Farage promises to deport people with ILR

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Nigel Farage stated he would deport anyone with existing indefinite leave to remain. We are talking about millions of people.
This terrifying. If people live here, work here, have kids and mortgages - where are they supposed to go?

Sometimes it’s not a case of people buying into the Reform sales pitch, but an attempt to push the other parties into listening, and acting on voter concerns. There may not be intent to vote in Reform, but a kind of threat that if the current mainstream parties don’t change, and listen, then that’s what they’re going to do. Blackmailing in a sense.

Would you personally be happy to work as a carer if the pay was better?

So, failed at Brexit, he wants another go and people are still stupid enough to believe him? And the poison of Reform will not end at immigration. One MP is already having a go at holding Pride, then I presume the party will then start on women. This is the problem with a poisonous party. Be careful what you wish for I say.

It's obvious you became complacent and stopped broadening your mind.

What the fuck does that mean? Indefinite Leave to Remain IS settled status. There is no more settled status than that, other than full citizenship.

Schrodinger's immigrant seems apt. I may borrow that phrase.
If I am skilled, I am taking a job from a Brit.
If I am unskilled, I am a leach and benefit scrounger.
If I bring my family, they are a burden.
If my DH comes alone, he is a dangerous single man. If I come alone, I contribute to slave labour.
If I am young, I will use the schools.
If I am old, i will use the NHS.

I think a lot of people would if the wage increased, but also there was a good entry level, ie you had to have a good education, and attend high level training. I had a relative in a care home and the care provided by the people working there was awful. Being done by people with poor education and inadequate training. The quality of staff in these homes isn’t good, when you consider you’re trusting these people to care for members of society at their most vulnerable.

Farage followers believe that if you get rid of enough brown people then their benefits and UC will be safe and even be entitled to more.

It’s idiotic to believe that and most people under the ILR are on tier two work visas who pay a lot in taxes which guess what ? Fund the very benefits they’re scared of losing.

It is well known that Farage is intending to come after the welfare state and the NHS but he just needs enough of those that ironically rely heavily on that very system to be mislead enough to vote for him.

Ah don’t worry about hotels - those used are mainly non functioning anyway - bought up by folk to make a few quid from the government- not sure why this is an issue, as we are benefiting the rich, Reform’s raisin d’etre. And btw they’re mainly pretty dire, so don’t worry they’re living in luxury.
I’m sure there will be a way for folk/companies to purchase HMOs or similar to continue to make this cash. I am equally sure dire conditions will be maintained.
And the cost on the government purse is 0.3%, 1/3 of a pence out of every pound they have - so not as much of a burden as it sounds on us perfect white taxpayers after all.

There’s always exceptions but Reform
voters have the lowest educational qualifications and lowest skilled occupations of all parties.

So you can comprehend the root cause of why our services around us are failing which is bad management and poor funding but still want to blame migrants … AND support reform who number one priority is to sell the NHS off for a privatised system …

There is a video going around social
media of two councillors from reform one of them is that 19 year old child. I shudder at the thought of them being in power.

They were sold a lie and it will get worse. If those people had the right information they wouldn't have voted. They voted to be poorer it was fine before. Small businesses were able to trade and make money. We was part of Europe and everything it had to offer. There is more people on PIP/DB now for mental health than ever before it's ridiculous and unsustainable.

What posters were saying 10 years ago was they were hoping for cheaper houses, food and clothes that didn't happen. Young people under 40 will unlikely get a pension if people continue to push. We are putting our young people in a vulnerable position.

Indeed.

Beacons of British values.

Lying that "I'm not a xenophobe, I'm only against illegal immigration, I have no problem with legal migrants."

And now the mask has slipped and it's "Screw fair play, honesty and the English language even - I support goalpost-moving-redefining 'indefinite' in order to retrospectively render legal immigrants, illegal."

With an added seasoning of "People who foolishly built their lives, homes and families here for decades in good faith can now be sneered at for not having contributed a goalpost-moving 'enough' and not having a crystal ball."

And just to top it all off "If a sufficient constant-goalpost-moving number of visibly foreign-looking people aren't got rid of, we'll have to have race riots and drag them into prison camps, but honestly we aren't relishing this prospect at all, oh no..."

Never seen a poor care home boss or a rich care home worker. We too have had relative in a home, passed away in June. Cost us £1,650 per week and am pretty sure the staff were min wage.. they were as miserable as sin and the level of care was almost abuse. (we were about to take him out for care at home, look after him ourselves).
Care home owners will not take a cut in profits, it will push the price up even further because too many people use our elderly as cash cows. We need to pay people decent wages for sure but unless the pure greed at top of companies is calmed down the UK will become even more expensive - and people will not like that.

@MsJinks "And btw they’re mainly pretty dire, so don’t worry they’re living in luxury."

Really?

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/2111897/inside-4-star-hilton-hotel-asylum-seekers

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/travel/news/inside-plush-425-a-night-london-migrant-hotel-with-golden-taps-and-giant-buffet/ar-AA1Jh4AZ

https://www.newshub.co.uk/news/2025/07/29/examining-the-truths-behind-migrant-hotel-conditions/

It’s not always the quality of staff but the stretched and difficult conditions as well. They do have to take qualifications and maintain CPD through regular training courses, sometimes put on straight after a night shift but if you don’t go you pay for the missed course/ struggle to keep working.
Let’s be honest though - we are never going to pay carers high wages. Councils/NHS/government or whomever do everything they can to ensure most care is classed as ‘social’ not ‘medical’ - but extends social quite a lot imo - not just food/cleaning or even toiletting but helping to mobilise, not only giving meds but ensuring they are there, ordering and collecting - helping after falls/accidents, providing bed care, managing catheters and oxygen. The list is endless for ‘social’ care - why would we pay wages more for a bit of ‘social’ assistance?
Carer conditions are worthy of their own thread but are often brought up re immigration.
As said though I definitely wouldn’t want Johnny March sorting my care as he gets more cash - neither would he wish to do so but unfortunately we will need him, and more or less force him to when Reform enact their wet dream.

Its no longer a 4 star hotel listen to this from LBC. You sound just like the caller and he was schooled on all his thoughts on immigrants.

Edit: I posted the wrong video

So people who are economically inactive are of no worth then? The elderly, the unemployed and the long term sick and disabled written off?
If we limit the number of people who can work and pay taxes, you will see benefits even more not keeping up with the cost of living, and State Pension will be means tested and even abolished, these things will not be viable anymore if the tax isn’t there to fund them.

now let’s look at their contribution tax wise too as

What? All 3 hotels I posted about are no longer rated 4 star ?

I think you have that a bit wrong.

Don’t you think that’s part of the whole idea? I mean, citizen, are you a contributor or a taker under our glorious Reform nation?

They may sound great - I quite looked forward to visits for some until I learned better - the ones I’ve seen were awful, full of damp, dodgy electrics, paint peeling on dining room ceiling to mention a few things. Families are all crammed into one room as well, not your nice, spacious stay at all.
The gov’t don’t only pay for accommodation but a refurb after as rooms are ripped out to refit with bunks etc - which may, or may not get them back to functioning hotels but I wouldn’t be paid to stay in the ones I visited as they are. Some, such as the Sandpiper in Derbyshire, were already closed as non functional and falling apart - this one was sold to a developer who must have realised reopening for asylum seekers was profitable to him at least.
Don’t forget they chose to house asylum seekers - guess as it made more money rather than being generous.
Anyway, even if they were nicer than I’m saying, do you really grudge that - the rest of their restrictions such as a tenner a week, waiting for decisions for months, unable to restart a life etc surely are enough for you to feel ok they’re not doing that well overall - as that seems to be your bag.

I will find the video because you believe they are getting 4 star treatment. They are not it's a roof for them that's it. It no longer is a 4 star hotel they can't use all the rooms in the hotel. I will find the video.

You are not seriously citing James O Brien as providing true facts??

Look, here’s another one:

from the BBC report on 9th August 2025

Asylum seekers recently arrived during the small hours at the wharf-side four-star Britannia International - 610 rooms, but, according to a former staff member, no longer the "luxury hotel" described in some reports. Rumours that they were coming triggered protests by local residents, many of them office workers in the Canary Wharf business district.

Obviously if you put a load of bored single men in a hotel it won’t be ‘four star’ for long.

They have also used country house hotels and weddings etc have been cancelled at short notice. Maybe read up a bit more?