Farage promises to deport people with ILR

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Nigel Farage stated he would deport anyone with existing indefinite leave to remain. We are talking about millions of people.
This terrifying. If people live here, work here, have kids and mortgages - where are they supposed to go?

No it wouldn't be right for people like you to be deported. But why can't you apply for British citizenship or dual citizenship - that would protect you if Reform ever did get into power.

Sneer all you like, but it's not actually very clever to make your country a hostile, unattractive place to live for well educated professionals who pay a lot of tax in order to pander to dimwits who think Nigel Farage is the best thing since sliced bread.

I can't find a link to it online. Can you post a link please?

So the solution to an aging and economically inactive population is to bring in more people to do the jobs the economically inactive won’t do? Meaning twice the burden on the infrastructure, and half the population being supported by those workers. Who then start aging themselves.

It’s a massive Ponzi scheme and totally unsustainable.

I’ve already answered. Do you use ‘deportation’ when a holiday visa runs out?

My question to these people is.... " OK You are a patriot, these feelings well up in you and have done for many years. How did you express them previously?"

They are not patriots they are racists. End of.

Proper order.

It’s not easy for everyone to get citizenship from ILR. The Life in the U.K. test can be a stumbling block for one - and don’t say ‘try harder’ fgs.

What worries me even more than Farage is the number of people on this forum and others who say:

It will never happen people wont vote for it - oh you mean like Brexit and trump

No one is listening to his narrative - well, yes they are. there are huge, huge numbers of people who go along with this.

Its illegal - laws are made by parliament and overseen by the judiciary. change the rules with a big enough majority get what you want simples.

the country will collapse - but only AFTER it has happened.

Too many people are just dismissing this rather than actually listening to the mood in the country. calling reform deform and other insults like followers of his are just gammons. so what? they get to vote and there are currently many more of them voting for him than not.

Look at america. we are a few years behind but it is happening here and its terrifying.

You would be alright with other countries sending back Britsh people such as those retired in say Spain?

I thought it was clear. Apply for citizenship or be a guest arbiter. Assuming he could make changes retrospectively in law then ILR becomes a very risky status to have

You’ve fallen down the far right rabbit hole.

immigrants are as a group net contributors.

That’s a separate issues all together so don’t conflate the two. If they are British born they can’t ‘stop them from coming’ can they?! So bore off with the racist card.

They need to do something to stop the population explosion and they need to make sure the people that come here have something to offer and are net contributors. PP is right, bringing in several family members make it moot.

Try getting in to Canada or Australia and bringing all of your family in! No chance! And quite right, they put the needs of their citizens first and that’s what the majority of people here want. Obviously not on MN but meanwhile the average Jo public does. Why do you think there is such uproar about using hotels as housing? The majority of people don’t think it’s fair that there are homeless Brits living on the street, where’s there accommodation??! How’s that fair??

I don’t understand why people make this childish argument. Go where you want. Some people may leave, some will stay. Britain’s priority is its citizens, not immigrants.

Really? Because Reuters say;

Farage said his policy would rescind ILR for those who already hold the status and would force them to reapply for the new working visa.

Rescinding ILR and forcing people into 5 year visas removes their existing right, and means that some of them will have their visa revoked entirely. We’d be sending people away who already qualify to be here.

He’s barbaric. And an idiot.

I’d guess a large number of the people posting on this thread would tell you that nobody is here illegally.

You would be wrong. The british were legendary for moving elsewhere without learning the language and hoovering up public funds. What do you think the East India Company and Imperialism were all about?

That would decimate hospitals and universities, key employers of skilled workers. Hmm, maybe that’s what he wants.

I do agree that the number of single male asylum seekers (blokes on the boats as I've heard people call them) is ridiculous & getting out of hand & needs to be stopped or definitely sorted as I bet at least 9 out of 10 of them are not refugees.

But going for anyone with ILR regardless is wrong.
Reform are starting to sound like the didn't seem too bad put our country first German Workers Party (1919 - 1920) who became National Socialist German Workers' Party fronted by that sounded 'oh so reasonable in the 1920 Hitler bloke' as he promised both Germany & Austria economic recovery.
And we all know what happened next.

Zia Yusuf is horrible & two faced & not a good Muslim - his own parents are immigrants.
And he thinks it's reasonable to pay the Taliban to take back the people who escaped from their murderous regime even women & children.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/reform-uk-nigel-farage-taliban-migrants-small-boats-b2814040.html

Some countries doesn't allow a double nationality therefore some people living here for a long time are hesitant of applying for a British passport as they will loose their birth nationality.

Passport fees are about 1000 quid, quite expensive comparing of how much that cost in other countries and with the rights on settle status ILR your rights are guaranteed so why spend 1000 pounds when you don't have to.

I suppose that if they win, and this is implemented they will give a period of time for those who whish to take the citizenship to do it. And some of the fees will be subsidise by the companies of those with high skill profiles and it done in other places. Although, some that can do it will leave anyway because why are you going to fund a country who clearly doesn't like you to be there?

Not to mention that some who will leave will come back as illegal as some are actually doing. And the retaliation from other countries which can "encourage" British people to come back.

I think is just talk, populist I talk if I'm honest.

Are you a citizen of that country, and entitled to benefits? What would happen if you were unable to work and DH couldn't afford to support you and DC?

Why not?

My family members retired there. They could never have become citizens. But sure, that would have been for the Spanish government to decide.

He has said he is raising the bar so those with ILR only get 5 years at a time and must earn more to cover dependents and not claim benefits. So they can stay if they work, earn enough to support their families and pay tax.

How many ?? Do you have the figures for this?

This post needs to be reported for misinformation.