Farage promises to deport people with ILR

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Nigel Farage stated he would deport anyone with existing indefinite leave to remain. We are talking about millions of people.
This terrifying. If people live here, work here, have kids and mortgages - where are they supposed to go?

Oh shit. I did that crap test already when I did my ilr. I aced it but its just So annoying and takes too much of my precious time and brain space. Shit
Thanks for responding by the way

It’s not 234 billion and the group that first suggested that figure has disavowed it.

And before you complain about a link to the Guardian the FT reported exactly the same.

“Reform said the abolition of ILR would save £234bn because of benefits claims.

The figures come from a Centre for Policy Studies report that has been withdrawn because of a dispute over the numbers.

The thinktank has said its costs “should not be used”.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/sep/22/farage-vows-to-scrap-settled-status-placing-thousands-at-risk-of-deportation?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

@Onegingerhead friends from the EU should not be affected as they would fall under a reciprocal agreement that the UK made with the EU after Brexit. They should still have "settled status" it is non EU nationals who will mostly be affected by losing their ILR (if Reform ever get in which seems less likely after this press conference!)

Anna Turley, the Labour party chair, said: “Reform have been forced to admit that their policy does not apply to people from the EU – destroying Farage’s claims that it covers all foreign-born nationals.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/sep/22/nigel-farage-roundly-condemned-over-plan-to-abolish-indefinite-leave-to-remain

I was just quoting someone else who quoted 234 billion.

The reality is no one seems to know the exact cost - Farage said in the press conference he thinks it's way higher than that but who knows? He said he can't get accurate figures as there is no transparency on costs.

Have people learnt nothing, from watching Trump, about how these people work?

You say something absolutely outrageous, with a clear and striking message but details which are either absent or self contradictory. The morons who support you don't CARE about the details, they only care about the message.

And it blows a big fat hole in the right hand side of the Overton window. Then you can take all the time you want to worry about details with the new, enlarged window.

I have no words to describe how angry I am that people are trying to justify or defend this ridiculous, unworkable stream of nonsense from that fascist grifter.

I don't believe people are stupid enough to genuinely think asylum seekers and migrants are receiving a 4 star service in our hotels. That has to be weaponised ignorance.

Now to go after people that are quietly going about their lives , contributing to the economy, is disgusting. To defend this is just as bad.

So lucky for him isn’t it?! I reckon it will save 184 gazillion pounds each year, enough to buy every true born subject their own NHS hospital.

Other than anecdotes - which we can all find to prove whatever point we wish to make - there just isn’t the evidence to back up claims about immigration being a significant cause of wage suppression.

A Bank of England study from 2015 looked at data from 1992–2012 (ie the A8 period) and at occupation by region. They found:

• 10-percentage-point rise in the immigrant share within an occupation/region is associated with ~0.2% to ~1.9% lower wages in semi/unskilled services; much smaller/insignificant effects elsewhere.

Immigration impact on average British wages is small and limited to the semi and unskilled services (so not the builders you mention, but probably a small effect on labourers). The effect of accession is much lower than the impact of 2008 or Brexit. And the effect of your cleaner sending money back home is dwarfed by the amount of money hoarded by the super rich and corporations. But we need billionaires to create wealth right?

It’s quite mind blowing that you’re doubling down on this bizarre claim but ok.

The government and media reports on this refer to them as hotels.

The buildings haven’t changed.

The facilities haven’t changed.

The bedding (mentioned upthread) hasn’t changed (unless they’ve bought in brand new for the asylum seekers - there are reports of new beds and tv equipment so maybe?)

The staffing hasn’t changed (unless you’re suggesting there has been mass redundancies of hotel staff which is entirely possible as the media often refuse to report these stories)

You have made some extremely big assumptions based on zero information (pesky media again) but think about it. Why wouldn’t they open the pool for the men to have something to do? Why wouldn’t they let them in the sauna?

The staff in these hotels are looking after large numbers of single bored men. One has already paid with her life, and several rapes have occurred (one in Hyde Park by a known terrorist from Egypt in an asylum seekers hotel) it wouldn’t be a surprise if they tried to occupy them to reduce the time they are on the streets harassing schoolgirls.

I think you need to read up a bit and understand what you are actually talking about.

you repeat the figure without referencing that it’s been withdrawn.

even the fake figure wasn’t right by the end of the conference because they had to double back on EU IDL so the remaining figure will be far lower.

Why would they use figures that were incorrect in the first place I wonder.

Seven figures? Partner or not, that’s a bit of a reach! Have you ever worked in a law firm?

I’ve drawn up contracts for new partners. Absolutely no where near seven figures.

It’s vastly exaggerated. No partner earns over seven figures.

Of course the facilities have changed. Of course they’re not paying the costs of upkeep on pool and spa facilities for these guys. The food isn’t the same, the cleaning isn’t the same (and the staffing is almost certainly lower as hospitality runs big on zero hours contracts so no redundancies needed), the bedding may not even be the same as you’re moving from double beds to singles/bunks. The buildings were four star hotels, but now they are basically hostels in nice buildings.

Farage said yesterday that everyone with ILR would be deported.

These people don't live in hotels. They have mortgages. Children. Jobs. You probably don't even know who they are. They are assimilated.

This is who will deported. Asylum seekers will still come here.

Zia Yusuf, Reform’s head of policy, clarified yesterday that the party was not scrapping European settled status.

However, Farage said that Reform plans to negotiate with Brussels to prevent EU citizens with “settled status” from claiming benefits if it wins the next general election.

@jjz The average earnings for a partner in a Magic Circle law firm is around £2m so comfortably into 7 figures.

Well, that's hundreds of thousands of votes which Reform won't get, then, so carry right on, Nige. He knows perfectly well that he wouldn't dare to put this into effect, because inevitably he'll end up deporting business leaders, heart surgeons, nurses etc and there would be an absolute shitstorm.

The fact that he proposes to deport thousands of settled, working, taxpaying vital contributors to our workforce and economy demonstrates that this has nothing to do with concerns about immigrants and everything to do with racism,

Exactly!

@Ratafia but wouldn’t those people comply with what Reform have said will be replaced leave to remain so no danger of deportation?

Yes, the British system is working better today. If you’d have asked me 10 years ago whether the Republicans could have blocked Obama from legally filling a Supreme Court vacancy 8 months before an election under the guise of “he shouldn’t be appointing judges this close to an election,” I would’ve said that would never happen.

Then if you would have asked me 4 years later whether the Republicans would have rushed through Trump’s Supreme Court nominee 11 days before an election, I would’ve said they wouldn’t be allowed 11 days pre-election, given that 8 months pre-election was deemed to be too close last time.

The courts are only impartial, until they aren’t. That’s the point. Today the UK courts do the right thing, just as they used to in the US. If we flirt with autocracy/Farage, things that “would never happen here” start happening here. That’s the point.

You have made some extremely big assumptions based on zero information (pesky media again) but think about it. Why wouldn’t they open the pool for the men to have something to do? Why wouldn’t they let them in the sauna?

Very few asylum seekers are in hotels with pools or saunas. They are in basic bed and breakfast type places under block contracts negotiated with the Home Office. If they do have pools and saunas, those contracts certainly don't pay enough to cover swimming pool and sauna upkeep and maintenance.

Because Reform is way too shambolic and lazy to put together a system that guarantees they will never be deporting a hardworking nurse or caseworker.

You keep claiming this - do you have a link to where he said that "everyone with ILR would be deported"?

Because he really didn't - he said that ILR would be replaced (in the unlikely event of Reform winning the next election) with a work visa that needs to be renewed every 5 years.

That is not the same as "everyone" getting deported, though some non EU migrants would be if they didn't qualify for a work visa.

Zia Yusuf wrote in The Telegraph that he plans to rescind ILR retrospectively

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-welfare-reform-people-b2830933.html

@IceLollyMolly yes, and replace it with a visa.