Farage promises to deport people with ILR

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Nigel Farage stated he would deport anyone with existing indefinite leave to remain. We are talking about millions of people.
This terrifying. If people live here, work here, have kids and mortgages - where are they supposed to go?

I believe they said that ILR would be abolished and people would have to apply for visas instead under more stringent rules. Fair enough if it’s for new applicants. Immigration law can change at any time, it is what it is.

But if they’re thinking of revoking existing ILR and having people reapply for visas instead, I’m out of here. I’m a net contributor, never taken benefits, and have built a good life in the UK, but I won’t be jumping through hoops to stay. The world is big, I can take my money and pay my taxes elsewhere.

Which countries?

Reform states the UK should align with the UAE, do you agree?

Sounds perfectly reasonable to me.

The same Nigel Farage that married a German and went on to have children with her.

At minute 36 of the reform conference they say that the proposal doesn’t include EU nationals, unless they are claiming UC, for which negotiations “may” be started with the EU.

So you’re yet another poster who is happy to continue to import poor foreigners to do underpaid work, rather than force employers to pay UK staff enough money to live on so we don’t need to import poor foreigners?

What is your source for this? I have read he is going to scrap the ability to apply for ILR not deport people with it??

Not sure why so many people are saying to not worry about it.

Farage is Trump in less orange clothing. He does not care about the legal process.

The man is an absolute tool and this cannot ever happen. It wouldn’t get past the law lords.

He is honestly just preaching to the lowest rung on the ladder.

And used his French girlfriend to avoid SDLT!

If Labour and the Tories don’t entertain a similar policy by the next election I will be surprised. They will have to.

He did say Britain would opt of things like the European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) if Reform got voted in - they currently block a lot of things to do with returning illegal immigrants.

Indeed. But the rule of law cares about him.

That is true but did he talk about earnings? I missed the speech. From what I can pick up online there is a distinguishing commentary on lower and higher earners.

What do you think the 'foreigners' are living on? The same underpaid work.

For whatever reason many of these jobs aren't being filled by people already in the UK, but by people who came here to do them, who also have to earn enough to live off.

The system proposed, even at the broadest brush level, would cost a small fortune to run. As usual I see we have been offered some astronomical sum of 'savings' to be generated without any actual maths behind it.

And the earnings cut off for a visa is set well above the salary of our health and care workers, our teachers, our public sector operational staff, so we would be looking at yet another drain on the people who keep the country afloat. Well, well above. If we really want to end the scourge of low paid work perhaps we could look to Mr Farage's billionaire friends to start paying higher wages and remove the need for the state to subsidise working people through UC just to pay their bills? And higher taxes so we have better public services and higher public sector pay?

I don't believe Reform will ever be able to bring this policy in.

But, neither do I think focusing on being a "net contributor" is helpful. Anyone can become sick, disabled etc. at any time. Let's not add disablist rhetoric to the already racist rhetoric.

I would object if that form means that I am no longer eligible for public services I'm paying for, yes.

His current partner is French

Farage's ancestors were German and French refugees.

I believe he has a Belgium passport

As the saying goes Farages promises are pie crust, made to be broken.

What’s the problem?

If you want to go, fine. The British state is under no obligation to make it easy or convenient for you. I could leave too if I chose to. All these posts from people threatening to take their taxes with them - do you expect people to beg you to stay? Why the sense of entitlement? It’s a privilege to be here, not a right.

Don't they also want to abolish the house of lords and remove us from the ECHR though?

They’re going to run out of people who work and pay taxes very very quickly…

Here’s the thing. Reform don’t. But removing ILR will just mean the end of settlement via this route without contributing large amounts of tax.

Do you think it would be sound to rescind the ILR status of someone who may have contributed a lot over many years and then fallen on hard times, e.g. because of serious illness or disability? People who have built their lives here suddenly finding that their rights may be removed?

We already have measures in place to stop new immigrants from having recourse to public funds. Why shouldn't there be a level of protection for those who have worked and paid into the system?