Meet the Other Phone. Protection built in.

Meet the Other Phone.
Protection built in.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

Farage promises to deport people with ILR

1000 replies

Acidburn · 22/09/2025 12:21

Posting in AIBU for traffic.
Nigel Farage stated he would deport anyone with existing indefinite leave to remain. We are talking about millions of people.
This terrifying. If people live here, work here, have kids and mortgages - where are they supposed to go?

OP posts:
Thread gallery
12
birling16 · 22/09/2025 13:55

@HPFA I agree. I could cry really.

The bastard flag shaggers are all over my area.

MalinandGo · 22/09/2025 13:55

Twiglets1 · 22/09/2025 13:54

That's a bit of an exaggeration - no one is getting killed are they?

I think history teaches us that none of this starts with people getting killed. It does tend to end up there though.

BeHappySloth · 22/09/2025 13:55

Twiglets1 · 22/09/2025 13:52

I think in reality it is not the doctors, engineers or scientists that Farage is seeking to exclude. They can apply to extend their visas if they want to and people with high level skills are realistically welcome in any country.

I agree that those are not the people who he is seeking to exclude, but they may well be the people who choose to take their skills and their taxes elsewhere, because of the hostile and insecure environment that Farage seems hell bent on creating.

Twiglets1 · 22/09/2025 13:56

MalinandGo · 22/09/2025 13:55

I think history teaches us that none of this starts with people getting killed. It does tend to end up there though.

I think it's hyperbole to compare this to Nazi Germany. There isn't one specific ethnic or religious group being targeted.

Sunbeam01 · 22/09/2025 13:56

BeHappySloth · 22/09/2025 12:39

Before that, I imagine that they will go for revoking the British citizenship of people who were born overseas.

And then they'll go for the children.

It's chilling.

This is such a typical lazy identity politics mumsnet response.

Has anyone actually bothered to read what he has actually said!?

Nope. Thought not.

DuncinToffee · 22/09/2025 13:56

usernamealreadytaken · 22/09/2025 13:52

Canada, USA, Australia. UEA welcomes skilled workers and removes those who cant support themselves, why is that wrong? Do you think the UK should be the home for all the world’s poor?

Do you think only the world's poor immigrate to the UK?

The UK has a points based immigration system.

BeHappySloth · 22/09/2025 13:56

MalinandGo · 22/09/2025 13:55

I think history teaches us that none of this starts with people getting killed. It does tend to end up there though.

Yep

Twiglets1 · 22/09/2025 13:57

BeHappySloth · 22/09/2025 13:55

I agree that those are not the people who he is seeking to exclude, but they may well be the people who choose to take their skills and their taxes elsewhere, because of the hostile and insecure environment that Farage seems hell bent on creating.

They will work where they want to and as I said before, will be welcome anywhere as part of the highly skilled/highly paid group.

birling16 · 22/09/2025 13:57

People seeking asylum ARE FORBIDDEN TO WORK

It doesn't matter if they are an eye surgeon or a farmer or a hairdresser or somebody who would pick up the shitest jobe we have. They cannt work

usernamealreadytaken · 22/09/2025 13:57

Dontasksillyquestions · 22/09/2025 13:40

But why deal with the uncertainty and expense when they can use their skills and pay taxes almost anywhere in the world?

They’ll probably have to fill in a fair few forms to be able to go “anywhere in the world” though.

Cosmicbroccoli · 22/09/2025 13:58

BundleBoogie · 22/09/2025 12:57

OP is presenting very selective information here - almost tabloid headline level designed to rile up people.

Looking at proper reports on this and what they actually said, they are not targeting net contributors like yourself, they want to end ‘benefit tourism’ from outside the EU. Which will benefit you as a resident and taxpayer.

Will it though? the think tank who originally came up with it have said the figures shouldn’t be used
“Reform said the mass deportation would save £234bn, though the figures come from a Centre for Policy Studies report that has been withdrawn because of a dispute over the numbers. The thinktank has said its costs “should not be used”.
Pretty disingenuous to put this out there when the figures have been disputed.
.https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/sep/22/farage-vows-to-scrap-settled-status-placing-thousands-at-risk-of-deportation

Farage vows to scrap indefinite leave to remain, placing thousands at risk of deportation

Reform UK plans to force non-citizens to apply for visas, with high salary thresholds and no access to NHS services

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/sep/22/farage-vows-to-scrap-settled-status-placing-thousands-at-risk-of-deportation

birling16 · 22/09/2025 13:58

BeHappySloth · 22/09/2025 13:56

Yep

I suspect some people have already been killed ie had their heads kicked in.

DarkYearForMySoul · 22/09/2025 13:58

Friendlygingercat · 22/09/2025 12:40

In the past too many people have been allowed in and granted British passports and citizenship. Many of these people are not net contributers because they bring in unproductive dependents who are using schools, the health service, housing and so on. They should only have been allowed in as single guest workers and with all the restrictions on use of facilities that that implies. There are now too many people in this country. When I was a child in the 1950s our population was around 50 million. Now its appriaching 70 million many of whom are not economically active.

@Friendlygingercat do you really resent all the Australians, New Zealanders, Americans, French and Spanish so much that you don’t want them living in this country?
What should their British born kids do?

birling16 · 22/09/2025 13:59

Twiglets1 · 22/09/2025 13:54

That's a bit of an exaggeration - no one is getting killed are they?

yet

blackbunny · 22/09/2025 14:00

So presumably that would mean deporting his German born partner then?

BeachLife2 · 22/09/2025 14:00

I fully support removing people who are here illegally, but attempting to deport people who have ILR is ridiculous.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 22/09/2025 14:00

Dontasksillyquestions · 22/09/2025 13:54

And that is exactly my point. Most won’t stay unless they have some other ties to the UK. It’s one thing to change things going forward, but another to have something you’ve worked for suddenly revoked and find yourself on shaky grounds.

You seem to think that it’s some great privilege to work in the UK and people come here for the honour, when in fact it’s an economic transaction that only works as long as both parties see some benefit, And the UK does have a lot to gain from immigration. Do you think successive governments have (rightly or wrongly) allowed people to come over and bring their families out of the goodness of their hearts or to make it a more attractive prospect for highly skilled workers?

I'm a British citizen living abroad. I went to state school and then university in the UK in the last days of the 1k a year tuition fees era, so my education was largely funded by the British taxpayer. Before I left, in my early 30s, I was a higher rate taxpayer.

I am now married to a citizen of the country I live in, and have two children who are British by decent. We have absolutely no interest in even trying to move to the UK. The idea of spending thousands of pounds on visa fees for my husband, who, pre-Brexit, could have just come to the UK and stayed for as long as he liked, with no guarantee that he would get the visa, or that he wouldn't be kicked out if ever my income dropped below a certain level, just sticks in my craw. What if we upended our lives to live in the UK and then I got ill and had to stop working, meaning I no longer had the required level of income to sponsor my husband to remain? No fucking thank you very fucking much.

So my adopted country, and not the UK, will benefit from my economic contribution for the rest of my life.

ScrollingLeaves · 22/09/2025 14:00

It would cover a lot of people they don’t think it does.

Twiglets1 · 22/09/2025 14:00

Cosmicbroccoli · 22/09/2025 13:58

Will it though? the think tank who originally came up with it have said the figures shouldn’t be used
“Reform said the mass deportation would save £234bn, though the figures come from a Centre for Policy Studies report that has been withdrawn because of a dispute over the numbers. The thinktank has said its costs “should not be used”.
Pretty disingenuous to put this out there when the figures have been disputed.
.https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/sep/22/farage-vows-to-scrap-settled-status-placing-thousands-at-risk-of-deportation

From the BBC report:

Labour has noted the figure came from a report by the Centre for Policy Studies, external, a Thatcher-founded think tank, which later said the cost estimates "should no longer be used" after a challenge by the Office for Budget Responsibility.

But Farage said the "exact figure" was not known due to gaps in publicly available data but argued the £234bn figure "is without doubt too low".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c930xypxpqpo

usernamealreadytaken · 22/09/2025 14:02

DuncinToffee · 22/09/2025 13:49

Well Reform would like to be more like that, so I guess integration can be scrapped from their list.

And most immigrants in the UK can't claim benefits.

They can claim benefits once they are granted ILR, thats kind of the point of the policy.

HPFA · 22/09/2025 14:02

birling16 · 22/09/2025 13:55

@HPFA I agree. I could cry really.

The bastard flag shaggers are all over my area.

Yes, and they now look damp, dirty and ragged.

But they've shown who they are now. Nobody who is truly patriotic can support this shameful policy.

GoodTimesNoodleSalad · 22/09/2025 14:03

Dontasksillyquestions · 22/09/2025 13:54

And that is exactly my point. Most won’t stay unless they have some other ties to the UK. It’s one thing to change things going forward, but another to have something you’ve worked for suddenly revoked and find yourself on shaky grounds.

You seem to think that it’s some great privilege to work in the UK and people come here for the honour, when in fact it’s an economic transaction that only works as long as both parties see some benefit, And the UK does have a lot to gain from immigration. Do you think successive governments have (rightly or wrongly) allowed people to come over and bring their families out of the goodness of their hearts or to make it a more attractive prospect for highly skilled workers?

It’s an attractive prospect for low-skilled workers, and the benefits are ridiculously generous. Macron said this recently.

The UK is seen as a soft touch, because they do it out of the goodness of their hearts, as you say. I find it odd you don’t seem to think living in this country is a privilege. It’s the lack of pride I find quite pitiable and almost contemptuous. Why should any immigrant respect or value a society which its own citizens regard with such little respect?

DuncinToffee · 22/09/2025 14:03

Twiglets1 · 22/09/2025 14:00

From the BBC report:

Labour has noted the figure came from a report by the Centre for Policy Studies, external, a Thatcher-founded think tank, which later said the cost estimates "should no longer be used" after a challenge by the Office for Budget Responsibility.

But Farage said the "exact figure" was not known due to gaps in publicly available data but argued the £234bn figure "is without doubt too low".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c930xypxpqpo

And he can back that up?

Or is it just another lie 🤔

inertia123 · 22/09/2025 14:03

I know, it's just incredible, and terrifying. EU national here, in the UK since the late 90s, married to a Brit, two kids. Don't earn enough for a visa under these plans. So people are happy for people like me to be deported? We seem to be in a whole new realm now.

usernamealreadytaken · 22/09/2025 14:03

birling16 · 22/09/2025 13:53

I am seriously afraid. It's like the rise of the Third Reich.

Terrifying.

Bingo! First Nazi reference ✔️

Please create an account

To comment on this thread you need to create a Mumsnet account.

This thread is not accepting new messages.
Swipe left for the next trending thread