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Farage promises to deport people with ILR

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Acidburn · 22/09/2025 12:21

Posting in AIBU for traffic.
Nigel Farage stated he would deport anyone with existing indefinite leave to remain. We are talking about millions of people.
This terrifying. If people live here, work here, have kids and mortgages - where are they supposed to go?

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BundleBoogie · 22/09/2025 22:35

SuffolkSun · 22/09/2025 22:28

What is the indigenous culture of the British Isles in your view? Because I see little attempt by Farage or his followers to respect the culture of Wales, or that of the Scottish Highlands or that of Cornwall - where it's most likely to be found.

As for the rest of your post...smacks very much of nonsense.

Cornwall is also suffering from numbers of migrant men hanging around harassing the locals.

It has always been a dumping ground for difficult to place people - councils from up country paying for cheaper accommodation and sending down their drug problems and crime.

Nice of you to worry about us though.

OonaStubbs · 22/09/2025 22:37

If Farage has made it clear he will do it if Reform win the election, and people vote for Reform and they win the election, you can't really argue against it and still believe in democracy.

BeHappySloth · 22/09/2025 22:40

OonaStubbs · 22/09/2025 22:37

If Farage has made it clear he will do it if Reform win the election, and people vote for Reform and they win the election, you can't really argue against it and still believe in democracy.

You're right, I will lose all faith in democracy at that point.

Allisnotlost1 · 22/09/2025 22:47

BundleBoogie · 22/09/2025 22:35

Cornwall is also suffering from numbers of migrant men hanging around harassing the locals.

It has always been a dumping ground for difficult to place people - councils from up country paying for cheaper accommodation and sending down their drug problems and crime.

Nice of you to worry about us though.

Almost a dozen asylum seekers in Cornwall according to the Cornish Times.

www.cornish-times.co.uk/news/almost-a-dozen-asylum-seekers-receiving-government-support-in-cornwall-770536

SuffolkSun · 22/09/2025 22:48

BundleBoogie · 22/09/2025 22:23

OMG, read my post.

Aah, so now, because certain aspects of the service level offered by a hotel that has been advertised as 4 star up until its closure for use by asylum seekers are no longer available, you are claiming that asylum seekers are not being put into hotels??

Absolutely baffled by your inability to understand straightforward English, mate. Is it a problem for you generally, or are you drunk at the moment?

MsJinks · 22/09/2025 22:50

OonaStubbs · 22/09/2025 22:37

If Farage has made it clear he will do it if Reform win the election, and people vote for Reform and they win the election, you can't really argue against it and still believe in democracy.

No of course that’s the case, though I’m not sure it rules out any protesting etc. just because of a democratic vote getting a certain government in power - isn’t stopping protests against labour or their perceived policies is it? Nor should it either. Also it does not mean everyone has to like it or pretend to - though it’s looking that way in Orange land and god forbid we get that here - for democracy’s sake.
But also for democracy to work, and get decent government, it requires all votes to be ‘informed’. Obviously, though all people must be allowed a say, informed or not.
Are all people informed enough is a question that could be debated - but to my mind should not be a factor actually, as in education, status etc, except we should not be lied to for the ballot box, as that deliberately denies information relevant to our vote.
But perhaps these type of threads help with sharing information across the electorate on here, maybe.

BundleBoogie · 22/09/2025 22:58

SuffolkSun · 22/09/2025 22:48

Absolutely baffled by your inability to understand straightforward English, mate. Is it a problem for you generally, or are you drunk at the moment?

You were the one who failed to read my post. 🤷‍♀️

Hilarious that you (and PPs making similar points) have to resort to insults. You clearly have no argument.

sunandfizz · 22/09/2025 23:02

Farage is a truly hateful man. This is yet another of his cynical 'headline grabbers' which will never happen, intended appeal to the bitter, xenophobic dregs of society.

BundleBoogie · 22/09/2025 23:05

Allisnotlost1 · 22/09/2025 22:47

Almost a dozen asylum seekers in Cornwall according to the Cornish Times.

www.cornish-times.co.uk/news/almost-a-dozen-asylum-seekers-receiving-government-support-in-cornwall-770536

As has been discussed extensively ‘migrant men’ are not necessarily asylum seekers.

DuncinToffee · 22/09/2025 23:09

BundleBoogie · 22/09/2025 23:05

As has been discussed extensively ‘migrant men’ are not necessarily asylum seekers.

You are suggesting to deport all male migrants now?

BundleBoogie · 22/09/2025 23:10

Falseknock · 22/09/2025 22:32

It doesn't matter as soon as they closed their doors to the public they were no longer a hotel. I don't think women and children could survive the journey the men decided to take. They risked their lives for a better future for their family.

That is the most bad faith claim I’ve seen. Possibly ever.

So the government are completely deluded and are not spending £2 billion a year on accommodating asylum seekers in hotels??

Do you want to tell them they’re being scammed or shall I?

Honestly. Mind you don’t put your back out with those mental gymnastics.

BundleBoogie · 22/09/2025 23:12

DuncinToffee · 22/09/2025 23:09

You are suggesting to deport all male migrants now?

I think you might be a bit tired and overdone. I suggest some vitamin b and a sleep. You’ll be able to think more clearly in the morning. Night night.

DuncinToffee · 22/09/2025 23:14

BundleBoogie · 22/09/2025 23:12

I think you might be a bit tired and overdone. I suggest some vitamin b and a sleep. You’ll be able to think more clearly in the morning. Night night.

Don't have nightmares about migrant men enjoying 4* hotel experiences

caringcarer · 22/09/2025 23:24

BundleBoogie · 22/09/2025 22:15

Try reading my post again. I clearly didn’t say that. 🙄

Just admit that they are being put into 4* hotels - the facts are out there. Pretending they are not just looks desperate.

The Holiday Inn in Tamworth also now only houses asylum seekers.

ruethewhirl · 22/09/2025 23:25

OonaStubbs · 22/09/2025 22:37

If Farage has made it clear he will do it if Reform win the election, and people vote for Reform and they win the election, you can't really argue against it and still believe in democracy.

The flaw in that argument is the ludicrous amount of people who can’t be arsed turning out to vote. That makes it impossible to state categorically that ‘the people have spoken’ and all the other rhetoric used after elections.

Personally I think it should be made mandatory to either vote at every election or register a ‘none of the above’ vote. No excuses.

Allisnotlost1 · 22/09/2025 23:26

BundleBoogie · 22/09/2025 23:05

As has been discussed extensively ‘migrant men’ are not necessarily asylum seekers.

True enough. There don’t seem to be any verified reports of this harassment so it’s hard to comment. There’s been a lot of claims and counter claims about these things so I tend to take it all with a pinch of salt.

Thedogscollar · 22/09/2025 23:33

This will never happen as Reform will never be in government.
It's the Farage way to grab attention.

Toastandbutterand · 22/09/2025 23:35

BundleBoogie · 22/09/2025 12:53

I’ve just read up on the detail of the proposals from Reform and got past just the bald summary from people with an agenda determined to discredit Reform, they ARE differentiating between contributors and non contributors.

Their intention is to stop people moving here to claim benefits which seems like a sound idea to me.

OP is being rather economic with the details on this.

No they're not. Everyone with indefinite leave to remain.

That is the policy. You are wrong.

And pensioners, aka, people who have paid tax are on the list. Everyone with indefinite leave to remain.

It is not ok. It is not right. If you vote for this you are voting to remove people's pensions who have contributed a lifetime of tax.

Do not minimise this.

People need to know what they are voting for.

Do not minimise what was said.

Falseknock · 22/09/2025 23:37

BundleBoogie · 22/09/2025 23:10

That is the most bad faith claim I’ve seen. Possibly ever.

So the government are completely deluded and are not spending £2 billion a year on accommodating asylum seekers in hotels??

Do you want to tell them they’re being scammed or shall I?

Honestly. Mind you don’t put your back out with those mental gymnastics.

What are you waffling on about. Immigrants are not getting the 4 star experience. As soon as those hotels allowed only immigrants to stay they were no longer a hotel.

What is a hotel "hotel, building that provides lodging, meals, and other services to the traveling public on a commercial basis." Here is what a hotel becomes when asylum seekers live in them "A hotel housing people who have entered a country without authorization is referred to as asylum seeker contingency accommodation or initial accommodation". It's no longer a hotel and it didn't take me long to find that information.

Toastandbutterand · 22/09/2025 23:39

The whole arguement is moot.

He categorically said everyone with indefinite leave to remain will have it revoked.

Farage said that today.

Everything else is posters making stuff up to ease their conscience.

One in ten people.

He wants them all gone.

He has said this, this is what you are voting for. Do not pretend otherwise.

Toastandbutterand · 22/09/2025 23:52

Farage laughed when asked about pensioners. He laughed. 'why are we even paying them?!'

People who have paid their whole lives into the system. He said today, he will deport them. It is not a lie. This is what he said. Anyone who wasn't born here.

You now know what you are voting for and I won't have any more shit. There is no kindly meant. This is what you want. This is what you want to vote for. Own it. You believe people deserve based on where they were born.

There is no other reason
This is what he said today.

This racist crap is what you are voting for.

BlueShiney · 23/09/2025 06:32

SuffolkSun · 22/09/2025 20:41

"Mass unskilled immigration from Europe kickstand the Brexit vote".

Oh good, Schrodinger's migrants are back again. They simultaneously were all unskilled, yet took all the jobs off British plumbers, electricians, bricklayers, carpenters, crop picking, careworkets, Nurses, Doctors...(all skilled work) AND somehow all managed to get around the stringent benefits restrictions to all simultaneously claim benefits.

And after Brexit, the British of course flocked to take back the jobs that were stolen from them. Which is why crops are not rotting in the fields, farmers didn't have to lobby for special agricultural workers visa schemes to be introduced and there isn't an acute shortage of tradespeople, care workers, nurses or doctors.

/s

Oh yes the boring ‘lazy Brits’ argument…The builders I know were undercut in price by cheap labour from Europe who would work for half the price as it was still more money to them than what they’d get back home in EE.

I also knew a hotel cleaner 16 years ago who was sending her money back home to Europe to build her dream house, as the wages were so much higher here than what she could have got at home. She happily told me this and I don’t blame her, I would do the same but that doesn’t mean it was great for the British population and the majority who voted Brexit felt that way.

Get your facts righy about economics and how they work then your post might be worth a read

RasaSayangEh · 23/09/2025 06:33

Toastandbutterand · 22/09/2025 23:39

The whole arguement is moot.

He categorically said everyone with indefinite leave to remain will have it revoked.

Farage said that today.

Everything else is posters making stuff up to ease their conscience.

One in ten people.

He wants them all gone.

He has said this, this is what you are voting for. Do not pretend otherwise.

The only part of your post I disagree with is the bit about the posters who love this policy wanting to ease their conscience.

Nah. They know what they want. They've always known what they want.

I honestly don't see why they bother dancing around with faux-reasonable wordplay. First it was "only illegal migrants" in other threads. Now Dear Leader has legitimised it, they can admit they mean "legal migrants who haven't paid enough" and even within this thread "legal migrants who have insufficient gratitude" and "legal migrants who we shall gladly render illegal on purpose by moving the goalposts retrospectively" and "even the English language is worthwhile collateral damage" and "LOL if said legal migrants built their whole lives here in good faith following all the correct procedures and getting the correct documentation, they should have had a crystal ball."

The mask didn't so much slip as got flung deliriously away and trampled into the mud.

Autumnlightss · 23/09/2025 06:43

Sweetleftfood · 22/09/2025 13:21

He is so populist it's insane and people buy into it. What he wants to do now is whipping up the distrust of Eastern Europeans as he did with Brexit, hinting that too many are on benefits yada yada. I don't think it will happen but it is worrying and does not create a nice climate. I am an EU national and have been here since 97, two kids which unfortunately does not have any EU passport yet. I can't afford to become a citizen as it cost around £2K. Wish I had done it years ago. Not that I want it but I am stuck here, with husband, kids, house, job. It's not just up and leave as some people seem to think after 28 years in a country.

Im the same, in uk since 98. I can't afford British nationality and I can't go back to country of origin as has nothing there( would be homeless there)
Its extremely worrying and I couldn't sleep last night cos of this.
People will vote for him, yesterday I saw a post on Instagram and so many people were saying bring it on, get them out now! Let's kick them all out etc.
I actually couldn't believe it.
And if someone opposed, they were all like vultures on them, saying F off to your country!
Im scared.
I will have nowhere to go...

Autumnlightss · 23/09/2025 06:54

Betty1625 · 22/09/2025 21:34

Im from EU living in UK 🇬🇧 , my kids are British, I have a job, mortgage, lived here for 15+yrs... I had already been worrying as British politics were starting to copy usa, we all know what a state it is now. My fears are being confirmed. My husband is English, he does not want to move to another country. I don't know what i will do if push comes to shove... me and kids move somewhere else? Im honestly scared to see where this is heading.
All of those saying don't worry it won't happen - we said the same about brexit!

I totally agree, im the very same, been in uk since 98. I have nowhere in the origin country to go.
Dh an kids British, I can't afford to pay for British naturalisation.
Very worried.

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