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Farage promises to deport people with ILR

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Acidburn · 22/09/2025 12:21

Posting in AIBU for traffic.
Nigel Farage stated he would deport anyone with existing indefinite leave to remain. We are talking about millions of people.
This terrifying. If people live here, work here, have kids and mortgages - where are they supposed to go?

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ThatCyanCat · 23/09/2025 07:16

Autumnlightss · 23/09/2025 06:54

I totally agree, im the very same, been in uk since 98. I have nowhere in the origin country to go.
Dh an kids British, I can't afford to pay for British naturalisation.
Very worried.

How much is it? I'm not for a second defending Farage, the arsehole, but even if Reform get in it won't be for a few years and if it's at all possible to gather the money together in the meantime then it would certainly seem worth it.

Bipitybopitybo · 23/09/2025 07:16

Autumnlightss · 23/09/2025 06:54

I totally agree, im the very same, been in uk since 98. I have nowhere in the origin country to go.
Dh an kids British, I can't afford to pay for British naturalisation.
Very worried.

I’ve been here since 98 too and I see nothing in their manifesto that says we would be affected?? This all massively feels like fearmongering.

my preference would also be for the other political parties to get off their arses and face up to him! Instead of dithering and waffling.

Naanspiration · 23/09/2025 07:16

BunnyMcDougall · 22/09/2025 15:07

You can say that the British system us “better” all you want. Until it’s not.

History tells us that the US system of 3, Co-equal branches of government, was implemented by former Brits who believed their new system was more foolproof than the British system.

Trump got control of all 3 branches, which was never supposed to happen. But it did. Farage is watching Trump’s playbook. I’m fact, he had lunch with Trump 2 or 3 weeks ago in DC.

It is better.

Why couldn't the Tories implement their Rwanda asylum plan? They spent over half a billion quid trying to relocate asylum seekers to Rwanda but were thwarted by the courts. In the end they could only remove someone if they volunteered to go 🤔.

Only 4 asylum seekers volunteered.

BundleBoogie · 23/09/2025 07:18

Toastandbutterand · 22/09/2025 23:39

The whole arguement is moot.

He categorically said everyone with indefinite leave to remain will have it revoked.

Farage said that today.

Everything else is posters making stuff up to ease their conscience.

One in ten people.

He wants them all gone.

He has said this, this is what you are voting for. Do not pretend otherwise.

You really really need to read up on this.

from the BBC report:

Reform said the changes would not apply to EU nationals whose settled status is protected under the European Union Withdrawal Agreement - and who make up the majority of benefit claimants by people with ILR.

In July, there were 213,666 people with ILR claiming Universal Credit benefits, according to figures published by the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP), external.
There is no breakdown of different benefits claimed by people with ILR, but about a third of people claiming Universal Credit are in work.
Separate estimates from the Migration Observatory at the University of Oxford put the total population of non-EU citizens with ILR at 430,000 at the end of 2024.

Autumnlightss · 23/09/2025 07:19

ThatCyanCat · 23/09/2025 07:16

How much is it? I'm not for a second defending Farage, the arsehole, but even if Reform get in it won't be for a few years and if it's at all possible to gather the money together in the meantime then it would certainly seem worth it.

I believe its around £2.5-3k with all that paperwork. And if you fill up something wrong, they decline and they keep the fee.
I can't afford to lose that kind of money, nor I have the money..

Smilingintherain · 23/09/2025 07:21

BlueShiney · 23/09/2025 06:32

Oh yes the boring ‘lazy Brits’ argument…The builders I know were undercut in price by cheap labour from Europe who would work for half the price as it was still more money to them than what they’d get back home in EE.

I also knew a hotel cleaner 16 years ago who was sending her money back home to Europe to build her dream house, as the wages were so much higher here than what she could have got at home. She happily told me this and I don’t blame her, I would do the same but that doesn’t mean it was great for the British population and the majority who voted Brexit felt that way.

Get your facts righy about economics and how they work then your post might be worth a read

Edited

Agree. The standard of workmanship has seriously declined since the introduction if cheap foreign workmanship. As well as undercutting the Brits it does homeowners no favours either. Pay cheap pay twice.

Digdongdoo · 23/09/2025 07:22

Autumnlightss · 23/09/2025 07:19

I believe its around £2.5-3k with all that paperwork. And if you fill up something wrong, they decline and they keep the fee.
I can't afford to lose that kind of money, nor I have the money..

It's not that much. It's less than £2k. It's the cheapest part of the entire visa process. You need to make it a priority. (DH did it this year).

ThatCyanCat · 23/09/2025 07:28

Autumnlightss · 23/09/2025 07:19

I believe its around £2.5-3k with all that paperwork. And if you fill up something wrong, they decline and they keep the fee.
I can't afford to lose that kind of money, nor I have the money..

With regards to filling it in correctly, I am certain that Citizens Advice could assist you to ensure it's right. PP says it's less than £2k (closer to what I thought it was). Again, I'm not defending Reform, but while obviously this is a lot of money, I think it's worth prioritising over the next couple of years to get the security you need.

Twiglets1 · 23/09/2025 07:31

ThatCyanCat · 23/09/2025 07:16

How much is it? I'm not for a second defending Farage, the arsehole, but even if Reform get in it won't be for a few years and if it's at all possible to gather the money together in the meantime then it would certainly seem worth it.

You usually pay £1,735 to apply for adult citizenship or £1,576 for children. If you’re applying for citizenship as an adult you’ll also have to pay:

  • £50 to do the Life in the UK Test
  • around £150 if you have to do an English test

https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/immigration/getting-british-citizenship/applying-for-british-citizenship/#:~:text=Check%20how%20much%20it%20costs,to%20do%20an%20English%20test

Applying for British citizenship

How to prepare to apply for British citizenship: the Life in the UK test, English language and residency requirements.

https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/immigration/getting-british-citizenship/applying-for-british-citizenship/

MalinandGo · 23/09/2025 07:35

BundleBoogie · 23/09/2025 07:18

You really really need to read up on this.

from the BBC report:

Reform said the changes would not apply to EU nationals whose settled status is protected under the European Union Withdrawal Agreement - and who make up the majority of benefit claimants by people with ILR.

In July, there were 213,666 people with ILR claiming Universal Credit benefits, according to figures published by the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP), external.
There is no breakdown of different benefits claimed by people with ILR, but about a third of people claiming Universal Credit are in work.
Separate estimates from the Migration Observatory at the University of Oxford put the total population of non-EU citizens with ILR at 430,000 at the end of 2024.

And then later in the day Zia tweeted that they would look to negotiate Settled Status with the EU. That was covered in live reporting through yesterday.

MalinandGo · 23/09/2025 07:36

Smilingintherain · 23/09/2025 07:21

Agree. The standard of workmanship has seriously declined since the introduction if cheap foreign workmanship. As well as undercutting the Brits it does homeowners no favours either. Pay cheap pay twice.

Luckily that’s now over. Read the many threads on MN about the now high cost of labour. Problem sorted.

Toastandbutterand · 23/09/2025 07:37

BundleBoogie · 23/09/2025 07:18

You really really need to read up on this.

from the BBC report:

Reform said the changes would not apply to EU nationals whose settled status is protected under the European Union Withdrawal Agreement - and who make up the majority of benefit claimants by people with ILR.

In July, there were 213,666 people with ILR claiming Universal Credit benefits, according to figures published by the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP), external.
There is no breakdown of different benefits claimed by people with ILR, but about a third of people claiming Universal Credit are in work.
Separate estimates from the Migration Observatory at the University of Oxford put the total population of non-EU citizens with ILR at 430,000 at the end of 2024.

I watched him say it.

MalinandGo · 23/09/2025 07:39

Toastandbutterand · 23/09/2025 07:37

I watched him say it.

And then Reform said more.

EasternStandard · 23/09/2025 07:43

Toastandbutterand · 22/09/2025 23:35

No they're not. Everyone with indefinite leave to remain.

That is the policy. You are wrong.

And pensioners, aka, people who have paid tax are on the list. Everyone with indefinite leave to remain.

It is not ok. It is not right. If you vote for this you are voting to remove people's pensions who have contributed a lifetime of tax.

Do not minimise this.

People need to know what they are voting for.

Do not minimise what was said.

You’re responding to a post which talks about a threshold, there is one from what has been said here. Those over it will stay.

Toastandbutterand · 23/09/2025 07:46

BundleBoogie · 23/09/2025 07:18

You really really need to read up on this.

from the BBC report:

Reform said the changes would not apply to EU nationals whose settled status is protected under the European Union Withdrawal Agreement - and who make up the majority of benefit claimants by people with ILR.

In July, there were 213,666 people with ILR claiming Universal Credit benefits, according to figures published by the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP), external.
There is no breakdown of different benefits claimed by people with ILR, but about a third of people claiming Universal Credit are in work.
Separate estimates from the Migration Observatory at the University of Oxford put the total population of non-EU citizens with ILR at 430,000 at the end of 2024.

Actually what he said was that in January 2026 eu nationals will start being eligible for citizenship based on the 5 year rule.
He wants that stopped and those people deported.

He said the UK would save 234 billion by deporting everyone with ilr.

He said a load of shit. I watched him say it.

I took screenshots because I knew that people would defend him.

Smilingintherain · 23/09/2025 07:47

MalinandGo · 23/09/2025 07:36

Luckily that’s now over. Read the many threads on MN about the now high cost of labour. Problem sorted.

Well yes. Now you pay an extortionate amount for what is often poor workmanship and then you pay again. Finding a decent skilled worker is like entering the lottery but if you hit the jackpot (find one) you hang on to him or her!!!!! Aren't we lucky!

MsJinks · 23/09/2025 07:50

MalinandGo · 23/09/2025 07:39

And then Reform said more.

Had to go back on EU stuff either because it would breach the exit deal, or because he recalled his ex wife is German and partner is French.
But the ‘concerns’ and so ‘policies’ were initially around massive numbers of all migrants getting ILR/settled status in the next 5 years - as many are from the EU and that has policy changed, what is to be done instead? Or was it all just a shout out that we are to remove non Brits, of a particular type, and keep SYL fans happy - umm.

MalinandGo · 23/09/2025 07:51

Smilingintherain · 23/09/2025 07:47

Well yes. Now you pay an extortionate amount for what is often poor workmanship and then you pay again. Finding a decent skilled worker is like entering the lottery but if you hit the jackpot (find one) you hang on to him or her!!!!! Aren't we lucky!

Um, there’s no winning. Now you have the same work people who were apparently priced out by evil immigrants. You’re paying the price they wanted to charge for the work back then presumably? If the work is bad then that’s down to them.

And we’re short of skilled builders now so many of them have left the country? What a shock.

Twiglets1 · 23/09/2025 07:51

He said the UK would save 234 billion by deporting everyone with ilr.

EU nationals don't get ilr they get settled status.

And he didn't say he would deport everyone with ILR he said they would have to apply for 5 year work visas and would no longer be able to claim benefits which would save the UK an estimated 234 billion.

MalinandGo · 23/09/2025 07:53

MsJinks · 23/09/2025 07:50

Had to go back on EU stuff either because it would breach the exit deal, or because he recalled his ex wife is German and partner is French.
But the ‘concerns’ and so ‘policies’ were initially around massive numbers of all migrants getting ILR/settled status in the next 5 years - as many are from the EU and that has policy changed, what is to be done instead? Or was it all just a shout out that we are to remove non Brits, of a particular type, and keep SYL fans happy - umm.

I wasn’t looking to say they’d gone back. They went further. They originally talked about just those with ILR and then chucked people with existing Settled Status on the pile too because, well, why not?

Onegingerhead · 23/09/2025 07:54

Friend 1. Settled status. Can’t get British citizenship because her home country doesn’t allow dual nationality. Firmly in denial. Kids are in school here, don’t speak her language of origin (though they understand it — classic second-gen immigrant situation). She’s got a house, works full-time, earns under £60k.

Friend 2. ILR, came to the UK as a child. No foreign accent (I envy her, lol). Also in denial, but makes the point that if they can strip ILR, they can just as easily strip citizenship — and I agree. She earns under £60k and owns her house outright.

Friend 3. ILR, earns over £60k. Her attitude is basically “wait and see” (which is just denial in a trench coat).

Friend 4. Settled status, not sure she’d even pass the tests for citizenship. Can’t afford the application fee anyway. Earns well under £60k. According to Mumsnet, she should probably “eat pulses only and cancel Netflix” to save up — as if that solves the problem.

None of them are on UC. All of them are working.

Some people in the thread said they’re already planning their “exit strategy.” Out of my four friends, only one even has somewhere realistic to go. The rest don’t.

And this is the part so many conveniently ignore: there will be countless people who have spent 20+ years here, built their entire lives here, who simply have nowhere else to go. And the response to that from some corners? A shrug and: “Tough shit.

NautilusLionfish · 23/09/2025 07:56

Digdongdoo · 23/09/2025 07:22

It's not that much. It's less than £2k. It's the cheapest part of the entire visa process. You need to make it a priority. (DH did it this year).

Did he have to do any tests again like you do when getting ilr? I just find the processes tedious but I need to. Especially as it makes my travels to Europe easier

Toastandbutterand · 23/09/2025 07:58

Onegingerhead · 23/09/2025 07:54

Friend 1. Settled status. Can’t get British citizenship because her home country doesn’t allow dual nationality. Firmly in denial. Kids are in school here, don’t speak her language of origin (though they understand it — classic second-gen immigrant situation). She’s got a house, works full-time, earns under £60k.

Friend 2. ILR, came to the UK as a child. No foreign accent (I envy her, lol). Also in denial, but makes the point that if they can strip ILR, they can just as easily strip citizenship — and I agree. She earns under £60k and owns her house outright.

Friend 3. ILR, earns over £60k. Her attitude is basically “wait and see” (which is just denial in a trench coat).

Friend 4. Settled status, not sure she’d even pass the tests for citizenship. Can’t afford the application fee anyway. Earns well under £60k. According to Mumsnet, she should probably “eat pulses only and cancel Netflix” to save up — as if that solves the problem.

None of them are on UC. All of them are working.

Some people in the thread said they’re already planning their “exit strategy.” Out of my four friends, only one even has somewhere realistic to go. The rest don’t.

And this is the part so many conveniently ignore: there will be countless people who have spent 20+ years here, built their entire lives here, who simply have nowhere else to go. And the response to that from some corners? A shrug and: “Tough shit.

Exactly this.

And posters are still defending reform.

He has shown you who he is.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 23/09/2025 08:00

Whilst I don't actively wish harm on anyone, sometimes I feel it was a bad thing for the UK as a whole that Nigel Farage survived that helicopter crash. He's done so much damage, on a political, economic and human level.

MalinandGo · 23/09/2025 08:00

NautilusLionfish · 23/09/2025 07:56

Did he have to do any tests again like you do when getting ilr? I just find the processes tedious but I need to. Especially as it makes my travels to Europe easier

There’s a test. My friend has just booked it for the fourth time. She has a PhD, a professional job, and is a native English speaker but keeps messing up on the Wars of the Roses for some reason.

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