people would take this to court and how many millions we would need to defend the cases from the public purse? Labour, Tories, etc etc always throw stupid stuff in the ring before elections. This is no different. It won't happen.

Let's see the authoritative sources for those numbers. Without them, one might be tempted to suspect you're just making stuff up.

Incidentally, I'm about your age, and I can tell you that a major reason that the population has grown is that people of our generation are selfishly refusing to die.

That's because London is an international city, not because priority is given to those born elsewhere.

How silly.

He can’t. You can’t be stateless in international law so people who haven’t got another nationality can’t be booted out.

We all know unskilled migrants are very expensive. Why?

Employers love them cos they push wages down and don't ask for crazy luxuries like workers rights.

UK employers don’t pay much tax, so that’s why the poor worker - who doesn’t get paid enough to pay much either - cost the rest of us money. About £1million each, according to The Telegraph.

It’s hardly the worker’s choice to be badly paid.

There are other ways to contribute in which migrants excel - partic having children. The skilled/middle class locals have been starved out of breeding by property prices and the need for double income as standard. Social housing, the less said the better. More kids, more taxpayers.

Saying migration is a race issue is ridiculous in London, where most taxpayers are black.

What’s the term for someone leaving when their visa expires? Following legal requirement instead of overstaying

I agree. I’ve read what he’s said in a news article. He is basically saying he is going to scrap ILR, not that he’s going to deport any who currently have ILR. So basically anyone wanting ILR after he is PM, it will be scrapped for those people.

What's the term when someone is forced to leave?